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Old 08-08-2009, 08:01 PM
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Are 5th gen maxs faster than 4th gen ??

Are they (acceleration + speed) ? assuming them in the same condition ? does it worth to switch ?
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Unless you have a 3.5 or 00vi


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5th gen nope. 5.5 can be. The fastest one is a 4.5 gen.
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Originally Posted by kzoosho
5th gen nope. 5.5 can be. The fastest one is a 4.5 gen.
Whut?
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Originally Posted by kzoosho
5th gen nope. 5.5 can be. The fastest one is a 4.5 gen.
I thought 6.6375 gen is better
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Originally Posted by kzoosho
5th gen nope. 5.5 can be. The fastest one is a 4.5 gen.
Yeah Nissan just HAD to put more weight in the cars, correct torque steer, etc.
Torque steer keeps you awake.

after the 5.5 gen Nissan started to lose the way.... on all models.
A 3.5 in the 4th gen is the way to go, has anyone made a self oil top up for it yet though? Some one should, yup yup.
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5.5gen is faster than 4 gen (both stock)
end of story
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Old 08-08-2009, 10:48 PM
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5.5gen is faster than 4 gen (both stock)
end of story
i'd even go so far as to say a 5th gen (DE-K) is faster than a 4th gen. Considering that my 01 5spd pulls a lot harder up top than my moms 96 5spd.
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4th Gen (95-99) VQ30DE- 190 HP
5th Gen (00-01) VQ30DE-K- 222 HP
5.5 Gen (02-03) VQ35DE- 255 HP
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Old 08-08-2009, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 02RIMax
4th Gen (95-99) VQ30DE- 190 HP
5th Gen (00-01) VQ30DE-K- 222 HP
5.5 Gen (02-03) VQ35DE- 255 HP
Dont forget
5th Gen AE VQ30DE-K- 227HP
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An 00-01 and a 95-99 would actually be about even in a straight up 1/4 mile.

You can't really take advantage of the 00VI on the strip unless you have a way of extending the rev limiter. A 5th gen will eat a 4th on the highway no problem though.
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Originally Posted by Christobal65
Dont forget
5th Gen AE VQ30DE-K- 227HP
Forgot that one thanks.

6th Gen (04-06) 265 HP
6th Gen (07-08) 255 HP
7th Gen (09) 290 HP
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eh

honestly to me it doesn't really matter..

i love the look of our fourth gens.. if i wanted power... i would do 3.5 swap a MEVI, or 00VI and a turbo.. then i wouldn't have to worry about which car is faster.
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Originally Posted by MoncefA33
An 00-01 and a 95-99 would actually be about even in a straight up 1/4 mile.

You can't really take advantage of the 00VI on the strip unless you have a way of extending the rev limiter. A 5th gen will eat a 4th on the highway no problem though.

A 5th Gen weights almost 200 lbs more than a 4th Gen. 0-60 times a 4th gen is .1 seconds faster
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...

FAIL

4th Gen VQ30DE..

5th Gen VQ30DE-K..

hmm, which ones got the plastic Non-Heatabsorbing Intake manifold.. That every single 4th gen owner wants... hmm... still puzzled myself!

unless that is.. the extra weight on the 5th gen is enough to kill all the extra power... No really.. im stumped. *PALMFACE*
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just get a 4th and a 00vi and your set.

Question: Why does the 01 AE put more power?
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Originally Posted by shadyonedeath
just get a 4th and a 00vi and your set.

Question: Why does the 01 AE put more power?
Marketing.

Different muffler, IIRC.
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so again 4.5>5.5>4th>5th there is it more clear?
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Originally Posted by pmohr
Marketing.

Different muffler, IIRC.
Actually that's incorrect.

It's the bodywork and floormats that make all the difference
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FOURTH GEN!!!!
GRRRRRRR!
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Well Imma assume since he didn't put 5.5 gen he really meant the 00-01.... Hes near 150 post so I can only hope he knows the difference....

From MY experience, the 5th gens are faster but not quicker my friend's 00 up in KS always needs time to catch up with me outta corners, again, could always be a driver error, but I would assume those 300lbs need time to get movin.... Especially with only 12 ft/lbs more tq....

But then again I am modded... but so is he... this is really objective and a near useless thread...

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Originally Posted by 02RIMax
4th Gen (95-99) VQ30DE- 190 HP
5th Gen (00-01) VQ30DE-K- 222 HP
5.5 Gen (02-03) VQ35DE- 255 HP
4.5 gen (95-99) VQ35DE- 220ish WHP
Had to add it

And BTW I would of walked my brothers 5.5 gen but my timing is all messed up
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Originally Posted by pmohr
Marketing.

Different muffler, IIRC.
That was the official statement
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Actually that's incorrect.

It's the bodywork and floormats that make all the difference
dont forget about that nifty stock VLSD
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From MY experience, the 5th gens are faster but not quicker my friend's 00 up in KS always needs time to catch up with me outta corners, again, could always be a driver error, but I would assume those 300lbs need time to get movin.... Especially with only 12 ft/lbs more tq....
First its less than 200lbs and second its not that there's 'only 12ftlbs' more torque its that the DE-K has more power under the curve. If the person driving the DE-K isnt shifting at redline every single time then the 4th gen should be slightly faster. However on the same note if both rev to redline the 5th (3.0) should be slightly faster than the 4th gen.
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Originally Posted by mahanddeem
Are they (acceleration + speed) ? assuming them in the same condition ? does it worth to switch ?
Yes, and depends if you want a car payment, if you like the 5th gens better. Many different factors, that only you can decide. If your only goal is speed, then get a 370z and call it a day.
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Originally Posted by maximized98
Yes, and depends if you want a car payment, if you like the 5th gens better. Many different factors, that only you can decide. If your only goal is speed, then get a 370z and call it a day.
I like acceleration and power,I don't want fast car (I don't wanna crack the speed limit)...Most of cars can run 70MPH
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course all this being said if i really wanna go fast i dont get in mah maxima thats what i have the VR-4 for lol
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Originally Posted by Christobal65
course all this being said if i really wanna go fast i dont get in mah maxima thats what i have the VR-4 for lol
Ill run your 3si
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Originally Posted by kzoosho
Ill run your 3si
3si is the message board...3S is the car...and whats your boosted maxima run?
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They are very similar
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Originally Posted by Christobal65
3si is the message board...3S is the car...and whats your boosted maxima run?
Went 12.5@113 last year. Its slow I know but hey its all good.
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My buddys 01 ae walked my friend 99... Saying this from seeing it.
I doubt the extra 5 hp would make a walking difference. Newer motor. Fixed small things here and there.. I'm not surprised. I was pretty impressed after driving 2 5th gens, they imo pulled stronger than 4th. But then again every car has it's limits. Some stock 4th gens have been maintained amazingly so they feel quick as crap compared to others. Anyone try youtube?
just a quick video i saw. Not saying this is always the outcome.. but the 4th gen was obviously modded heavier.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEErs2VtiL4
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This is going to be a disputable debate. Get a stoock on stock with professional drivers on a closed road and call it a day. However people will still dispute that the driver was an idiot. From what i've seen in person, and via videos. The 5th gen is faster. Not hating on 4th gens, love them. An apple is an apple.
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my buddy has an 01 AE 5 speed and he pulled on my other buddys 4th gen 5 speed, both bone stock. but my 5.5 gen walks em both
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Originally Posted by kzoosho
Went 12.5@113 last year. Its slow I know but hey its all good.
Well i think that's faster than my VR-4 since its pretty much stock lol
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Unless the cars r brand new and stock most of these comparisons r useless


.... or both boosted and modded to the max. Kinda hard to do today with new models not being availibe.
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Alot can vary, especially drivers, tires, etc.

Id say an lsd 4th gen should be 1/4 faster than a non lsd 5th gen w 00vi (not an upgrade that is worth the hype imo , for the $$)

but i think its all been said above with the >*>*>*> statement
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This is what makes bench racing so much fun everyone tries to change the 'what if' so their car can win. lol
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mines is
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mines is
you do know your car is purple right
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