Cattman vs Warpspeed Y-Pipe
07-31-2010, 11:41 PM
#1
Cattman vs Warpspeed Y-Pipe
So thinking about getting a Y-pipe and axleback for my 99 i30, is the $100 more for the Cattman versus the 250 for the Warpspeed really worth it? I'd be running the cattman axleback on it either way, unless warpspeed makes one also.
Thanks,
J-RAD
Thanks,
J-RAD
07-31-2010, 11:52 PM
#2
I would go with Cattman. I have owned 2 Warpspeed y-pipes and the inner flex collapsed on both of them with very low mileage. Dallas at Warpspeed did offer to repair them but I never sent them in.
Also if your a Cali spec I would recomend changing to a fed spec front exhaust manifold and getting a fed spec y-pipe.
Also if your a Cali spec I would recomend changing to a fed spec front exhaust manifold and getting a fed spec y-pipe.
08-01-2010, 01:00 AM
#4
So how do I tell if my car is Cali or Fed spec?
Raise your hood. Look for a shiny metal identification tag fastened to the passenger side of firewall. The top row is the Vehicle Identification Number, starting with J. The second row is model information. The first five characters are BLHUL. The 12th character is the destination:
N = Canada
V = California
U = US, not California
Raise your hood. Look for a shiny metal identification tag fastened to the passenger side of firewall. The top row is the Vehicle Identification Number, starting with J. The second row is model information. The first five characters are BLHUL. The 12th character is the destination:
N = Canada
V = California
U = US, not California
08-01-2010, 01:33 AM
#5
So how do I tell if my car is Cali or Fed spec?
Raise your hood. Look for a shiny metal identification tag fastened to the passenger side of firewall. The top row is the Vehicle Identification Number, starting with J. The second row is model information. The first five characters are BLHUL. The 12th character is the destination:
N = Canada
V = California
U = US, not California
Raise your hood. Look for a shiny metal identification tag fastened to the passenger side of firewall. The top row is the Vehicle Identification Number, starting with J. The second row is model information. The first five characters are BLHUL. The 12th character is the destination:
N = Canada
V = California
U = US, not California
08-01-2010, 01:05 PM
#11
08-04-2010, 04:25 PM
#16
Yes Warpspeed has updated the flex section and claims it's better than there original version and better than there competitors(Cattman). I'm getting ready to buy y-pipe myself and have been looking into same issues.
08-05-2010, 09:18 AM
#17
i had a warpspeed y pipe for many years and that thing is still solid. it is aluminized steel and you can feel the hp gains as soon as you put it on. and as for cattman the price is very high and i bet the quality is the same so i would go with warpspeed its the bang for the buck
08-05-2010, 09:33 AM
#18
i had a warpspeed y pipe for many years and that thing is still solid. it is aluminized steel and you can feel the hp gains as soon as you put it on. and as for cattman the price is very high and i bet the quality is the same so i would go with warpspeed its the bang for the buck
08-05-2010, 09:43 AM
#19
08-05-2010, 09:47 AM
#20
08-05-2010, 09:55 AM
#21
I agree. That was a blanket statement, but... The same question could be asked of you. 
Seems a little vague. Maybe it would help if you were specific about the quality differences.
Seems a little vague. Maybe it would help if you were specific about the quality differences.
08-05-2010, 09:56 AM
#22
lol you are funny. and i did mention it was quality i just added my "blanket statements" because i wanted to. i jus wouldnt just buy a y pipe for just the quality just my .02 so dont take it personal lol
08-05-2010, 11:31 AM
#23
HP gains vs cattman and warpspeed are minimal at best... The extreme difference in price comes from the quality of the pipe itself.
My warpspeed is falling apart as we speak and developed a few leaks (I have to admit @ WOT it sounds pretty damn sweet), I'd just accept it and be like "sure that's what I get if I lived in the north" where one has to deal with exhaust degrading climates, but this y-pipe has been in texas most of it's life and has NOT seen a Kansan winter.
If you don't plan on going far with your maxima, i'd suggest spending the money on a cattman Y-pipe, cause it WILL last, unless you're going to use the money you saved on the Y-pipe purchase to make some alterations to it to help it last longer/perform better.
My warpspeed is falling apart as we speak and developed a few leaks (I have to admit @ WOT it sounds pretty damn sweet), I'd just accept it and be like "sure that's what I get if I lived in the north" where one has to deal with exhaust degrading climates, but this y-pipe has been in texas most of it's life and has NOT seen a Kansan winter.
If you don't plan on going far with your maxima, i'd suggest spending the money on a cattman Y-pipe, cause it WILL last, unless you're going to use the money you saved on the Y-pipe purchase to make some alterations to it to help it last longer/perform better.
08-05-2010, 12:45 PM
#25
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welcome to conjecture
I posted, admittedly in the wrong thread, about this same question.
From what I can tell, many SAY that cattman is better, and have zero hard data to back up that claim.
I basically called Cattman out and said, 'uhh, why dont YOU do the comparison yourself?' - got nothing in response.
Everyone on here loves to ride Cattman's nuts, so you have to take that into account. That being said, I am sure Cattman's Y is of high quality. But to base your purchasing decision on a few heads saying 'oh my ws flex section went bad', is retarded. also, blindly subscribing to the theory of 'you get what you pay for' is totally antiquated and doesnt hold up 50% of the time anyway.
SHOW me EXACTLY why cattman's pipe is better. SHOW me EXACTLY why WSP's pipe is worse. Cant be done. and until someone can give a really solid answer as to why Catt's pipe is $150 more, i really see no reason to give him the benefit of the doubt over a very reputable company.
long story short - no one knows which is better.
From what I can tell, many SAY that cattman is better, and have zero hard data to back up that claim.
I basically called Cattman out and said, 'uhh, why dont YOU do the comparison yourself?' - got nothing in response.
Everyone on here loves to ride Cattman's nuts, so you have to take that into account. That being said, I am sure Cattman's Y is of high quality. But to base your purchasing decision on a few heads saying 'oh my ws flex section went bad', is retarded. also, blindly subscribing to the theory of 'you get what you pay for' is totally antiquated and doesnt hold up 50% of the time anyway.
SHOW me EXACTLY why cattman's pipe is better. SHOW me EXACTLY why WSP's pipe is worse. Cant be done. and until someone can give a really solid answer as to why Catt's pipe is $150 more, i really see no reason to give him the benefit of the doubt over a very reputable company.
long story short - no one knows which is better.
Last edited by illgiveyathetick; 08-05-2010 at 12:47 PM.
08-05-2010, 12:51 PM
#26
I posted, admittedly in the wrong thread, about this same question.
From what I can tell, many SAY that cattman is better, and have zero hard data to back up that claim.
I basically called Cattman out and said, 'uhh, why dont YOU do the comparison yourself?' - got nothing in response.
Everyone on here loves to ride Cattman's nuts, so you have to take that into account. That being said, I am sure Cattman's Y is of high quality. But to base your purchasing decision on a few heads saying 'oh my ws flex section went bad', is retarded. also, blindly subscribing to the theory of 'you get what you pay for' is totally antiquated and doesnt hold up 50% of the time anyway.
SHOW me EXACTLY why cattman's pipe is better. SHOW me EXACTLY why WSP's pipe is worse. Cant be done. and until someone can give a really solid answer as to why Catt's pipe is $150 more, i really see no reason to give him the benefit of the doubt over a very reputable company.
long story short - no one knows which is better.
From what I can tell, many SAY that cattman is better, and have zero hard data to back up that claim.
I basically called Cattman out and said, 'uhh, why dont YOU do the comparison yourself?' - got nothing in response.
Everyone on here loves to ride Cattman's nuts, so you have to take that into account. That being said, I am sure Cattman's Y is of high quality. But to base your purchasing decision on a few heads saying 'oh my ws flex section went bad', is retarded. also, blindly subscribing to the theory of 'you get what you pay for' is totally antiquated and doesnt hold up 50% of the time anyway.
SHOW me EXACTLY why cattman's pipe is better. SHOW me EXACTLY why WSP's pipe is worse. Cant be done. and until someone can give a really solid answer as to why Catt's pipe is $150 more, i really see no reason to give him the benefit of the doubt over a very reputable company.
long story short - no one knows which is better.
Subscribe to this thread, and give me a month, I'll show you what a warpspeed looks like after 2 years of use in a southern climate.
In the meantime, someone should take pics of their cattmans....
Who knows!! Maybe the Cattman D' Riders will increase or decrease... but I'm taking this warpspeed off of my car soon, so hopefully someone can help me out by getting pics of their used cattman.
(Shameless plug... I'm selling it for $70+ shipping when it comes off btw).
Last edited by aackshun; 08-05-2010 at 12:55 PM.
08-13-2010, 09:17 PM
#29
Ok i gotta toss my two cents in..I have had both Iv had a Cattman ypipe since 04..in that time iv ran ss autochrome headers and y and a warpspeed y..in a 5th gen and in the past few weeks have had Cattman and Warpspeed Ys on my 4th gen..the cattman hands down will last the longest the warpspeed iv had since 07 and it was only on my 5th gen for a short time it has some small rust spots nothing bad..cattman has 0 rust and has seen 3 times the road time..as for sound I think the warpspeed is louder kinda higher tone then the cattman..as for hp I cant tell a diff..the welds on the flanges seem much more robotic on the cattman compaired to the warpspeed...I will say that iv never read or heard some one say a bad thing about Brians (Cattman) stuff plus he is fun to Bs with on the phone..Long story short take a vote Cattman will win every time..
08-13-2010, 09:25 PM
#31
It's an old internet joke, but since you appear to not be "hip" with things...
"Lord have mercy"***
Better?
Also, does anyone have a used cattman Y they can take pictures of? I'd love to make this thread a nice fully detailed comparison thread...
08-14-2010, 08:59 AM
#32
$200 WS vs $350 Cattman is not a true comparison!
$250 WS vs $350 Cattman is a true comparison!
Reason:
Both are T-304 grade SS.
Also, both need to be similar versions, because both have gone through more than four versions.
Comes down that $100, will buy you..... a name that everyone on this forum thinks is god.
I am completely happy with my non SS WS Y.
$250 WS vs $350 Cattman is a true comparison!
Reason:
Both are T-304 grade SS.
Also, both need to be similar versions, because both have gone through more than four versions.
Comes down that $100, will buy you..... a name that everyone on this forum thinks is god.
I am completely happy with my non SS WS Y.
08-14-2010, 11:54 AM
#33
There is a reason that people like Cattman...I have nothing bad to say about the Warpspeed other then stated above..Warpspeed does have very good CS the people are always very nice..
Last edited by cjlgarage; 08-14-2010 at 04:01 PM. Reason: I cant spell
08-14-2010, 01:02 PM
#34
Well so that we can all be informed, can anyone give specific comparisons? The Wizard said "I've compared them side by side. Cattman wins hands down for multiple reasons." Would you mind going into detail, b/c I am curious myself. I have a Warpspeed now, but I may change to Cattman (sometime down the road, not now), but I want to know just what exactly makes it better, not the typical "Brian Catts is better quality just b/c." I've bought things from him, so I know he is a good guy, and his products are top notch, but in the case of y-pipes for the Maxima, I want to know some exact differences in quality, performance, etc. Anyone plz chime in with some specific info, im def curious, but no one is really giving specific reasons why the Cattman y-pipe is better, which really isn't helpful when trying to make an informed decision.
08-14-2010, 03:59 PM
#35
SHIFT NISMO did you read what i typed above...when i get back to my MAX I will try and take side by side photos...of my cattman iv had since 04 and my warpspeed Iv had 3 years..Im not anyones sack rider so i have no favs..I callem how i see them..
08-14-2010, 05:31 PM
#36
08-15-2010, 10:01 AM
#37
..The warpspeed isnt stainless steel...I like the warpspeed ..I called them friday and said the flex section had rust on it..They said "send it in and we will fix it free"..so im gonna mail it to them and see what happens...
Last edited by cjlgarage; 08-15-2010 at 10:06 AM.
08-15-2010, 08:46 PM
#38
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that's pretty sweet, let us know how it goes
08-21-2010, 11:33 PM
#39
i live in new york, and i know that id rather just buy the warpspeed because it seems that both have their differences, but are similar in performance. Also, the rust doesnt come for a while I guesssssss.
warpspeed ftw?
warpspeed ftw?
08-25-2011, 04:11 PM
#40
I just bought a 2000 Maxima GXE (first car) and other an CAI my first mod is going to be the Y-Pipe ( seems like most bang for buck). I need to know how and why the Cattman is $100 differnece on virtually the same item?
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