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Old 12-17-2001, 08:09 PM
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automagic tran trick

On automagics if you disconict the resistor on the front of the drivers side strut tower it causes the transmition to shift as hard as it can at every up shift!!(meaning better acceleration and tire cherps on every up shift) I am planing to put a transmition cooler on to keep this set-up more reliable but I am wondering is that going to be all I need to keep my trany from killing it self??? will the check engin light still come on ????? can I bipass that????Maybe I can put in a ajustible swich to control how hard it shifts. Has any one else done this???
I DONT WANT TO LET THIS SUPER SECRIT(and cheep)TRICK TO GO TO WASTE FOR ALL US AUTOMAGIC OWNERS.
SUGGESTIONS?

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Old 12-17-2001, 08:33 PM
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exactly where is the resistor?
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Old 12-17-2001, 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by jules
exactly where is the resistor?
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Right behind the air box(not under) on the right side of the engine set in front of the front strut tower.Just disconnect the wires
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this trick is old, it's not that good for your tranny on a long term basis. i used it on my 95 when i had it rigged to a switch and only when i was using NOS.
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima88
this trick is old, it's not that good for your tranny on a long term basis. i used it on my 95 when i had it rigged to a switch and only when i was using NOS.
when u wired it to a switch... which wire did u use? does it shift hard all the time or just at wide open throttle or just at low rpm's?
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Old 12-17-2001, 09:07 PM
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IS it bad even when you use a trany cooler?
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Old 12-17-2001, 09:30 PM
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Its not good at all after a length of time and abuse.

And I heard tranny coolers aren't beneficial if you don't need them. Like if you don't run NOS or an SC.
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Old 12-17-2001, 09:39 PM
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Re: Its not good at all after a length of time and abuse.

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And I heard tranny coolers aren't beneficial if you don't need them. Like if you don't run NOS or an SC.
I heard tranny coolers are good except in under 40 temps when the tranny can become to cool. Then you just cover part of it with plastic or something.The harder the shift the hoter your tranny will become (this is bad).
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Originally posted by Maxima97GLE


when u wired it to a switch... which wire did u use? does it shift hard all the time or just at wide open throttle or just at low rpm's?

the shifts are hard no matter what
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Old 12-17-2001, 09:46 PM
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Until one day..

..bang.
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Originally posted by 96gxe
IS it bad even when you youse a trany cooler?
thank you.
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Old 12-17-2001, 11:25 PM
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like was said earlier, this is old. Tranny goes into 'fail safe mode' and sends 100% all systems go tranny fluid to your tranny when it shifts, also employs your check engine light. I guess it's good to use whenever racing, but during everyday driving, it's bad for both diveability and long term life of your auto tranny.
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1.ok it is bad for your tranny to use all the time
2.tranny coolers are good for anyone, cooler trannies last A LOT longer
3.i had it wired to the wire with the black tracer i think
4.it shifted hard all the time,very clunky around town.
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I have mine on a switch, but I never use it. I tried putting in a variable resistor to control the firmness, and it worked. However, the one I used wasnt able to handle the current in that circuit so it burned up. The variable resistors that can handle that kind of current are pretty large and expensive.
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima88
1.ok it is bad for your tranny to use all the time
2.tranny coolers are good for anyone, cooler trannies last A LOT longer
3.i had it wired to the wire with the black tracer i think
4.it shifted hard all the time,very clunky around town.
with regard to #2, that is fine as long as the transmission is allowed to reach it's normal operating temperature.
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Old 12-18-2001, 05:48 AM
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The reason why thisis a bad idea is because you are trying to control a MECHANICAL system with a electric connection, and this is one system that was not designed to do that. Just get the VB mod.
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useing a potentiometer sounds like a good idea, but I guess this system wasn't made for that.....
Hmmm, maybe add a couple of capacitors or something
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Old 12-18-2001, 08:21 AM
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The reason why thisis a bad idea is because you are trying to control a MECHANICAL system with a electric connection, and this is one system that was not designed to do that. Just get the VB mod.
Yes , i think the VB mod sounds much better and safer then this mod. By disconnecting the reisitor , are you guys talking about that silver thing that is all by itself on the strut tower wall, like , right near the wire harnesses ?

The VB mod sounds better, and safer , but not as good as my 5 speed swap that im getting .
 
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What is the normal operating temperature range ?
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with regard to #2, that is fine as long as the transmission is allowed to reach it's normal operating temperature.
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Originally posted by 95rubygxe


with regard to #2, that is fine as long as the transmission is allowed to reach it's normal operating temperature.
the transmission will reach the range of proper operation. in the winter it might just tkae a little longer. i had the hayden 404 which is one of the biggest ones and it was fine in New England. i see no reason why anyone who drives spirited shouldn't have one.
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima88


the transmission will reach the range of proper operation. in the winter it might just tkae a little longer. i had the hayden 404 which is one of the biggest ones and it was fine in New England. i see no reason why anyone who drives spirited shouldn't have one.
i'd say the tranny cooler is nice insurance for those who add aftermarket power options and those who drive "spirited". for someone like me, who drives his Maxima like an ol' fart most of the time, a tranny cooler would be overkill. i save my "pedal to the metal" tendencies for my '72 442.
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Originally posted by 95rubygxe


i'd say the tranny cooler is nice insurance for those who add aftermarket power options and those who drive "spirited". for someone like me, who drives his Maxima like an ol' fart most of the time, a tranny cooler would be overkill. i save my "pedal to the metal" tendencies for my '72 442.
even a small 401 cooler is still good insurance.
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Old 12-18-2001, 02:44 PM
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how much for a good hayden tranny cooler for a 5 speed ?
i want to do about a 75-100 shot of NOS around spring, im planning the Level 10 tranny mod (cost ?) and a cooler (cost ?) thanks
 
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Originally posted by MaximaRversion2
how much for a good hayden tranny cooler for a 5 speed ?
i want to do about a 75-100 shot of NOS around spring, im planning the Level 10 tranny mod (cost ?) and a cooler (cost ?) thanks
Manuals don't need tranny coolers.
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Originally posted by medicsonic


Manuals don't need tranny coolers.
or a level 10 tranny mod
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not even with nitrous ?
 
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Originally posted by MaximaRversion2
not even with nitrous ?

true.
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Old 12-18-2001, 04:33 PM
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true.
thats good then , save me some cash.
 
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thats good then , save me some cash.
then was no were to spend the cash so i saved you the time and further embarassement
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so the tranny cooler is a good idea? even in the winter? i drive 'spirited' most of the time so i think i may invest in one.
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Originally posted by DrivinDaMax98
so the tranny cooler is a good idea? even in the winter? i drive 'spirited' most of the time so i think i may invest in one.
you should, max trannies are fragile to begin with.
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima88


you should, max trannies are fragile to begin with.
where should i start when looking for one?
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Originally posted by DrivinDaMax98


where should i start when looking for one?
pepboys, hayden 401 through 404 are avaiable. the 401 is the smallest. and 404 hte biggest. if you live in a climate that is cold sometime and odn't plan on NOS or s.c iwould stick with a 402-403, 404 is big.
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima88


pepboys, hayden 401 through 404 are avaiable. the 401 is the smallest. and 404 hte biggest. if you live in a climate that is cold sometime and odn't plan on NOS or s.c iwould stick with a 402-403, 404 is big.
would they have them in stock or would they have to order it? how much? and could i install this or would i have to take it somewhere?
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Originally posted by DrivinDaMax98


would they have them in stock or would they have to order it? how much? and could i install this or would i have to take it somewhere?
they should have it in stock, you also will need some extra tranny hose. like 5 feet should be enough. under 50 bucks for everything.

http://www.smg.sphosting.com/trannycooler.htm

theres' the how-2. it sounds more menacing then it is.
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I hope no one is telling me my Hayden 404 is bad in the winter time. I do tend to push the pedal a little harder than most other drivers, which was my first intention of getting the cooler. I also do daily driving in stop and go traffic, but then again I also have never let my car sit in drive at a complete stop always in neutral since the day I bought the Max at 36K miles and installed the cooler at 80K, and now I'm at 102K with still like new smooth shifts. I'm pretty sure the weather here in Maryland gets really cold but not too cold where sitting in traffic will keep it from reaching operating temperature.
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I've never heard anything about this before. I am interested though. I have often thought of a VB mod but that would be ~$400 and would be a permanant decision. I am worried I won't like the firm shifts. This trick sounds like it has the benefits of quick shifts but only when you desire them! Sounds good to me. Why do you guys say it is bad for the tansmission? Are there really benefits? Has someone actually tested the results? Are the results the exact same as the VB mod (.4-.6s off the 1/4 mile)? Is it hard to disconnect or can it be done easily? The check engine light comes on when you have it disconnected? Thanks guys, sorry for all the questions.
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Originally posted by ptatohed
I've never heard anything about this before. I am interested though. I have often thought of a VB mod but that would be ~$400 and would be a permanant decision. I am worried I won't like the firm shifts. This trick sounds like it has the benefits of quick shifts but only when you desire them! Sounds good to me. Why do you guys say it is bad for the tansmission? Are there really benefits? Has someone actually tested the results? Are the results the exact same as the VB mod (.4-.6s off the 1/4 mile)? Is it hard to disconnect or can it be done easily? The check engine light comes on when you have it disconnected? Thanks guys, sorry for all the questions.
It is as easy as unpluging a lamp.Check engin light came on but turened it self off in about a week. There has to be a way to make this set up safe thats under $400, with that you can buy a cai and ypipes(budget type)Some one that is knowledgeable can figur out how for a better price. I know some engineer out there is thinking can I be that hero.
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then was no were to spend the cash so i saved you the time and further embarassement
thtop makin fun o' meeee
 
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it was hard as hell trying to snap my tranny last winter, but after all the stuff i did to it... it finally went After that... $50.00 for a brand new tranny installed from Nissan. Better get that Gold warranty. An extra $1,500 at signing... saved me $4,000. Thanks Nissan. Oh and a special thanks to Christine at Atlantic Automall Nissan for making sure they got me a New Japanese built tranny. Thanx.
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