Just finished installing my PR CAI. The sound is incredible and the difference is immediate and better than expected. It seemed to take my car a little bit of time to adjust but after about a five minute ride it was roaring.

The install took longer than expected and Place Racings instructions SUCK.....that is right they SUCK!

I feel better now.

Maxima.org instructions are AWESOME and I would have been at a handicap without them.

 

congrats.. no go out and wake up the neighborhood

 

Let me be the first to give my congratulations!!!

What are you gonna do next? What do you have now?

Did you have to drill a hole through your fender well?

IanS

 

aye, i'm getting mine soon...

 

Yes, you have to drill a hole through to place your K&N filter...

 

Yes, I got a 3 1/2" hole bit. I have a Y pipe on order from Warpspeed. I cannot believe the sound of the PRCAI at WOT!

 

I heard CAI's give a low whooooosh sound. My pop-charger gives a nice low girgle under accel. My question is, does the CAI grumble or is it just a monotone low noise ??

Hot air ownz my power!

 

it grumbles when you have it at WOT...i love the sound it makes...just like Sprint said...go wake up the neighborhood!!!

 

Hopefully a CAI is like a popcharger, except magnified in cool grumbleness, and WITHOUT the low end lag. That plague has made me avoid many races. Especially tonite with a supra. It ownz me

Craig Mack also ownz me

 

The growl of the CAI is great. It still puts a smile on my face when I get on the gas. The only bad thing about this mod is it will give you a lead foot

 

People, People,

You are tellin' me how great CAI is, but can you give me 2 straight answers.

1)Did you notice a boost in power off the line ?

2)Does it exactly like a popcharger except louder ??

If you are familier with the pop, then you would know it has some serious laggage off the line, but damn it sounds good.


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1- Yes I felt a boost of power off the line.

2- Not quite sure what your asking in this quesiton. But I will take a shot at what I think your asking. If your comparing sounds, the CAI has a much deeper growl, then the pop charger. By the way I had no lag whats so ever with the CAI.

 

Thank you bro those are the answers i was looking for. Sorry i worded #2 like a foreigner. A MUCH deeper growl than a pop eh ? This I have got to hear, because my Pop can be loud. Well I guess i gotta get my mommy to get me one of those for x-mas.

Out with the HAI and in with the cold.

 

Craig,

I just installed a JWT intake and noticing the same low-end lag. from your experience, at what (approx) rpm do you think the lag disappears? by the way, i have a '96 max with auto tranny w/ no exhaust mods. i don't think the pop offers any increase until after 3000 rpm. what do you think?

jhlee

 

I just installed my Warpspeed Y-Pipe 2 weeks ago (thanks to Jeff92SE).

You WON'T be dissapointed. It fits like a glove, sounds like a jet engine, and added what I believe to be MORE than 20hp to the car at the powerband. Haven't dynoed yet, however.

Because of my Pop-Charger and Y-Pipe, I'm dog slow off the line right now, however. But get me between late 1st and beginning of 3rd gears, and I own all. (2500-4000rpm)

So maybe I should get a CAI now to fix that problem....?

IanS

 

Where'd you get the bit from? I'm going to install mine pretty soon and didn't want to drill a pilot hole and then just saw out a circle, if it's a complete perfect circle, heck, can i buy it from you?

 

JHLEE,

I'd say the lag disappears around mid-range-highrange, which is around 3000rpms. I am '95 auto and currently stock (performance wise) except the pop. The reason for the poplag is becuase the filter is sitting inside your engine bay, and as we all know it is extremely hot in there. Well, at idle, all the heat is just sitting in there. When you accelerate, all that hott air wooshes into your engine, thus giving a lag in speed. At midrange and highway speeds, all the cool air is rushing into the engine so the pop sucks that in.

BTW, i'm getting a CAI to replace the pop. That will give back the lost low end.

 

Hmm, This is a first.

Are you SURE you noticed a loss in low end with the Y-pipe ?? I heard it does not effect it, and it actually gives a lil' on the low-end. Obviously the pop lags you, but I don't know that a Y-pipe will, especially if you got the 2.5" version.

Strange.

 

I just installed a weapon r dragon intake and it's sounds a lot deeper than my old JWT pop charger. I didn't want to drill a hole, that's why I got the weapon r instead of the CAI. It looks pretty good too.

 

purchase a hole saw from any hardware store...make sure you get the adapting bit, and you'll be fine. Just make sure you tap the hole before you start drilling...good luck!

 

Craig,

which CAI are you getting, Place Racing for Warpspeed? how much do you think it would cost to get it installed. the installation looks pretty difficult and i don't even have the tools.

jhlee

 

Come on 20 BHP? what are you a rice boy, lets be serious about this, I have it to with a Cattman CAI (PR racing) and I know for a fact that its fast but 20 HP? really, why don't you put some stickers on it! that will make it faster! just keeping it real dudes.

 

I just ordered a Place Racing CAI from Custommaxima.com. I was originally going with warpspeed, but they are supposedly still waiting for the K&N filters to come in, and they have no updated pics. But they do have great prices.

As far as installation, i'm doing it all myself. Since we both have pop-chargers, installation will be easier. The part i'm not so clear on is the drilling. Hopefully my kit comes with a peice that will hold the CAI in place through the hole.

As far as tools, with common metric wrenches and maybe a socket wrench or 2 you could do most of it. We will both need to be goin to our local hardware store to pick up a drill. I am too not 100% clear on the install, but it should't be too hard.

 

Its not the fact that its hard, any idiot can do it, the problem is the work. It took me HOURS to drill that damn hole. The drill wouldnt stay in place, sparks kept flying and the drill kept flying off course. Needless to say I did not get a round hole. After the drilling I had to chip away around the edge to get it as round as possible. Thankfully, WSP sends a rubber thingy that goes around the hole, so the CAI doesnt get all scratched up. But after all was said and done, it was well worth it! So good luck!

DPW

 

BTW, make sure that you get someone to help you, cause if you dont, you will spend all day and all night messing around. And make sure to only go by Maximadriver instructions, everything else is crap.

DPW

 

Hey Tint,

My friend got a shiny metal housing peice that held his CAI into place, but he has a 2000 stang. Do you know if PR will send a housing peice for their CAI's for our maxima's? For $210 if they don't, they WILL get b!tch-slapped.

 

Thanks for the inputs all! few more questions, however. i've read the instructions on the org and couple things that are unclear to me.

1) how does the air temp sensor gets mounted after CAI installed. i noticed while installing my pop charger the wire is only 4 inches long. if the sensor is to detect the new lower temp, shouldn't be placed inside the fender along with the k&n filter?

2) during wet weather, will the filter get wet in it's new location?

3) if i took it to a shop, how much for install do you think?

jhlee

 

#2: Negitive. Unless it floods and you are speeding through HIGH waters, you will be FINE. The filter is tucked too far up their to be effected.

#3: A big rip-off. When I was a newbie and asked a shop how much to install my pop, they said $60 That's more than I payed for the damn thing! For a CAI, I wouldn't be surprised if the installation is as much/or more than the CAI itself.

 

Jesus, you don't have to be such a a$$hole man.

It just feels like a whole lot of power, and I've seen MANY dynos that add 17-23hp with a Y-Pipe and Pop Charger together. It's posted all over the forums.

Do a search, and maybe you'll learn something.

BUT, like I said, I honestly don't know how much hp it is, because I haven't dynoed it. I was just trying to give the impression that the guy will likely really like his Warpspeed, because mine has done me alot of good.

I can't stand people that browse the forums just to find a way to twist people's words to rag on them.....you seem to me to be one of those guys....

This forum is about helping people, not being a schmuck.

IanS

 

congrats man! Ive had mine on for about six months now .. and still love it Sounds even better when you complete your exhaust too.

 

How the hell am I twisting your words? you said:

Right there buddy^^^, and, im not a browser, I always check all forums, and choose my words wisely, I'm just tring to keep it real, don't hate just because I go against what you say. Show me dyno numbers that show this combo adds 20 HP. We all like to believe that our mods add HP, but the reality is that it really doesn't add as much as we would like. Most of it is marketing hype.

 

OK....that's cool then.

I just said it FEELS like 20hp+..

I have no idea how much really, and I have seen personally cars that truly did gain over 20hp with a CAI/Pop Charger and Y-Pipe.

It can happen, and it does FEEL like it, that's all.

I really don't know how much hp gain it is, but I can safely say it's at least 15, and maybe over 20hp.

IanS

 

Craig- You wont really need a mount for the CAI. Once you get the hole, and put everything in place, it all fits very well. Im sure it looks cool, but I dont think it would serve any other purpose

jhlee_99- The longer part of the CAI has two holes in it. That is where you screw in the temp sensor. I have WSP and the holes werent big enough for the screws so I had to make them a little bigger. Anyway, the temp sensor measures the temp thats in the intake. It doesnt really matter where, I dont think. Its as close you can get to the filter without going in the fender. The wire is plenty long enough.

There is almost no way to get water in there, so dont worry bout that.

Dont take it to a shop. Its a waste of money. If you have a drill, then you can do it. Just get someone to help you. Not because its hard, but because it would be a little time consuming otherwise. Plus, 2 heads are better than 1 when reading instructions. A shop will see that you cant install a simple intake and proceed to charge you up the a$$ cause they think you dont know anything. Anyway, whatever you decided, Good luck guys

DPW

 

The bit I bought is 3 1/2" and I also bought the adapter. The adapter had a regular drill bit which will start the hole for you.

Give yourself at least 2 1/2 hours to do this. Make sure you have a power drill and not some Black and Decker el cheapo rechargeable. You need a powerful drill to cut the hole.

Make me an offer on the Bit and the Adapter. They ran me @ $25.00 for both.

PM me with your offer!
DL

 

There is a piece that will come with the kit to hold it in place around the hole.

Use a 3 1/2" bit with adapter. As far as a Power Drill I rented one from Home Depot for a few hours cause one of my boys was not around for me to borrow his.

 

TintDaMax,

thanks. great feedback/advice!

what year is your max? mine is '96 and the wire is really short about 4 inches.

also, did your wsp cai come with K&N filter or some other brand. i looked at their website and it shows a different filter. if different brand, how's the quality?

thanks.

 

Your cone filter can actually tolerate a certain amount of moisture. What it, and your car cannot tolerate is being submerged. This CAN cause a catastrophic engine failure.

If you think there's a chance you could end up driving through more than 6" of standing water at any point, you should look into an AEM Air Bypass valve:

http://www.aempower.com/induction.htm

AEM claims their valve can only be used on their own CAI, but that's just for legal reasons - they won't pay a damage claim if one of their valves fails while used in conjunction with a competitor's CAI. This shouldn't be an issue though, because the valve works.

The other alternative is to go with a "CAI winter setup," as many on this board do, removing the lower pipe and attaching the filter inside the engine compartment. Do a search for the specific details.

 

I saw this thread and wanted to respond. Last week we found a solid vendor for K&N filters at a damn good price. First batch shows up on WED. We were lucky, weekly deliveries with no shipping charge, right to our shop door!! From now on(as I had previously posted) all of our CAIs will be shipped with a K&N filter. Dallas assured me he would put some new PICs on the web site. We do have a web designer working with us and new site will be up soon. The current web page is not that great but has served it's purpose.

Dan WSP

 

WHERE DO I FIND A PLACE RACING CAI ON THE INTERNET FOR CHEAP

HOW MUCH DO THEY GO FOR?

 

Calm down bro...smoke a b&m and inhale it will mello you...

Anyways, www.custommaxima.com has them. It's a good deal, and it's a reliable source. Or maybe try www.avalonracing.net