CAI is awesome
12-04-2001, 06:31 AM
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CAI is awesome
Just put in a Catman CAI on my 95 SEA and can feel and hear a big difference from when I had a JWT Pop charger. This is a great performance mod when combined with my exhaust mods. It's relatively quiet under normal operating conditions, then when you gun it and it gets above 4K RPM, look out - the car sounds (loud) and feels great.
Think I'll be putting my G Force ECU back in and see the difference now. I now get a chirp from the front tires when I gun it doing around 15 MPH.
NE1 left in the stock air ram in the front of the hood to keep things cooler under the hood or do most people take it out?
Think I'll be putting my G Force ECU back in and see the difference now. I now get a chirp from the front tires when I gun it doing around 15 MPH.
NE1 left in the stock air ram in the front of the hood to keep things cooler under the hood or do most people take it out?
12-04-2001, 09:05 AM
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Re: CAI is awesome
Originally posted by plrod Black 95 SE
Just put in a Catman CAI on my 95 SEA and can feel and hear a big difference from when I had a JWT Pop charger. This is a great performance mod when combined with my exhaust mods. It's relatively quiet under normal operating conditions, then when you gun it and it gets above 4K RPM, look out - the car sounds (loud) and feels great.
Think I'll be putting my G Force ECU back in and see the difference now. I now get a chirp from the front tires when I gun it doing around 15 MPH.
NE1 left in the stock air ram in the front of the hood to keep things cooler under the hood or do most people take it out?
Just put in a Catman CAI on my 95 SEA and can feel and hear a big difference from when I had a JWT Pop charger. This is a great performance mod when combined with my exhaust mods. It's relatively quiet under normal operating conditions, then when you gun it and it gets above 4K RPM, look out - the car sounds (loud) and feels great.
Think I'll be putting my G Force ECU back in and see the difference now. I now get a chirp from the front tires when I gun it doing around 15 MPH.
NE1 left in the stock air ram in the front of the hood to keep things cooler under the hood or do most people take it out?
12-04-2001, 12:52 PM
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Re: Re: CAI is awesome
Originally posted by breaux124
The CAI lets people know your car isn't stock. The downside is that you'll be reving your engine more to hit higher RPMs so that you can hear it... there goes your gas mileage
The CAI lets people know your car isn't stock. The downside is that you'll be reving your engine more to hit higher RPMs so that you can hear it... there goes your gas mileage
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12-04-2001, 01:06 PM
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Re: Re: Re: CAI is awesome
Originally posted by TintDaMax
Dood, the growl is HELLA worth the extra gas!
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Dood, the growl is HELLA worth the extra gas!
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SuDZ
12-04-2001, 02:16 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: CAI is awesome
Originally posted by SuDZ
How much louder we talking? I am intrested in this eventually but curious how much louder it makes you. Right now I am just running a cone intake.
SuDZ
How much louder we talking? I am intrested in this eventually but curious how much louder it makes you. Right now I am just running a cone intake.
SuDZ
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12-04-2001, 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by Tai Mai Shu
Welcome to the culb of CAI, Sudzs the sound of the CAI strikes fear in the core of all rustangs, and honda boy's, belive me, cause no one wants to race anymore...
Welcome to the culb of CAI, Sudzs the sound of the CAI strikes fear in the core of all rustangs, and honda boy's, belive me, cause no one wants to race anymore...
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12-04-2001, 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by TintDaMax
You think its cause it hurts thier ears? No but seriously, nobody wants to race after they hear it! It sucks
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You think its cause it hurts thier ears? No but seriously, nobody wants to race after they hear it! It sucks
DPW
"Oh crap!... they might have an extra 7 or 8 horsepower in that thing! Watch out!"
I'm doubting it.
Now when I hear the jet-engine whine of a supercharger, or the hissing sound of a turbo accompanied with the blowoff valves tell-tale sound... then I'm prolly gonna be a little intimidated.
But why would people be scared of CAI?
12-04-2001, 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by Threxx
Now when I hear the jet-engine whine of a supercharger, or the hissing sound of a turbo accompanied with the blowoff valves tell-tale sound... then I'm prolly gonna be a little intimidated.
But why would people be scared of CAI?
Now when I hear the jet-engine whine of a supercharger, or the hissing sound of a turbo accompanied with the blowoff valves tell-tale sound... then I'm prolly gonna be a little intimidated.
But why would people be scared of CAI?
p****.
12-04-2001, 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by TintDaMax
You think its cause it hurts thier ears? No but seriously, nobody wants to race after they hear it! It sucks
DPW
You think its cause it hurts thier ears? No but seriously, nobody wants to race after they hear it! It sucks
DPW
12-04-2001, 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by Threxx
Why would people be afraid when they hear a loud N/A intake?
"Oh crap!... they might have an extra 7 or 8 horsepower in that thing! Watch out!"
I'm doubting it.
Now when I hear the jet-engine whine of a supercharger, or the hissing sound of a turbo accompanied with the blowoff valves tell-tale sound... then I'm prolly gonna be a little intimidated.
But why would people be scared of CAI?
Why would people be afraid when they hear a loud N/A intake?
"Oh crap!... they might have an extra 7 or 8 horsepower in that thing! Watch out!"
I'm doubting it.
Now when I hear the jet-engine whine of a supercharger, or the hissing sound of a turbo accompanied with the blowoff valves tell-tale sound... then I'm prolly gonna be a little intimidated.
But why would people be scared of CAI?
12-04-2001, 03:22 PM
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Re: CAI is awesome
Originally posted by plrod Black 95 SE
Just put in a Catman CAI on my 95 SEA and can feel and hear a big difference from when I had a JWT Pop charger. This is a great performance mod when combined with my exhaust mods. It's relatively quiet under normal operating conditions, then when you gun it and it gets above 4K RPM, look out - the car sounds (loud) and feels great.
Think I'll be putting my G Force ECU back in and see the difference now. I now get a chirp from the front tires when I gun it doing around 15 MPH.
NE1 left in the stock air ram in the front of the hood to keep things cooler under the hood or do most people take it out?
Just put in a Catman CAI on my 95 SEA and can feel and hear a big difference from when I had a JWT Pop charger. This is a great performance mod when combined with my exhaust mods. It's relatively quiet under normal operating conditions, then when you gun it and it gets above 4K RPM, look out - the car sounds (loud) and feels great.
Think I'll be putting my G Force ECU back in and see the difference now. I now get a chirp from the front tires when I gun it doing around 15 MPH.
NE1 left in the stock air ram in the front of the hood to keep things cooler under the hood or do most people take it out?
12-04-2001, 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by Threxx
Why would people be afraid when they hear a loud N/A intake?
"Oh crap!... they might have an extra 7 or 8 horsepower in that thing! Watch out!"
I'm doubting it.
Now when I hear the jet-engine whine of a supercharger, or the hissing sound of a turbo accompanied with the blowoff valves tell-tale sound... then I'm prolly gonna be a little intimidated.
But why would people be scared of CAI?
Why would people be afraid when they hear a loud N/A intake?
"Oh crap!... they might have an extra 7 or 8 horsepower in that thing! Watch out!"
I'm doubting it.
Now when I hear the jet-engine whine of a supercharger, or the hissing sound of a turbo accompanied with the blowoff valves tell-tale sound... then I'm prolly gonna be a little intimidated.
But why would people be scared of CAI?
DPW
12-04-2001, 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by Threxx
Why would people be afraid when they hear a loud N/A intake?
"Oh crap!... they might have an extra 7 or 8 horsepower in that thing! Watch out!"
I'm doubting it.
Now when I hear the jet-engine whine of a supercharger, or the hissing sound of a turbo accompanied with the blowoff valves tell-tale sound... then I'm prolly gonna be a little intimidated.
But why would people be scared of CAI?
Why would people be afraid when they hear a loud N/A intake?
"Oh crap!... they might have an extra 7 or 8 horsepower in that thing! Watch out!"
I'm doubting it.
Now when I hear the jet-engine whine of a supercharger, or the hissing sound of a turbo accompanied with the blowoff valves tell-tale sound... then I'm prolly gonna be a little intimidated.
But why would people be scared of CAI?
12-04-2001, 05:33 PM
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Re: Re: CAI is awesome
Originally posted by Craig Mack
When you switched from POP to CAI, did you notice an INCREASE in low end power ?? I hate the pop lag, and want to switch to CAI if it gives me back my "off the line" power.
When you switched from POP to CAI, did you notice an INCREASE in low end power ?? I hate the pop lag, and want to switch to CAI if it gives me back my "off the line" power.
If you're going from POP to CAI, keep the velocity stack and install it in the wheel well. I wish I'd done that.
Know what you mean about cutting into the car but it's not so bad and the location of the hole is pretty much covered up by the battery tray and battery if you remove it and sell the car stock. I struggled with this aspect of this mod for awhile and finally just decided to CUT the b*tch. I'm very happy I did!
12-04-2001, 05:41 PM
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I want to be the odd man out and say that I'm keeping my JWT HAI.
Afterall, it was a car with a HAI, y-pipe and catback that ran a 14.2 in the 1/4...
Me <--- monkey
This thread <--- gears
This post <--- the wrench that the monkey throws
Afterall, it was a car with a HAI, y-pipe and catback that ran a 14.2 in the 1/4...
Me <--- monkey
This thread <--- gears
This post <--- the wrench that the monkey throws
12-04-2001, 06:22 PM
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I've got a ghetto version of the CAI. I ordered to PR one from Greg, but i didn't have the circle drill when it came. so before i would be taking everything apart and actually drilling, i decided to do a dry run. so i got the writeup from maximadriver.com and started. in the end, the CAI upper piece is connected to the throttle body, the MAF is connected to the upper piece, and the stock air box (minus the air scoop) is connected to the MAF. I get the growl mostly only when i'm accelerating a from 2.5-4k rpm and from 5.5-6k rpm. I'ts pretty cool considering i only took out the big boxy thing that those three hoses connect to,the air scoop, and the mysterious black box that runs off of the scoop that goes to absolutely nothing (what is that by the way?) anyways, i ought to post pics of the setup, it's pretty funny just thinking about it, if there was ever a half-assed job done, this is it
12-04-2001, 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by Xtreme5053
the mysterious black box that runs off of the scoop that goes to absolutely nothing (what is that by the way?) anyways, i ought to post pics of the setup, it's pretty funny just thinking about it, if there was ever a half-assed job done, this is it
the mysterious black box that runs off of the scoop that goes to absolutely nothing (what is that by the way?) anyways, i ought to post pics of the setup, it's pretty funny just thinking about it, if there was ever a half-assed job done, this is it
12-04-2001, 09:38 PM
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CAI making a maxima sound like a SBC or 302??
I'll believe it when I see it. The closest thing to the sound of one of those motors that I have seen in a V6 is the 4.3L that GM produces. And that's probably because the 4.3 IS the 350 SBC with two missing cylinders. Even then, past 2500rpm or so it starts sounding a lot different.
I'm hard pressed to believe that a japanese V6 with at least half the displacement of most SBCs could sound anything close to the same. Do you mean to say that it sounds "deep" or "rumbly" or just not the same as a 4-cylinder? I would believe that.
Could one of y'all send me a sound clip of one of these maximas that sounds like a V8 so I can hear for myself.
I'll believe it when I see it. The closest thing to the sound of one of those motors that I have seen in a V6 is the 4.3L that GM produces. And that's probably because the 4.3 IS the 350 SBC with two missing cylinders. Even then, past 2500rpm or so it starts sounding a lot different.
I'm hard pressed to believe that a japanese V6 with at least half the displacement of most SBCs could sound anything close to the same. Do you mean to say that it sounds "deep" or "rumbly" or just not the same as a 4-cylinder? I would believe that.
Could one of y'all send me a sound clip of one of these maximas that sounds like a V8 so I can hear for myself.
12-04-2001, 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by Threxx
CAI making a maxima sound like a SBC or 302??
I'll believe it when I see it. The closest thing to the sound of one of those motors that I have seen in a V6 is the 4.3L that GM produces. And that's probably because the 4.3 IS the 350 SBC with two missing cylinders. Even then, past 2500rpm or so it starts sounding a lot different.
I'm hard pressed to believe that a japanese V6 with at least half the displacement of most SBCs could sound anything close to the same. Do you mean to say that it sounds "deep" or "rumbly" or just not the same as a 4-cylinder? I would believe that.
Could one of y'all send me a sound clip of one of these maximas that sounds like a V8 so I can hear for myself.
CAI making a maxima sound like a SBC or 302??
I'll believe it when I see it. The closest thing to the sound of one of those motors that I have seen in a V6 is the 4.3L that GM produces. And that's probably because the 4.3 IS the 350 SBC with two missing cylinders. Even then, past 2500rpm or so it starts sounding a lot different.
I'm hard pressed to believe that a japanese V6 with at least half the displacement of most SBCs could sound anything close to the same. Do you mean to say that it sounds "deep" or "rumbly" or just not the same as a 4-cylinder? I would believe that.
Could one of y'all send me a sound clip of one of these maximas that sounds like a V8 so I can hear for myself.
DPW
12-05-2001, 02:40 AM
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Originally posted by KrZyMaX
*sigh* i can't wait to get a CAI. if i order from Greg, how long will i have to wait before it reaches my doorstep? my paycheck comes next friday! i'm so hyped!
grasshoppah
*sigh* i can't wait to get a CAI. if i order from Greg, how long will i have to wait before it reaches my doorstep? my paycheck comes next friday! i'm so hyped!
grasshoppah
12-05-2001, 07:57 AM
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I love it when I read "my Maxima sounds like a Mustang" when talking about intakes or exhausts. Sorry guys, NOTHING sounds quite like a Mustang. I don't think there's a more beautiful sound than a well tuned 5.0/4.6 Mustang. Maybe everyone's mistaking the loud for Mustang loud. The V8 firing order is what gives the cool sound. The Maxima is a V6 and doesn't have a good sounding firing order. Some Max exhausts might sound deep at first, but there's no mistaking it's all import small displacement once the rpms rise.
Since the beginning of time there has always been the POP vs CAI debate. I've got the HKS POP intake and I love it. All resonators have been removed and it sounds EXACTLY like the CAI. The large resonator between the MAF and throttle body is what's responsible for the difference in sound. I'm still running the lower stock air box and piping plus I have piping feeding the airbox from the bumper where the foglight use to be. I've also made a heatshield which shields the filter housing from much of the radient heat. Either intake is good and will perform nearly the same. I've made 176fwhp and 194fwtq with a y-pipe, POP, and B-pipe. I don't think I'm suffering from a lack of torque. My Max is making 95% of it's available torque from 2300-4900rpms. That's pretty flat if you ask me. Just my opinion though. BTW, the CAI does look better.
Dave
Since the beginning of time there has always been the POP vs CAI debate. I've got the HKS POP intake and I love it. All resonators have been removed and it sounds EXACTLY like the CAI. The large resonator between the MAF and throttle body is what's responsible for the difference in sound. I'm still running the lower stock air box and piping plus I have piping feeding the airbox from the bumper where the foglight use to be. I've also made a heatshield which shields the filter housing from much of the radient heat. Either intake is good and will perform nearly the same. I've made 176fwhp and 194fwtq with a y-pipe, POP, and B-pipe. I don't think I'm suffering from a lack of torque. My Max is making 95% of it's available torque from 2300-4900rpms. That's pretty flat if you ask me. Just my opinion though. BTW, the CAI does look better.
Dave
12-05-2001, 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by cmcknite
How does a CAI sound with stock muffer and Cattman Y-pipe? Anybody know. I want to get better performance, but not be loud. I drive a maxima, not a mustang.
How does a CAI sound with stock muffer and Cattman Y-pipe? Anybody know. I want to get better performance, but not be loud. I drive a maxima, not a mustang.
12-05-2001, 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by Threxx
CAI making a maxima sound like a SBC or 302??
I'll believe it when I see it. The closest thing to the sound of one of those motors that I have seen in a V6 is the 4.3L that GM produces. And that's probably because the 4.3 IS the 350 SBC with two missing cylinders. Even then, past 2500rpm or so it starts sounding a lot different.
I'm hard pressed to believe that a japanese V6 with at least half the displacement of most SBCs could sound anything close to the same. Do you mean to say that it sounds "deep" or "rumbly" or just not the same as a 4-cylinder? I would believe that.
Could one of y'all send me a sound clip of one of these maximas that sounds like a V8 so I can hear for myself.
CAI making a maxima sound like a SBC or 302??
I'll believe it when I see it. The closest thing to the sound of one of those motors that I have seen in a V6 is the 4.3L that GM produces. And that's probably because the 4.3 IS the 350 SBC with two missing cylinders. Even then, past 2500rpm or so it starts sounding a lot different.
I'm hard pressed to believe that a japanese V6 with at least half the displacement of most SBCs could sound anything close to the same. Do you mean to say that it sounds "deep" or "rumbly" or just not the same as a 4-cylinder? I would believe that.
Could one of y'all send me a sound clip of one of these maximas that sounds like a V8 so I can hear for myself.
Why are you on a Maxima site, and then start dising it? WTF, what do you have agian?
12-06-2001, 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by Xtreme5053
I've got a ghetto version of the CAI. I ordered to PR one from Greg, but i didn't have the circle drill when it came. so before i would be taking everything apart and actually drilling, i decided to do a dry run. so i got the writeup from maximadriver.com and started. in the end, the CAI upper piece is connected to the throttle body, the MAF is connected to the upper piece, and the stock air box (minus the air scoop) is connected to the MAF. I get the growl mostly only when i'm accelerating a from 2.5-4k rpm and from 5.5-6k rpm. I'ts pretty cool considering i only took out the big boxy thing that those three hoses connect to,the air scoop, and the mysterious black box that runs off of the scoop that goes to absolutely nothing (what is that by the way?) anyways, i ought to post pics of the setup, it's pretty funny just thinking about it, if there was ever a half-assed job done, this is it
I've got a ghetto version of the CAI. I ordered to PR one from Greg, but i didn't have the circle drill when it came. so before i would be taking everything apart and actually drilling, i decided to do a dry run. so i got the writeup from maximadriver.com and started. in the end, the CAI upper piece is connected to the throttle body, the MAF is connected to the upper piece, and the stock air box (minus the air scoop) is connected to the MAF. I get the growl mostly only when i'm accelerating a from 2.5-4k rpm and from 5.5-6k rpm. I'ts pretty cool considering i only took out the big boxy thing that those three hoses connect to,the air scoop, and the mysterious black box that runs off of the scoop that goes to absolutely nothing (what is that by the way?) anyways, i ought to post pics of the setup, it's pretty funny just thinking about it, if there was ever a half-assed job done, this is it
12-06-2001, 05:17 PM
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Re: CAI
Originally posted by BluFlame
Any pics yet? I'm thinking about doing the same.
Any pics yet? I'm thinking about doing the same.
