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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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Fast? these things have like 170ish horse power on a 5ooolb body not to mention its fwd...
Look for I30s if you want luxury for cheap..I paid 1200 for my 4th gen I30...


Parts are cheap...thats a pro

try 190hp and 3200lbs
there is no 4th gen I30 it only lasted 2 gens. If you are referring to the 96-99 I30 as a 4th gen I30, at least you are close.
You can normally buy an I30 for less than the equivalent maxima. I bought my 96 I30 for $400 several years ago, and my 98 I30t last year for $1650.
Old Dec 28, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar

try 190hp and 3200lbs
there is no 4th gen I30 it only lasted 2 gens. If you are referring to the 96-99 I30 as a 4th gen I30, at least you are close.
You can normally buy an I30 for less than the equivalent maxima. I bought my 96 I30 for $400 several years ago, and my 98 I30t last year for $1650.
WOW 190hp be careful you may need a chute on the 1/4..jk jk
still the #'s are unimpressive, (unmoded). And yes i know there is no actual 4th gen I3o, Its just the same car as the 4th gen max.

And im talking GVWR weight which is 4237lbs.....

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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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WOW 190hp be careful you may need a chute on the 1/4..jk jk
still the #'s are unimpressive, (unmoded). And yes i know there is no actual 4th gen I3o, Its just the same car as the 4th gen max.

And im talking GVWR weight which is 4237lbs.....
GVWR is maximum the car can weigh fully loaded with fuel, people, luggage, etc.. it is not what the car weighs.
Now STFU until you have something useful to add, there is enough ignorance here to begin with
Old Dec 28, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
GVWR is maximum the car can weigh fully loaded with fuel, people, luggage, etc.. it is not what the car weighs.
Now STFU until you have something useful to add, there is enough ignorance here to begin with
yea i know what it means, do you drive with no gas? or any fuilds, no friends? no spare tire?....take it easy man did santa not give you what you wanted for xmas? keep it peaceful
Old Dec 28, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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yea i know what it means, do you drive with no gas? or any fuilds, no friends? no spare tire?....take it easy man did santa not give you what you wanted for xmas? keep it peaceful
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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TomZ
WOW 190hp be careful you may need a chute on the 1/4..jk jk
still the #'s are unimpressive, (unmoded). And yes i know there is no actual 4th gen I3o, Its just the same car as the 4th gen max.

And im talking GVWR weight which is 4237lbs.....
Well since that is sooo unimpressive, why dont you enlighten us since you seem SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO informed on 4th gen Maxima/1st gen i30 specifications.

Since 170hp is so impressive, why don't you point us towards a more reliable, efficient, and fairly quick car in the same category as well as price. Perhaps 94-97 Accord? maybe a Camry? screw the camry, ES300 FTMFW

Originally Posted by internetautomar
GVWR is maximum the car can weigh fully loaded with fuel, people, luggage, etc.. it is not what the car weighs.
Now STFU until you have something useful to add, there is enough ignorance here to begin with
Well said + Nuff said
Old Dec 28, 2009 | 02:46 PM
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Well since that is sooo unimpressive, why dont you enlighten us since you seem SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO informed on 4th gen Maxima/1st gen i30 specifications.

Since 170hp is so impressive, why don't you point us towards a more reliable, efficient, and fairly quick car in the same category as well as price. Perhaps 94-97 Accord? maybe a Camry? screw the camry, ES300 FTMFW



Well said + Nuff said
I read up on cars i own, and im not saying its a bad car at all, I bought one as a beater...Im just saying dont call a mule a race horse...i have no problem with the max's...but i own new cars so i cant tell you a comparison to a 4th gen especially japanese for that matter...

Yall are some sensitive kids....
Old Dec 28, 2009 | 02:47 PM
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Dude go for it, an almost 14 year old car with 32xxx miles on it, you'd be crazy not to buy it!
The most major work I've had to do on mine was to reseal the head gasket, but was at 170k miles.

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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TomZ
I read up on cars i own, and im not saying its a bad car at all, I bought one as a beater...Im just saying dont call a mule a race horse...i have no problem with the max's...but i own new cars so i cant tell you a comparison to a 4th gen especially japanese for that matter...

Yall are some sensitive kids....
Well, personally I just hate it when someone sounds like their dissing something they don't even know, especially you sir which apparently just started throwing numbers out of your ***. Not sensitive, ignorance just really bothers me. You're right though, its not a race horse, I don't know why some people on here say it is.

Must be nice to own new cars, so what do you drive on the weekends?
Old Dec 28, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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Must be nice to own new cars, so what do you drive on the weekends?

a 07 jaguar convertible, thats what happens when you go to college...

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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ColombianMax
Well, personally I just hate it when someone sounds like their dissing something they don't even know, especially you sir which apparently just started throwing numbers out of your ***. Not sensitive, ignorance just really bothers me. You're right though, its not a race horse, I don't know why some people on here say it is.

Must be nice to own new cars, so what do you drive on the weekends?
Your so full of it...I threw an estimation(not "dissing") whatever the hell that means... which in the end still ='s my point which you even agreed on,its not a fast car ..dear lord get over your self man, its the internet...

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Old Dec 28, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TomZ
a 07 jaguar convertible, thats what happens when you go to college...
lawlz... thank God I'm almost done with it

Originally Posted by TomZ
Your so full of it...I throw an estimation..dear lord get over your self man, its the internet...
Ridiculously full of it?? or just a little full of it?
Old Dec 28, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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My Ecu just crashed and began stalling the the auto tranny, $600+ to fix on my 95. If I could get any other car tho, it would be another 4th gen.... =)
Old Dec 28, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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the ones saying rusty radiator supports live in areas where it snows. i wouldnt consider that as an issue since its the salt or whatever the city uses for the road when it snows.

issue on mine are; rear tranny mount, rear struts, radiator fan's and both cv axles. not realy major but are probably problems you might encounter. OH and by the way, thats with 230k...
Old Dec 28, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TomZ
WOW 190hp be careful you may need a chute on the 1/4..jk jk
still the #'s are unimpressive, (unmoded). And yes i know there is no actual 4th gen I3o, Its just the same car as the 4th gen max.

And im talking GVWR weight which is 4237lbs.....

hmm...i thought these car were decently quick.
i've seen a couple of em outrun or give a gm 3800 s/c a run for it's money.
and thats 240 hp/ 280lbs tq vs. 190hp/ 205lbs tq.


as for the carfax i agree on checking it.
my $500 maxima with a bad tranny showed 114k miles.
me a and a couple people thought they really beat the crap out of this car.
come to find out the car has 170k (174k now) on the odometer.

they're good car's.
some just need a lil tlc.
Old Dec 28, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 1992maximase30
hmm...i thought these car were decently quick.
i've seen a couple of em outrun or give a gm 3800 s/c a run for it's money.
and thats 240 hp/ 280lbs tq vs. 190hp/ 205lbs tq.
was the gm 3800 racing ? or you guys just call passing by a vehicle "outrun" ?
Old Dec 28, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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uhh..no they were racing.
i was'nt racing i was behind them when this happened.
and you can always tell when a gm s/c 3.8 is racing.
they're s/c whines pretty loud when being pushed.
Old Dec 28, 2009 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mahanddeem
was the gm 3800 racing ? or you guys just call passing by a vehicle "outrun" ?
why does everyone overrate the 3800 S/C like its some corvette or something... if you compare ones of similar year to the 4th gen they're about as quick and its all because OF the S/C, even for being .8 liters bigger they still dont make up that huge difference powerwise
Old Dec 28, 2009 | 11:39 PM
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The L67/L38 Motors alone are good motors... It's just the cars they happen to reside in is what limits them. You don't need the Eaton to make em quick either...

PS. TomZ you are what most people would call a tool, go hang out @ my350z or something where the rest of your kind belongs, going to college, wasting money on a car (a jag to make things even worse) and then brag about it on maxima.org? Oh yah you're cool....

Wait, wtf, we're way off topic...

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pump the brakes and end this little tea party, ladies.
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pump the brakes and end this little tea party, ladies.
I'LL END YOUR TEA PARTY #%Y*)!!!!!

j/k, seriously this was going to be a good thread too, it had so much potential...
Old Dec 29, 2009 | 05:43 AM
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doesnt matter...these are the fastest most reliable non-luxury car for that time period. If u can find one...buy one
My statement still stands. I guess u didnt actually read what i wrote. If u research and read about cars, like you sd, then u would know that what i wrote is completely accurate

Originally Posted by TomZ
a 07 jaguar convertible, thats what happens when you go to college...

How the hell u comparing a 95-99 car to a 07' Jaguar? That makes no sense. You dont compare luxury cars to non-luxury cars man.

Nissan makes the fatest most reliable cars of all non-luxury vehicles. If u wanna compare luxury then compare the Z or Infinity to other luxury cars.

"thats what happens when you go to college" ....im not even goin to touch that one.

Bottom line...these cars are reliable, have plenty of power, are very customizable, and look great. If u can find one....buy one.
Old Dec 29, 2009 | 10:09 AM
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My statement still stands. I guess u didnt actually read what i wrote. If u research and read about cars, like you sd, then u would know that what i wrote is completely accurate




How the hell u comparing a 95-99 car to a 07' Jaguar? That makes no sense. You dont compare luxury cars to non-luxury cars man.

Nissan makes the fatest most reliable cars of all non-luxury vehicles. If u wanna compare luxury then compare the Z or Infinity to other luxury cars.

"thats what happens when you go to college" ....im not even goin to touch that one.

Bottom line...these cars are reliable, have plenty of power, are very customizable, and look great. If u can find one....buy one.
you may try reading the whole conversation before making accusations...Because what your saying never happened...+ the conversation is over...
Old Dec 29, 2009 | 10:11 AM
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the ones saying rusty radiator supports live in areas where it snows. i wouldnt consider that as an issue since its the salt or whatever the city uses for the road when it snows...
Negative, I have rust and the car has always been in Houston Texas.

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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 02:35 PM
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aackshun your right the l36/67 were good motors.
it shocked the hell out of me when they ended the production of the motor.
Old Dec 29, 2009 | 04:32 PM
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aackshun your right the l36/67 were good motors.
it shocked the hell out of me when they ended the production of the motor.
it was ended because the basic design was 40yrs old and people didn't want a "old" motor.

that motors biggest downfall at the end was the barges it was put in with luxo gearing rather than performance gearing. Back in the day (1996) I had a Bonneville SSE which was the NA 3800 series I motor, that puppy was fast and handled great. Sadly the cars kept adding weight (stupid DOT requirements) so they got bogged down and that was the end of them.
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Originally Posted by cashoit
doesnt matter...these are the fastest most reliable non-luxury car for that time period. If u can find one...buy one
Originally Posted by TomZ
Fast? these things have like 170ish horse power on a 5ooolb body not to mention its fwd...
Look for I30s if you want luxury for cheap..I paid 1200 for my 4th gen I30...


Parts are cheap...thats a pro
the both of you are morons.
Old Dec 29, 2009 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by internetautomar
it was ended because the basic design was 40yrs old and people didn't want a "old" motor.

that motors biggest downfall at the end was the barges it was put in with luxo gearing rather than performance gearing. Back in the day (1996) I had a Bonneville SSE which was the NA 3800 series I motor, that puppy was fast and handled great. Sadly the cars kept adding weight (stupid DOT requirements) so they got bogged down and that was the end of them.

i would'nt had mind an "old" motor.
i mean look at the 3300to some people it's known as the baby 3800.
thats another motor that was reliable. then the 3.1sfi replaced it in the n-body.

man when the engine was fine that car "felt" peppy.
but that was once in a blue moon.
Old Dec 29, 2009 | 08:23 PM
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the both of you are morons.

what a mature response......The only morons here, are the ones who like to attack more then discuss in a civil manner and the guy who thinks this is a fast car....

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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 10:40 PM
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Sheesh

The guy had a 3rd Gen and asked about problems with a 4th gen.

Focusing on that, some tried to point out the issues. For those that took issue with the person who said it was fast, my guess is the inital question asker test drove the car, so he would be able to make his own opinion about fast. Its all relative, but again, he was comparing the 3rd gen to 4th gen.

Since the initial question asker was only looking at the 4th gen, no need to bring in the I30, unless the senior citizen neighbor who died also owned one.

The guy asked for issues on a 4th gen max (that couldn't be found from a test drive I'm guessing) so focus on that.

Oh and that "what happens when you go to college" remark was meant to be be degrading and was. No way that poster could try and take the high ground.

I think 1992maximase30's comment is probably the most accurate:
"they're good car's. some just need a lil tlc."

So what did I find to be common issues so far:
1. Hood struts (simple and cheap to fix though)
2. MAF Sensor/TB/EGR cleaning - sheesh does some of this stuff get dirty
3. Engine Coolant Temp Sensor - It seems this one may be more common than i thought, cuz since I fixed mine and posted on this thread I have gotten a lot of questions on the symptoms and fixing this.
4. Alternator - mine appears to be failing me now lol
Old Dec 30, 2009 | 07:26 AM
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Name callin?? Really man


Either way...my original comment still stands, unless there is anyone on this entire forum that can name a better car for that time period. You are not going to tell me that eagle or mitsubishi made a more reliable car. As evidenced by the number of 4th gens you still see on the road and the fact that every one of us are driving one.

If u can find one ...buy one. Thats it

O and i HATE turbo lag...JMO

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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 09:28 AM
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a 07 jaguar convertible, thats what happens when you go to college...
I did-and graduated. That is why I still drive the 4th gen and not a car that shows I graduated--I learned economics. Course, that could be why my retirement account is worth what it is.
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ALways try to use best gas Injectors go bad quick .If u drive where the roads are bad i can say suspension I live NYC control arms go bad quick .hmm what else oo yeah i heard manual 4th gen has problems with axles i just got one lets hope i wont need new axles soon
Overall car is reliable if u can take car of her
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[QUOTE=rdw72777;7358602]The guy had a 3rd Gen and asked about problems with a 4th gen.

Focusing on that, some tried to point out the issues. For those that took issue with the person who said it was fast, my guess is the inital question asker test drove the car, so he would be able to make his own opinion about fast. Its all relative, but again, he was comparing the 3rd gen to 4th gen.

Since the initial question asker was only looking at the 4th gen, no need to bring in the I30, unless the senior citizen neighbor who died also owned one.

The guy asked for issues on a 4th gen max (that couldn't be found from a test drive I'm guessing) so focus on that.

Oh and that "what happens when you go to college" remark was meant to be be degrading and was. No way that poster could try and take the high ground.

I think 1992maximase30's comment is probably the most accurate:
"they're good car's. some just need a lil tlc."

So what did I find to be common issues so far:
1. Hood struts (simple and cheap to fix though)
2. MAF Sensor/TB/EGR cleaning - sheesh does some of this stuff get dirty
3. Engine Coolant Temp Sensor - It seems this one may be more common than i thought, cuz since I fixed mine and posted on this thread I have gotten a lot of questions on the symptoms and fixing this.
4. Alternator - mine appears to be failing me now lol[/QUO

I agree with rdw72777, my 4th gen experience has been there are very few problems...hoot struts, electric antenna, rear calipers, cv boots, and just general maintenance. If it's truely 32K, the car has alot of life ahead of it. Jump on it if they are reasonable with the price.
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he kept his third gen and popped another injector into it.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 12:42 AM
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Hmmm, I need a low miled 4th gen... Karl I'm gonna give you a call tomorrow!
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haha, This is by far the most OT post ever..In any case I rebuilt my Maxima from the ground up almost but this is what I have replaced in the past year on my 96.

rad support
alternator
starter
knock sensor
camshaft sensor
crank position sensor
ignition switch
hood struts are good for going out
my auto tranny isnt the best either.
But I'm a perfectionist too..so.

Ive heard that racks are known to leak pretty good too.
As well as water pumps going out.
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