looking to change both lower control arms but not sure where to start
#1
looking to change both lower control arms but not sure where to start
I am looking to change both of my control arms as it seems like this is the last thing it can be . My car makes a noise. When turning left or going into a turn with my steeringwheel tilted left . You can hear it more if someone is sitting on the passenger side . Now my questions are . I would like to know where can I order. A good setonline , looking to keep my car so I want good parts . Does any one know a webside or what brand I should look for ? I was thinking that maybe napa will have moog control arms maybe ? Btw my car is lowered on tokico. Struts and s. Tein springs , thank you for all your help
#4
I know. IDK how bad the roads are in NJ by you, but I'm in Queens, NY. I learned a Control arm lesson few months ago. I ended up ripping one of them due to the potholes. I only trust OEM factory replacements now, since aftermarket control arms are crap.
#5
Some moog LCAs will cost you more than that.
I installed mevotech LCAs I got from rockauto.com about a year ago. They now cost $52:
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1283822
They've given me a more comfortable ride than those highly rusted OEMs I replaced.
I installed mevotech LCAs I got from rockauto.com about a year ago. They now cost $52:
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1283822
They've given me a more comfortable ride than those highly rusted OEMs I replaced.
#6
Some moog LCAs will cost you more than that.
I installed mevotech LCAs I got from rockauto.com about a year ago. They now cost $52:
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1283822
They've given me a more comfortable ride than those highly rusted OEMs I replaced.
I installed mevotech LCAs I got from rockauto.com about a year ago. They now cost $52:
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=1283822
They've given me a more comfortable ride than those highly rusted OEMs I replaced.
#7
Yea , nj roads are as bad , the only problem I have is that I'm not 100 %. If that's what it is . I already replaced a trans mount , all inner and outer tie rods , and boths axels , I just don't want to spend another 400 for nothing
#8
Hmmmm. Can you further describe the problem you are having? Also, what kind of noise do you get?
#9
Ok let me try . Let's say I'm driving and there's a ramp that goes left. When I turn. Left I will hear. Like a clunking noise comming out of the passenger side if there's a heavier person sitting on passenger side ill hear it more and its louder , I will even hear it just driving over a uneven road or when car bounces
#10
What's the condition of the struts? Check the strut mount. Also, check the sway bar end links. They are known to cause clunking sounds. Have someone push down on the car and try to locate the sound.
#11
I replaced the sway bar. Bushings as well , I forgot to mention it , I already tried pushing down on it and there's no sounds , the only thing that I'm thinking is if it would be a strut it would make a noise when steering is turned right as well and it doesn't on a right turn there's no noise at all
#13
I went with this kit.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Suspe...ht_1792wt_1165
I've had them on for around 5000 miles and no problems yet. The brand is OE Parts
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Suspe...ht_1792wt_1165
I've had them on for around 5000 miles and no problems yet. The brand is OE Parts
#14
I replaced the sway bar. Bushings as well , I forgot to mention it , I already tried pushing down on it and there's no sounds , the only thing that I'm thinking is if it would be a strut it would make a noise when steering is turned right as well and it doesn't on a right turn there's no noise at all
#15
I replaced the sway bar. Bushings as well , I forgot to mention it , I already tried pushing down on it and there's no sounds , the only thing that I'm thinking is if it would be a strut it would make a noise when steering is turned right as well and it doesn't on a right turn there's no noise at all
#16
Yea I hear no noise when hitting a bump or anything , I already checked all 3 bolts and they are tight , when I hear the noise it sounds like its comming from the axel but I already replaced them 2 on warranty just to make sure , one more thing I forgot is that I hear it too when I accelerate fast sometimes
#17
I went with this kit.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Suspe...ht_1792wt_1165
I've had them on for around 5000 miles and no problems yet. The brand is OE Parts
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Suspe...ht_1792wt_1165
I've had them on for around 5000 miles and no problems yet. The brand is OE Parts
#18
Have you tried tightening the strut main bolt? The main bolt is in the middle of those 3 surrounding strut mount bolts. That loose bolt was causing clicking noise when I turned right.
#20
#21
I got the ebay Lower Control Arm kit and have been happy with it so far. (2 years/20k miles later). I don't see how they would cause the noise, though... I had to replace mine because the ball joint was shot and the wheels were not staying in place ... but there were no clunking sounds.
To see if your ball joints (and thus the LCA) need to be replaced, lift the car on a jack, and with two hands try to see if you can make the wheel move side to side. Especially if you can get the bottom of the wheel move in and out at all, you've got ball joint issues.
To see if your ball joints (and thus the LCA) need to be replaced, lift the car on a jack, and with two hands try to see if you can make the wheel move side to side. Especially if you can get the bottom of the wheel move in and out at all, you've got ball joint issues.
#22
Agreed on the strut mounts. Jack up from under center crossmember till both wheels are in the air and see if a strut pops out.
I also had a similar problem when my hub started going. It would clunk when turning, braking, or accelerating, in addition to bumps and dips.
Dr J
I also had a similar problem when my hub started going. It would clunk when turning, braking, or accelerating, in addition to bumps and dips.
Dr J
#24
I need to make some template responses. One would apply to this post.
This thread is a direct result, as far as I can tell, from people BEING STUPID AND SELFISH. What is it with this forum and everyone feeling justified in chiming in with "do this, do that?" I say that with very little reservation as I know little about the history of this issue. My statement stands and applies either way. I do have is a plethora of examples to support my rant...
STOP GUESSING you impotent ignoramuses! This kid just got screwed with a bunch of work and money, most likely, based on your dumb responses.
xkazik - It sounds like you are ready to do a little investigation before you dump more money into your vehicle. That is good, but you still seem a bit hasty IMO. Why are you looking for control arms before you have proven that is your problem? I searched you to find previous posts on this issue so I could get a better scope on your issue. I did not find anything but if you can plz respond and link it that would be greatly helpful.
A control arm is a solid piece of metal. If it is making noise you better stop driving your car IMEDIATELY as you are about to break it. This would send you into an UNCONTROLLABLE situation and whatever speed you were going. LCAs don't make noise... The same goes if there is damage that limits the intended function of this part... replace it, but, in that case, it would still not be the cause of your stated issue.
Bushings do make noise, especially if they have been installed improperly. It is hard to say what might, or could, be the issue as, again, I do not have the previous posts. If you replaced the CA you might fix the problem; not because the CA was the problem, but you will be installing new bushings.
If you have not checked the stut, strut mount, and subsequent journals, I would say you are about to make an even more shortsighted and imprudent decision with this LCA replacement than I originally thought. Understand that the strut assembly is a 'problematic' issue with 4th gens. That stated, they wear down in time. They can be tricky too. It takes, in many cases, a very specific type of force to make them squeak. This more likely your issue than the systems you have already replaced.
Throwing money away is the result of listening to these self-righteous feel-gooders. Fixing ANYTHING is never about assumption; proper TS is always the answer!! Kudos for those who gave you alternative options instead of running with your assumption.
This thread is a direct result, as far as I can tell, from people BEING STUPID AND SELFISH. What is it with this forum and everyone feeling justified in chiming in with "do this, do that?" I say that with very little reservation as I know little about the history of this issue. My statement stands and applies either way. I do have is a plethora of examples to support my rant...
STOP GUESSING you impotent ignoramuses! This kid just got screwed with a bunch of work and money, most likely, based on your dumb responses.
xkazik - It sounds like you are ready to do a little investigation before you dump more money into your vehicle. That is good, but you still seem a bit hasty IMO. Why are you looking for control arms before you have proven that is your problem? I searched you to find previous posts on this issue so I could get a better scope on your issue. I did not find anything but if you can plz respond and link it that would be greatly helpful.
A control arm is a solid piece of metal. If it is making noise you better stop driving your car IMEDIATELY as you are about to break it. This would send you into an UNCONTROLLABLE situation and whatever speed you were going. LCAs don't make noise... The same goes if there is damage that limits the intended function of this part... replace it, but, in that case, it would still not be the cause of your stated issue.
Bushings do make noise, especially if they have been installed improperly. It is hard to say what might, or could, be the issue as, again, I do not have the previous posts. If you replaced the CA you might fix the problem; not because the CA was the problem, but you will be installing new bushings.
If you have not checked the stut, strut mount, and subsequent journals, I would say you are about to make an even more shortsighted and imprudent decision with this LCA replacement than I originally thought. Understand that the strut assembly is a 'problematic' issue with 4th gens. That stated, they wear down in time. They can be tricky too. It takes, in many cases, a very specific type of force to make them squeak. This more likely your issue than the systems you have already replaced.
Throwing money away is the result of listening to these self-righteous feel-gooders. Fixing ANYTHING is never about assumption; proper TS is always the answer!! Kudos for those who gave you alternative options instead of running with your assumption.
#26
I need to make some template responses. One would apply to this post.
This thread is a direct result, as far as I can tell, from people BEING STUPID AND SELFISH. What is it with this forum and everyone feeling justified in chiming in with "do this, do that?" I say that with very little reservation as I know little about the history of this issue. My statement stands and applies either way. I do have is a plethora of examples to support my rant...
STOP GUESSING you impotent ignoramuses! This kid just got screwed with a bunch of work and money, most likely, based on your dumb responses.
xkazik - It sounds like you are ready to do a little investigation before you dump more money into your vehicle. That is good, but you still seem a bit hasty IMO. Why are you looking for control arms before you have proven that is your problem? I searched you to find previous posts on this issue so I could get a better scope on your issue. I did not find anything but if you can plz respond and link it that would be greatly helpful.
A control arm is a solid piece of metal. If it is making noise you better stop driving your car IMEDIATELY as you are about to break it. This would send you into an UNCONTROLLABLE situation and whatever speed you were going. LCAs don't make noise... The same goes if there is damage that limits the intended function of this part... replace it, but, in that case, it would still not be the cause of your stated issue.
Bushings do make noise, especially if they have been installed improperly. It is hard to say what might, or could, be the issue as, again, I do not have the previous posts. If you replaced the CA you might fix the problem; not because the CA was the problem, but you will be installing new bushings.
If you have not checked the stut, strut mount, and subsequent journals, I would say you are about to make an even more shortsighted and imprudent decision with this LCA replacement than I originally thought. Understand that the strut assembly is a 'problematic' issue with 4th gens. That stated, they wear down in time. They can be tricky too. It takes, in many cases, a very specific type of force to make them squeak. This more likely your issue than the systems you have already replaced.
Throwing money away is the result of listening to these self-righteous feel-gooders. Fixing ANYTHING is never about assumption; proper TS is always the answer!! Kudos for those who gave you alternative options instead of running with your assumption.
This thread is a direct result, as far as I can tell, from people BEING STUPID AND SELFISH. What is it with this forum and everyone feeling justified in chiming in with "do this, do that?" I say that with very little reservation as I know little about the history of this issue. My statement stands and applies either way. I do have is a plethora of examples to support my rant...
STOP GUESSING you impotent ignoramuses! This kid just got screwed with a bunch of work and money, most likely, based on your dumb responses.
xkazik - It sounds like you are ready to do a little investigation before you dump more money into your vehicle. That is good, but you still seem a bit hasty IMO. Why are you looking for control arms before you have proven that is your problem? I searched you to find previous posts on this issue so I could get a better scope on your issue. I did not find anything but if you can plz respond and link it that would be greatly helpful.
A control arm is a solid piece of metal. If it is making noise you better stop driving your car IMEDIATELY as you are about to break it. This would send you into an UNCONTROLLABLE situation and whatever speed you were going. LCAs don't make noise... The same goes if there is damage that limits the intended function of this part... replace it, but, in that case, it would still not be the cause of your stated issue.
Bushings do make noise, especially if they have been installed improperly. It is hard to say what might, or could, be the issue as, again, I do not have the previous posts. If you replaced the CA you might fix the problem; not because the CA was the problem, but you will be installing new bushings.
If you have not checked the stut, strut mount, and subsequent journals, I would say you are about to make an even more shortsighted and imprudent decision with this LCA replacement than I originally thought. Understand that the strut assembly is a 'problematic' issue with 4th gens. That stated, they wear down in time. They can be tricky too. It takes, in many cases, a very specific type of force to make them squeak. This more likely your issue than the systems you have already replaced.
Throwing money away is the result of listening to these self-righteous feel-gooders. Fixing ANYTHING is never about assumption; proper TS is always the answer!! Kudos for those who gave you alternative options instead of running with your assumption.
#27
I am looking to change both of my control arms as it seems like this is the last thing it can be . My car makes a noise. When turning left or going into a turn with my steeringwheel tilted left . You can hear it more if someone is sitting on the passenger side . Now my questions are . I would like to know where can I order. A good setonline , looking to keep my car so I want good parts . Does any one know a webside or what brand I should look for ? I was thinking that maybe napa will have moog control arms maybe ? Btw my car is lowered on tokico. Struts and s. Tein springs , thank you for all your help
Best of luck
#29
Both of my axels were changed not even a year ago . they where replaced with raxals and i heard they best you can get .
#30
http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b1...10207-1427.mp4
http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b1...10207-1412.mp4
on this one you can hear the noise 15 sec withing the video
#31
...http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b1...10207-1412.mp4
on this one you can hear the noise 15 sec withing the video
on this one you can hear the noise 15 sec withing the video
#33
Ok I did try to tighten the main bolts on the struts , Passenger side did move but only a lil bit, i didnt get a chance of checking if that helped because im already at work , but i dont think that would do that big of a difference . I made 2 videos , apologies for the bad quality but i was recording it on my way to work , i picked 2 of them that you can hear the noise clearly . You can hear the noise on both of the videos . the phone was laying on the passenger side leg room .
http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b1...10207-1427.mp4
http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b1...10207-1412.mp4
on this one you can hear the noise 15 sec withing the video
http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b1...10207-1427.mp4
http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b1...10207-1412.mp4
on this one you can hear the noise 15 sec withing the video
i was strapped for cash at the time thats why i went junk yard route if this does turn out to be your issue u may want to press new bearing into ur hub
#34
sound like the wheel hub i went through this this past summer i changed sway bar bushings end links strut mounts lca bushing and ball joints and i still had that sound what i did to check this was i jacked up the car and remove the wheel an brake assembly and also the rotor then i grabed the stud where the lug nut go and wiggled from side to side there was a ton of play so i went to the junk yard and pulled a hub assembly of another max and i havent heard the noise since
i was strapped for cash at the time thats why i went junk yard route if this does turn out to be your issue u may want to press new bearing into ur hub
i was strapped for cash at the time thats why i went junk yard route if this does turn out to be your issue u may want to press new bearing into ur hub
#35
so are you saying i need a new hub or just the wheel bearing ? i guess you saying i need a new wheel bearing but you just got a whole hub at the junk yard because it was cheaper ? i did just look at my maintenance sheet and it looks like i have changed the drivers side bearing but not passenger
#37
I have an idea... clutch in then make the left turn, see if the noise goes away.
Report back findings.
Sidenote: Short of a pretty hard crash/accident there is no need to replace the LCAs, even in that case, no way in hell you need to goto the dealership and get new ones, goto the junk yard and get the LCAs and then replace all of the bushings, links, joints with new ones.
Report back findings.
Sidenote: Short of a pretty hard crash/accident there is no need to replace the LCAs, even in that case, no way in hell you need to goto the dealership and get new ones, goto the junk yard and get the LCAs and then replace all of the bushings, links, joints with new ones.
Last edited by aackshun; 02-08-2011 at 08:37 AM.
#39
My 5spd is damn near destroyed, diff bearing being one of the many bad bearings in it, and it made that exact same noise on right turns, I started clutching in on turns to make the noise go away cause it was annoying.