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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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hey guys,

ive been driving more and more everyday and my commute to work has gotten to be a decent drive and i dont think my struts are giving me enough shock absorption through the retarded off - road like streets of NYC.

So i was just looking for some opinions on which struts i can get to make the car feel like new again or better. Im not looking for anything sporty just want a comfortable ride to work and back. I want to be able to pretend like this city actually has paved roads.

Thanks in advance for the advice.
Old Jan 22, 2010 | 11:49 AM
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Tokico Blues will give you a nice ride. KYB-GR2's will firm things up a bit, but might actually feel harsh at times as they are a fairly firm strut. Monroe Sensatracks will also give you a pretty nice ride, with a bit more control then the Tokico's.
Old Jan 22, 2010 | 12:23 PM
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i live in ny also..and my struts are shot! how about if i want something a lil more sporty than stock replacements? wht would you suggest?
Old Jan 22, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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are you sitll completely stock?
Old Jan 22, 2010 | 01:43 PM
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Snypa - i put on some 18" rims and summer tires, nothing to the suspension.

njmaxseltd - thanks ill look into those.
Old Jan 22, 2010 | 01:59 PM
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honestly i've been researching, since i'm on a budget i plan to pick up kyb gr-2s and drop on some maxspeed springs..
Old Jan 22, 2010 | 02:20 PM
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How much of a drop are you planning on?
Old Jan 22, 2010 | 03:56 PM
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completely stock also..
Old Jan 22, 2010 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by eFLO
honestly i've been researching, since i'm on a budget i plan to pick up kyb gr-2s and drop on some maxspeed springs..
but it seems like your looking for more a sporty ride, im looking for more of a luxury ride(i dont know if thats what you would call it?)
Old Jan 22, 2010 | 08:17 PM
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maximarozin, I would suggest a set of Tokico blues. Outstanding comfortable ride. They are not harsh at all.

bkbajan, I would suggest the kyb gr-2's. However, if you are thinking about lowering the car I would go with Tokico Illumina's
Old Jan 23, 2010 | 08:48 AM
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im in NY too, planning on going with Tokico Illuminas + H&R Springs, or Eibach Springs
Old Jan 23, 2010 | 09:45 AM
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thanks guys, sounds like tokico blues are gonna be my choice.

so what price should i look?

and is there any suggested places to purchase them?
Old Jan 23, 2010 | 09:47 AM
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just get Koni's. It will give you much better ride quality.

Now, I'm running on Koni's & S Tech, the ride was harsh. But when I used Koni absorber with my stock spring (few months ago), the ride quality is way better than stock spring + stock strut.

And I've heard from members that Koni Absorber with H&R spring will give you pretty nice handling + ride quality.

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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 10:12 AM
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I'd check ebay first. Typically I'd just get the part numbers and use those in a google search and work my way down the list. I have the HP kit installed. As a DD, I like the ride and the overall feel of it. Ride height isn't too low and I'm not worried about some steep driveways or oversized speedbumps. So all in all, no complaints here.
Old Jan 23, 2010 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by std aja de
just get Koni's. It will give you much better ride quality.

Now, I'm running on Koni's & S Tech, the ride was harsh. But when I used Koni absorber with my stock spring (few months ago), the ride quality is way better than stock spring + stock strut.

And I've heard from members that Koni Absorber with H&R spring will give you pretty nice handling + ride quality.
im looking to get just the strut, which i guess is the absorber?

im not sure what exactly the springs do for the ride, but im guessing the bumps i feel in the road are caused by the struts being worn?
Old Jan 23, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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$327.14
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TOKIC...item1c0f725a4c

OR

$429.08
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TOKIC...item48391f8ead

Pay the extra $102 and call it a day.
Old Jan 23, 2010 | 06:05 PM
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im gonna keep my stock springs for now due to financial reasons.
so i guess its kyb's?

also..do these cars have a rear stabilizer bar or can i buy one and just bold it up?
Old Jan 24, 2010 | 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by maximarozin
im looking to get just the strut, which i guess is the absorber?

im not sure what exactly the springs do for the ride, but im guessing the bumps i feel in the road are caused by the struts being worn?
Yeah, absorber = strut.

When you get lowered you'll feel more bumps

Btw, here is koni's part number for our cars, hope so it will help you.

8641-1362 Sport
8040-1242 Sport
Old Jan 24, 2010 | 05:39 AM
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other needed parts

I just purchased Tokico HP blues and lowering springs. The left front boot is ripped so I'll be purchasing new boots.

Everyhting but the boots and struts are original parts. Upgrading to these new struts what other new parts should I tag along with it? Mounts? Bushings?
Old Jan 24, 2010 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by jholley
I just purchased Tokico HP blues and lowering springs. The left front boot is ripped so I'll be purchasing new boots.

Everyhting but the boots and struts are original parts. Upgrading to these new struts what other new parts should I tag along with it? Mounts? Bushings?
Front :
1. strut mount
2. upper rubber spring seat
3. strut bearing (If the old one was broken)

Rear :
1. Upper rubber spring seat
Old Jan 24, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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so, whats the point of buying springs?
Old Jan 24, 2010 | 02:19 PM
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Springs
Springs support the vehicle chassis or body and they can be considered the suspension’s “heart”. Their “energy memory” is what allows suspension movement. Body motion, or wheel/tire motion transmits kinetic energy (or load) to compress the spring. When the energy dissipates, the spring decompresses by releasing its stored energy and returns to its normal height.
Springs maintain ride height, influence body motion (pitch and roll) and ride quality as well as tire adhesion. Springs can be in coil, leaf or torsion bar form. Rubber air bags are also a form of spring. Generally, the heavier and higher a vehicle is, the stiffer the spring needs to be. A common way to lower a vehicle for improved handling or appearance is installing shorter springs. But be aware that a stiffer (shorter) spring will cause some loss of ride quality and reduced suspension travel. Excessive lowering will cause a very harsh ride, poor handling and possible suspension damage.

Shock Absorbers
Springs, suspension components and pivot bushings allow suspension movement, but something is needed to eliminate excess movement. Without proper control, suspension motion will become excessive and even violent. If springs are the heart, then shocks can be considered the brains. Shocks use hydraulic friction to damp out or resist suspension movement. While springs are “load sensitive” devices, shocks react to suspension velocities. They remove kinetic (or movement) energy from the suspension and convert it into heat, which is dissipated into the air. Shocks work in two directions. Compression (or closing) direction works with the spring to reduce bottoming and help keep the tire in contact with the road surface. Rebound (or extension) controls the release of spring energy as it returns to its normal height, so the vehicle doesn’t bounce or float. Excessive shock control delivers a harsh ride and reduced traction, while too little control allows the chassis and tires too much movement.
Old Jan 24, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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so, whats the point of buying springs?
Aftermarket spring will give you better looks, better handling
Old Jan 24, 2010 | 10:41 PM
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Aftermarket spring will give you better looks, better handling
yeah, but im not looking for "better looks"....and i dont really need handling since i drive mainly in NY.
Old Jan 24, 2010 | 10:41 PM
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Springs
Springs support the vehicle chassis or body and they can be considered the suspension’s “heart”. Their “energy memory” is what allows suspension movement. Body motion, or wheel/tire motion transmits kinetic energy (or load) to compress the spring. When the energy dissipates, the spring decompresses by releasing its stored energy and returns to its normal height.
Springs maintain ride height, influence body motion (pitch and roll) and ride quality as well as tire adhesion. Springs can be in coil, leaf or torsion bar form. Rubber air bags are also a form of spring. Generally, the heavier and higher a vehicle is, the stiffer the spring needs to be. A common way to lower a vehicle for improved handling or appearance is installing shorter springs. But be aware that a stiffer (shorter) spring will cause some loss of ride quality and reduced suspension travel. Excessive lowering will cause a very harsh ride, poor handling and possible suspension damage.

Shock Absorbers
Springs, suspension components and pivot bushings allow suspension movement, but something is needed to eliminate excess movement. Without proper control, suspension motion will become excessive and even violent. If springs are the heart, then shocks can be considered the brains. Shocks use hydraulic friction to damp out or resist suspension movement. While springs are “load sensitive” devices, shocks react to suspension velocities. They remove kinetic (or movement) energy from the suspension and convert it into heat, which is dissipated into the air. Shocks work in two directions. Compression (or closing) direction works with the spring to reduce bottoming and help keep the tire in contact with the road surface. Rebound (or extension) controls the release of spring energy as it returns to its normal height, so the vehicle doesn’t bounce or float. Excessive shock control delivers a harsh ride and reduced traction, while too little control allows the chassis and tires too much movement.
thanks for the info.
Old Jan 24, 2010 | 10:56 PM
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you're welcome. just a lil info off of the tokico website.
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