ok i've searched and searched but i can't find anything talking about how to make the remote work while the car is started.

anyone have any good links or advice on doing this?

 

The remote being the stock keyless entry keyfob? IIRC, my stock one worked just fine while the car was running. What are you trying to do with it, leave the car running with the key in, and locking it?

 

i like that idea i have been wonderin if it is possible, i got a key remade and i can pull the key out of the ignition while the car is running, which is what i do when i go in the store, but to be able to keep it running and lock it would be great!

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-Jared

 

If this is possible, I'd like to do it. That was one of the reasons I bought a remote for my Max. With my truck, I can leave it running and lock the doors with remote (the lights don't flash when the truck is running). I have a quick release on my keychain with my Max key and Ram remote on one end, and my Max remote and Ram key on the other so I can pop it apart and run in a store.

 

I've never tried locking with the stock key fob while the car was running...but I know for sure that it unlocks the car. So worst case, you have the car running....you hit the lock switch on your way out...and then use the key fob to get back in.

If i wanna leave my car running I just use my remote starter...Before I take the key out, I activate it (it doesnt crank since the car is already running), and I leave. When I lock it...I get the added security of the alarm system too. So if anyone were to break into the car while its running...the car would shut down and they'd get nowhere.

 

Doesn't work like that. If you try to lock the doors with the key in the ignition and the doors open, it'll automatically and immediately unlock them. It's intended to keep people from locking their keys in the car.

 

You could install a Turbo Timer for the same effect. It just depends on how long you plan on being in the store?

Damn, and that Z32 (2nd gen 300ZX) is thrashed!!!

 

First off, there must be something wrong with your ignition switch. You shouldn't be able to pull the key out in the on position.

With my remote start, I activate the remote start while the car is running. That takes control of my ignition, which enables me to turn the key off, car continues to run on the remote start, exit and lock the door with my remote. Anybody with an a/m remote start should be able to do this as well.

 

yes pretty much. i got a new toy and she's in the garage so i can work on her, so the Maxima stays outside. In the mornings when i'm walking the dog i like to warm up the car and don't like leaving it unlocked.

I like the maxima's but she's really just a daily driver, i really don't want to spend a bunch of money when i already have a remote that MIGHT be able to do what i want. I just didn't know if it was possible if it's not then i might go that route but i'd pref not. Id rather spend $5 on wiring connectors than $300 on a aftermarket alarm, ya know?

as far the the shrink goes, that's funny ****! lol


EDIT: oh ya and FYI my stock fob doesn't work at all while the car is running. No unlock/lock/trunk or panic alarm.

 

You can get DEI units for under $100, FWIW.

Try locking the car with a key, that should work.

 

no my stock key still works they key is just a little more shaved down than the other so it still moves the tumblers it just isnt held in place by them

and back to the subject guys we know that you can get a remote start we are just wondering if there is a way to disable the auto unlock while they key is in the on position and use the keyfob to reenter the vehicle i guess i will have to go to the civic forum , yea they will know what to do. hehe

-Jared

 

There have been a few times that I have wanted to use my remote to pop my trunk or roll down my two front windows with the car running.

 

haha i just figured out how to roll the windows down with the remote yesterday. I had my hands full and Accidentally held down the unlock, F'n awesome!

 

I tried to do this tonight. No go one the factory fob.

 

It's in the owner's manual.

 

That's the only thing I miss about not having the stock alarm.

Damned Viper alarm needs an extra module to make that work.

 

IIRC im pretty sure this is just plain impossible. Get an aftermarket alarm, and spring for the best stuff because the cheap alarms=stolen car

 

Somewhere in the car is a circuit that disables the remote when the car is on. Surely there is a way to adjust that with a soldering iron. Anyone have the schematics for the ECM?

 

Why do you need a schematic for the ECU? It has nothing to do with the keyless entry system.

In any case, wiring diagrams and pinouts are easy to find. Good luck finding a schematic of it, though.

 

kk so i went to nissan and spoke with a friend today and he informed me that it is something in the ecu i asked him if there was a way to run a 12v constant to something or remove the signal and he didnt recall there being anything that has to do with ignition

so according to a nissan guy of 35 years it has come down to a signal inside the ecu

but what i did find out is that with my setup (the filed down key ) i am able to keep the car running while removing the key and using the key to lock and unlock the vehicle now i know its not as cool as using ur keyfob but o well it works for me

+1 good topic

-Jared

 

Did you ask as a general question, or specific to this car? Can you ask him exactly what it is?

Take a look at the ECU pinouts, I've never seen anything for the keyless entry system. Nothing to the BCM either, IIRC.

 

Seems more hassle than it's worth but I like a challenge.

The BCM probably prevents the doors from being locked because the key is in the ignition. If I wanted to try and bypass this I would cut (open) the Yellow with black stripe or the yellow with blue stripe wire running to the ignition switch. This would make the BCM think that the key is no longer in the ignition switch and it may allow you to lock the doors and turn on the alarm. I'm not certain this will work or what other circuits may be affected. If this works you can install a switch to open the circuit. If it does not work just splice the wire that you cut back together.

 

Few more things.
the car may not start with this wire cut (open). You may need to open the circuit after the car starts.
The car may shut off when you arm the alarm.
Be careful cutting the wire if it touches ground, any metal, you will blow a fuse.

 

 

I meant the BCM, or whatever little black box runs the keyless entry system. To disable the DRLs on my old T/A I had a switch wired to two solder points on the DRL module that made it think the parking brake was applied (thus preventing the lights from coming on) with the brake off and without the Brake light on the cluster. I figured I could do something similar in this situation.

 

well if you guys can figure it out i would be excited

 

The signal I am talking about is called key switch it goes from the ignoition switch to pin 31 of the BCM. It tells the BCM if the key is installed or not. The wire color is yellow with blue stripe, you should be able to get at the wire by the ignition switch. If you want to see the circuit it's on page EL-87 of the FSM. I'm not going to try this on my car because I don't want it to run while locked. If any of you try this let me know how you do. I'm not sure how the alarm system will react to this bypass but I don't think you will cause any harm :-)

 

well i've been busy with my DSM recently so i've not been on but looks like we have an interest in doing this.

Ya if my car came with one i would of read it, but thanks.

you are awesome. Granted like you said the alarm may not like this... and other systems may not either. but if not it's very simple to splice back so i'll give it a shot. Maybe tomorrow as it'll actually be nice out, if not sunday if i end up not working, 16 days in a row sucks i'd really like a day off and hope it'll be sunday.