MY question is, what would it take for the maxima to be faster than the civic si.. thanks in advance..

 

Put this in your gas tank

 

win /thread

 

A tune-up. The Civic Si is accepted as running 15.17 stock, and several members on here have beaten that with stock 4th gen Maximas. I've only run mid-15's, but that was with a bad knock sensor, and I had problems with wheel hop before I switched to urethane engine mounts. I'd say ES mounts and some good tires (not even drag slicks), assuming all else is working correctly, and any manual trans Maxima since 3rd gen can outrun a Civic Si all day.

 

but theres one problem, i have an auto..

 

lol, im not a fan of nos..

 

Your question is pretty vague.. faster from a roll? from a dig? drifting in reverse around Laguna Seca?

If youre auto its gonna be tough unless you can brake torque and launch like a champ. Honda's excel at higher rpms where we, unless VI'd, fall on our face. Y-pipe should help, VI would be even better...

Unfortunately youre not a NOS fan..

 

another negative member

 

ive driven an 08 SI and i really was not impressed but i do not like hondas anyways, i beat the pee out of it. my cousin had a 99 se 5spd with a few mods short ram intake, full exhaust, the car was well maintained and he on a (closed coarse) waxed the SI on multiple runs obv drivers and conditions and such are a huge factor but with ur auto idk how much of a dissadvantage ull have. that was just my experience with the 2 cars. dont qoute me but i believe the SI's are 197hp stock? which is only what 7 more than the 4th gens? and i think the max was lighter as well i believe that it wouldnt take much to beat the honda. GL bro u better keep us updated!

 

Negative?? I was being sarcastic. If someone asks a vague/silly question, what kind of response do you expect to get???

 

@ KCIR, SI's w/ I/H/E were running 15.7's, while I was running 15.4's with my I/Y/Cat.

I'd say a stock auto vs. a stock SI would be close. Really depends on your first 1/8th, after that it's just a matter of time before the SI catches you.

 

I myself had an 07 Si. I'm pretty sure my fully bolt on 99 SE-l was a bit faster than my stock Si. After doing tons of research while I owned the Si (www.8thcivic.com) I found that a lot of guys had header-catback, CAI, IM & TB spacer kit as well as a hondata reflash and light wheels they were able to break the 13's.

But the Si outperforms the maxima in just about every way.

 

I'd probably go ahead and that's because the Maxima was not designed to compete with a future generation civic It was designed to go against 540i, Legend,ES300, and C280

 

is it a 2dr or 4dr? and i dont think the civic weighs more than a 4th gen. i have an auto as well and it ran a 15.9 with crappy tires. full exhaust (header to muffler) and a CAI you should be able to pull the Si enough to say you beat an Si.
but by the time you get those mods the owner of the Si might have gotten some mods and then your screwed...

 

I outperformed that SI-Sedan, RSX-S (it looked stock, didn't talk to the guy), @ Import Faceoff.

Unless you mean potential... Potential wise, the SI has WAY more potential than a 3.0L Maxima.

Honestly, I would still take a maxima over any SI, because I'm still into straight line stuff, I haven't ventured into the AutoX world yet (in where I'd prolly fall in love w/ the SI).

 

How does a 4 cylinder Honda motor have more potential than a 6 cylinder? Especially since both are FWD so neither are going to be great sports cars handling wise.

 

I wouldn't dare to get near a SI because they have vtech. But if you have Nismo stickers then it's a whole different story.

 

Are you basing potential on amout of cylinders??? Have you seen the potential of a 4g63 motor?

 

Have you seen the potential of a honda k series?

 

i have, not quite what the B series was but nonetheless..

I was making sure you werent basing that upon merely cylinders as it sounded.

 

B series is a joke as well. Seriously. $/hp it isnt worth it.

 

id respectfully disagree. tuning and parts for hondas is so ridiculously cheap in comparison to the maxima due to popularity. Ive had hondas, I prefer my maxima due to its uniqueness and mid-range powerband.

 

The SI is quite amazing for a FWD car around corners, I heard the sedan gets even better, where as I've only driven the coupe.

What I meant for potential is, the SI has WAY more aftermarket support than our maximas do. probably on paper the VQ30DE does out do the K20A2/Z3, but as for now in the real world, the SI just has more potential than a Maxima.

Even though after saying that, there has yet to be a N/A SI that can get me.

 

Go race. Find out.

 

I had a 99 Si it was a fun car no doubt but that motor was not a good motor to either build (too expensive) or turbo. B18 and the various b20 frankenmotors arent much better. The Dart b series block is nice though.

 

We're talking about a completely different SI, EM1 and EP3 are just different animals in my book.

 

Guy above talked about B series engines. I was responding to him. I'm out, not gonna start some massive flame war for no reason .

 

nismo ftw

 

Gotcha

To the OP, just goto the track and find out, you never know what curve ***** life throws at you. Hell I beat a R34, my life = complete.

 

lame azz thread....

 

this is the 4th gen forum, there is 1 quality thread in every 2389572490578249038934859.

 

thats why i never come in here

 

Today may be the first day Ive posted in here in years. And its bc im bored.

QFT.

 

And if they have a type R sticker, none of us stand a chance. Those things add like 50 fwhp.

 

lawls

 

EP3 and FG2/FA5 are different too

anyways, take it to the track and see what your maxima has against the Si. you never know, the owner of the Si might have a bad reaction, miss a gear, and have crappy tires and you might beat him...

 

coupe or 4dr...ive beaten the coupe and my max is stock

 

how the hell did u beat an r34?? lol

 

I think the Si will get a 4th gen from a dig, these cars are not quick off the line, anything thats rolling its game over for the Si. I was suppose to run my friend that has an Si with I/H/E but he was too busy saying that his car would walk me blah blah blah, i got sick of him and told him forget it, once he heard i ran neck and neck with my friends S2k his views have changed quite a bit(the S2geezy came out on top but it took it awhile).

but honestly a USIM'd 4th gen will have a stronger top end then and pre K-pro K series bolt-on or not, i have ran into quite a few and have the same result every time. With that said my auto could not get a RSX type-S, My STOCK MT with heavy 18s could pull a car on one every gear.

 

if he's using this your screwed.