when to bleed brakes?
I did it at 65k, 6years, and to be honest, I had to convince myself that there was some difference so I'm not sure it was necessary...
If you have a tendency to brake hard and often, or at high speed, then it may be worthwhile every couple of years. Racing folk often do it before every weekend autocross...
If you have a tendency to brake hard and often, or at high speed, then it may be worthwhile every couple of years. Racing folk often do it before every weekend autocross...
Don't bother bleeding them unless they are mushy or you just changed the fluid. It's a good idea to change the fluid at least once a year, regardless of driving conditions. Brake fluid is hygroscopic, meaning it absorbs moisture, which lowers the boiling point, but also from a longevity standpoint, the water in the fluid will eventually start to cause problems in the system. Granted this is only a factor if you plan on keeping the car for a reallllly long time, but food for thought.
change vs bleed fluid
what's the difference between changing and bleeding fluid as you stated. is bleeding only getting new fuild in the lines and not the master cylinder?
Originally posted by iwannabmw
Don't bother bleeding them unless they are mushy or you just changed the fluid. It's a good idea to change the fluid at least once a year, regardless of driving conditions. Brake fluid is hygroscopic, meaning it absorbs moisture, which lowers the boiling point, but also from a longevity standpoint, the water in the fluid will eventually start to cause problems in the system. Granted this is only a factor if you plan on keeping the car for a reallllly long time, but food for thought.
Don't bother bleeding them unless they are mushy or you just changed the fluid. It's a good idea to change the fluid at least once a year, regardless of driving conditions. Brake fluid is hygroscopic, meaning it absorbs moisture, which lowers the boiling point, but also from a longevity standpoint, the water in the fluid will eventually start to cause problems in the system. Granted this is only a factor if you plan on keeping the car for a reallllly long time, but food for thought.
Re: change vs bleed fluid
Originally posted by max808
...is bleeding only getting new fuild in the lines and not the master cylinder?
...is bleeding only getting new fuild in the lines and not the master cylinder?
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Brake fluid absorbs moisture. You should replace your brake fluid every few years to maintain a clean system. There isn't much of a noticable difference in the system when you change it, unless you have some very old fluid in there. Lets say 7 - 10 years old. Then you feel the difference in the peddal.
Bleading is necessary only when the system is opened. And I don't mean opening the cap on the reserve.
I personally like to flush my system out with clean fluid every time I change my pads. Keeps the entire system nice and clean. The fluid is cheap and it's good cheap insurance against a failure due to contamination.
Bleading is necessary only when the system is opened. And I don't mean opening the cap on the reserve.
I personally like to flush my system out with clean fluid every time I change my pads. Keeps the entire system nice and clean. The fluid is cheap and it's good cheap insurance against a failure due to contamination.
Re: Re: change vs bleed fluid
Originally posted by jiaxima96
I think bleeding is just to get the air out of the braking system, for its proper operation.
I think bleeding is just to get the air out of the braking system, for its proper operation.
Re: Re: change vs bleed fluid
Originally posted by jiaxima96
I think bleeding is just to get the air out of the braking system, for its proper operation.
I think bleeding is just to get the air out of the braking system, for its proper operation.
I remember I replace my 86 Sentra brake pads many years ago, and bleeded them according to the Haynes manual. A few weeks later a friend called me and said his brake was very mushy, like stepping on a sponge. I drove 30 miles to him just to help bleed his brake. Perfectly working after that.
Re: when to bleed brakes?
Do it every two years as preventive maintenance. Brake fluid absorbs moisture by design and eventually moisture in the system creates rust. Plus....water (moisture) doesn't compress like brake fluid, so performance gets spongy over time. Every two years is recommended by the guys on Motorweek. You probably won't find that in your owner's manual.
Originally posted by max808
at what milage approximately is a good time to bleed brakes?
at what milage approximately is a good time to bleed brakes?
Re: Re: Re: change vs bleed fluid
Originally posted by iwannabmw
Exactly, you can bleed the brakes without changing the fluid, though you will have to add a little, but you shouldn't change the fluid without bleeding them. Since air is compressible and brake fluid isn't you will start to get that mushy fel with long pedal travel, kinda like driving on older GM car.
Exactly, you can bleed the brakes without changing the fluid, though you will have to add a little, but you shouldn't change the fluid without bleeding them. Since air is compressible and brake fluid isn't you will start to get that mushy fel with long pedal travel, kinda like driving on older GM car.
Re: Re: Re: Re: change vs bleed fluid
Originally posted by DanNY
i'm interested on how u change the fluid w/o opening the bleeder screws? do u use something like a turkey baster and pull the fluid out of the master cyl?
i'm interested on how u change the fluid w/o opening the bleeder screws? do u use something like a turkey baster and pull the fluid out of the master cyl?
In order to change the fluid, you need to drain it from the bleeder screws at the bottom of the system, while refilling it from the top at the brake fluid reservoir. This is the only way to do it correctly.
Refer to Haynes or Chilton manuals for the complete procedure.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: change vs bleed fluid
Originally posted by KWheelzSB
You can't. No turkey basters in the garage, please.
In order to change the fluid, you need to drain it from the bleeder screws at the bottom of the system, while refilling it from the top at the brake fluid reservoir. This is the only way to do it correctly.
Refer to Haynes or Chilton manuals for the complete procedure.
You can't. No turkey basters in the garage, please.
In order to change the fluid, you need to drain it from the bleeder screws at the bottom of the system, while refilling it from the top at the brake fluid reservoir. This is the only way to do it correctly.
Refer to Haynes or Chilton manuals for the complete procedure.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: change vs bleed fluid
Originally posted by KWheelzSB
You can't. No turkey basters in the garage, please.
In order to change the fluid, you need to drain it from the bleeder screws at the bottom of the system, while refilling it from the top at the brake fluid reservoir. This is the only way to do it correctly.
Refer to Haynes or Chilton manuals for the complete procedure.
You can't. No turkey basters in the garage, please.
In order to change the fluid, you need to drain it from the bleeder screws at the bottom of the system, while refilling it from the top at the brake fluid reservoir. This is the only way to do it correctly.
Refer to Haynes or Chilton manuals for the complete procedure.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: change vs bleed fluid
Originally posted by iwannabmw
Yep, you can't, or shouldn't anyway. What I meant to say was that it is possible to bleed the brakes while using very little new fluid, without the need to completely replace all the fluid in the system.
Yep, you can't, or shouldn't anyway. What I meant to say was that it is possible to bleed the brakes while using very little new fluid, without the need to completely replace all the fluid in the system.
it's like changing only 2 qts of oil...might as well do all of it while you're at it.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: change vs bleed fluid
Originally posted by DanNY
but while the bleeder screw is open why not change all of it? fluid is pretty cheap..unless you're using ATE or Motul.
it's like changing only 2 qts of oil...might as well do all of it while you're at it.
but while the bleeder screw is open why not change all of it? fluid is pretty cheap..unless you're using ATE or Motul.
it's like changing only 2 qts of oil...might as well do all of it while you're at it.
There is more than one way to skin a cat. 
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