Off the line: S/C'ed auto vs. 5spd
Off the line: S/C'ed auto vs. 5spd
A '95 Auto SE (me) vs. friends '95 SE 5spd. Let's say I supercharged with a V1. I would easily take him off the line and throughout right ? Somewhere I heard 5spds could still take auto's off the line even tho they were s/c'ed
That seems farfetch'd.
That seems farfetch'd.
Re: Off the line: S/C'ed auto vs. 5spd
Originally posted by Craig Mack
A '95 Auto SE (me) vs. friends '95 SE 5spd. Let's say I supercharged with a V1. I would easily take him off the line and throughout right ? Somewhere I heard 5spds could still take auto's off the line even tho they were s/c'ed
That seems farfetch'd.
A '95 Auto SE (me) vs. friends '95 SE 5spd. Let's say I supercharged with a V1. I would easily take him off the line and throughout right ? Somewhere I heard 5spds could still take auto's off the line even tho they were s/c'ed
That seems farfetch'd.
Erik
Re: Re: Off the line: S/C'ed auto vs. 5spd
Originally posted by tifosiv122
It could be correct...I heard S/C add no torque.
Erik
It could be correct...I heard S/C add no torque.
Erik
I bet a 5-speed would win off the line
The vortech supercharger is peaky just like a turbo, anyone with one or has ridden in one can tell you that. So, technically a supercharger is building no boost at idle, therefore it can get off the line no faster than a n/a auto maxima. The 5-speed would still take the auto off the line, but not for long unless the 5-speed is heavily modded.
Re: I bet a 5-speed would win off the line
Originally posted by 96sleeper
The vortech supercharger is peaky just like a turbo, anyone with one or has ridden in one can tell you that. So, technically a supercharger is building no boost at idle, therefore it can get off the line no faster than a n/a auto maxima. The 5-speed would still take the auto off the line, but not for long unless the 5-speed is heavily modded.
The vortech supercharger is peaky just like a turbo, anyone with one or has ridden in one can tell you that. So, technically a supercharger is building no boost at idle, therefore it can get off the line no faster than a n/a auto maxima. The 5-speed would still take the auto off the line, but not for long unless the 5-speed is heavily modded.
Possibly 10mph ?
Re: I bet a 5-speed would win off the line
Originally posted by 96sleeper
The vortech supercharger is peaky just like a turbo, anyone with one or has ridden in one can tell you that. So, technically a supercharger is building no boost at idle, therefore it can get off the line no faster than a n/a auto maxima. The 5-speed would still take the auto off the line, but not for long unless the 5-speed is heavily modded.
The vortech supercharger is peaky just like a turbo, anyone with one or has ridden in one can tell you that. So, technically a supercharger is building no boost at idle, therefore it can get off the line no faster than a n/a auto maxima. The 5-speed would still take the auto off the line, but not for long unless the 5-speed is heavily modded.
Re: I bet a 5-speed would win off the line
Originally posted by 96sleeper
The vortech supercharger is peaky just like a turbo, anyone with one or has ridden in one can tell you that. So, technically a supercharger is building no boost at idle, therefore it can get off the line no faster than a n/a auto maxima. The 5-speed would still take the auto off the line, but not for long unless the 5-speed is heavily modded.
The vortech supercharger is peaky just like a turbo, anyone with one or has ridden in one can tell you that. So, technically a supercharger is building no boost at idle, therefore it can get off the line no faster than a n/a auto maxima. The 5-speed would still take the auto off the line, but not for long unless the 5-speed is heavily modded.
Correct. Tonight I raced a early model 300zx non-turbo 5spd and he got me off the line. We did a 20mph rolling race, I did the 3 honk thing, and he still got the jump on me. Once the boost build up, I just destroyed him. I would think in any case, a 5spd would still get a jump out on automatics. However, if you get a high stall converter, then it even things up.
Re: Re: I bet a 5-speed would win off the line
Originally posted by Cumalot
Correct. Tonight I raced a early model 300zx non-turbo 5spd and he got me off the line. We did a 20mph rolling race, I did the 3 honk thing, and he still got the jump on me. Once the boost build up, I just destroyed him. I would think in any case, a 5spd would still get a jump out on automatics. However, if you get a high stall converter, then it even things up.
Correct. Tonight I raced a early model 300zx non-turbo 5spd and he got me off the line. We did a 20mph rolling race, I did the 3 honk thing, and he still got the jump on me. Once the boost build up, I just destroyed him. I would think in any case, a 5spd would still get a jump out on automatics. However, if you get a high stall converter, then it even things up.
1) Even a cold air intake helps off the line a little, are you tellin' me a supercharger wont do anymore if even that !?
2)Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! Would you hear the whine off the line ??
Re: Re: I bet a 5-speed would win off the line
Originally posted by Craig Mack
About how long or what MPH would the supercharger start kickin in ?
Possibly 10mph ?
About how long or what MPH would the supercharger start kickin in ?
Possibly 10mph ?
Re: Re: Re: I bet a 5-speed would win off the line
Originally posted by 96sleeper
I rode in justin gadlage's max with the stock pulley, and the boost didn't start building until 3500 rpm. From there on it felt really strong, but below that it feels about like mine.
I rode in justin gadlage's max with the stock pulley, and the boost didn't start building until 3500 rpm. From there on it felt really strong, but below that it feels about like mine.
Damn, I always thought I could squeel my tires and have jolting power off the line with a supercharger.
Re: Re: Re: Re: I bet a 5-speed would win off the line
Originally posted by Craig Mack
Damn, I always thought I could squeel my tires and have jolting power off the line with a supercharger.
Damn, I always thought I could squeel my tires and have jolting power off the line with a supercharger.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I bet a 5-speed would win off the line
Originally posted by 96sleeper
Like cumalot said, get a high stall torque converter, and you will have serious traction problems off the line, unless of course you can get your tires to hook up.
Like cumalot said, get a high stall torque converter, and you will have serious traction problems off the line, unless of course you can get your tires to hook up.
Re: Re: Re: I bet a 5-speed would win off the line
Originally posted by Craig Mack
Cumalot I was hopin' you would reply. Questions fellas:
1) Even a cold air intake helps off the line a little, are you tellin' me a supercharger wont do anymore if even that !?
2)Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! Would you hear the whine off the line ??
Cumalot I was hopin' you would reply. Questions fellas:
1) Even a cold air intake helps off the line a little, are you tellin' me a supercharger wont do anymore if even that !?
2)Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!! Would you hear the whine off the line ??
Sure, the SC should help in launching off the line better. If you go against someone who really know how to drive their 5spd, he should able to get you off the line no matter what. Unless you have a high stall torque converter like I mentioned. Another thing is launching with a SC isn't an easy task. If you stomp on it too hard, all you'll get is wheel spin. Unless you have the help of a LSD. I'm back on my stock wheels and tires, so you can forget about any kind of grip.
You can't really hear the whine on my SC because it's a V2 SQ(super quiet). If you have the V1, that's a different story. You can hear that sucker coming.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I bet a 5-speed would win off the line
Originally posted by Craig Mack
Wouldn't I need to upgrade my VB if I got one of those ?
Wouldn't I need to upgrade my VB if I got one of those ?
Most definitely. I recommend you get that first. The VB gives you firmer shifts plus it prolong your tranny. Also, you'll need a tranny cooler too.
Woohoo ! Cumalot is the man!
Originally posted by Cumalot
Sure, the SC should help in launching off the line better. If you go against someone who really know how to drive their 5spd, he should able to get you off the line no matter what. Unless you have a high stall torque converter like I mentioned. Another thing is launching with a SC isn't an easy task. If you stomp on it too hard, all you'll get is wheel spin. Unless you have the help of a LSD. I'm back on my stock wheels and tires, no you can forget about any kind of grip.
You can't really here the whine on my SC because it's a V2 SQ(super quiet). If you have the V1, that's a different story. You can hear that sucker coming.
Sure, the SC should help in launching off the line better. If you go against someone who really know how to drive their 5spd, he should able to get you off the line no matter what. Unless you have a high stall torque converter like I mentioned. Another thing is launching with a SC isn't an easy task. If you stomp on it too hard, all you'll get is wheel spin. Unless you have the help of a LSD. I'm back on my stock wheels and tires, no you can forget about any kind of grip.
You can't really here the whine on my SC because it's a V2 SQ(super quiet). If you have the V1, that's a different story. You can hear that sucker coming.
This is exactly what happened in my friends 01 lightning:When I mashed the gas too far that thing spun like mad and it was whinin and swingin everwhere! I felt it was the supercharger, and to your confirmation it is. That's what I want in my max. Call me crazy but I crave all that.
If you've ever heard a '01 Lightning, you know they have a huge whine. Hopefully thats what a V1 is like.

So in closing a Supercharger really does add serious power to your wheels off the line, or else they wouldn't spin like mad, am i right?
Lightnings are beasts!
I get a lot of wheel spin especially on the stock tires. Even when I'm in gear. When I raced the guy in a 20mph roll, when I stomp on it, I still got major wheel spin. The guy and their friends were like, "holy crap, how did you spin your tires when you're in gear?!" lol...newbies.
I get a lot of wheel spin especially on the stock tires. Even when I'm in gear. When I raced the guy in a 20mph roll, when I stomp on it, I still got major wheel spin. The guy and their friends were like, "holy crap, how did you spin your tires when you're in gear?!" lol...newbies.
Originally posted by Cumalot
Lightnings are beasts!
Lightnings are beasts!
Random people at stoplights even ask him about it. Jealousy is a biyatch!
When I raced the guy in a 20mph roll, when I stomp on it, I still got major wheel spin. The guy and their friends were like, "holy crap, how did you spin your tires when you're in gear?!" lol...newbies.
Originally posted by Cumalot
Lightnings are beasts!
I get a lot of wheel spin especially on the stock tires. Even when I'm in gear. When I raced the guy in a 20mph roll, when I stomp on it, I still got major wheel spin. The guy and their friends were like, "holy crap, how did you spin your tires when you're in gear?!" lol...newbies.
Lightnings are beasts!
I get a lot of wheel spin especially on the stock tires. Even when I'm in gear. When I raced the guy in a 20mph roll, when I stomp on it, I still got major wheel spin. The guy and their friends were like, "holy crap, how did you spin your tires when you're in gear?!" lol...newbies.
yuh
sounds like my friends Grand National.. I am not exactly sure what he did to it so far, but I know he raised the boost.. It is frightening, he can barely drive in the rain!
You can cruising at 35 and mash the pedal, the tires would spin crazy. He's trashing modded mustangs and Camaros left and right. Boost is a wonderful thing
two things
now that I converted to 5spd hehe, at 15-20mph in gear, if I hit the gas (leave in gear, dont touch the clutch) I can spin free...
I have a friend with a viper, 800hp including 200shot NOS... he has done a TON to it (subs, body kit, endless performance stuff, etc).. he can hit the gas on the interstate and light up his tires, and they are 50% wider then mine haha.... that thing is a hoss,
I have a friend with a viper, 800hp including 200shot NOS... he has done a TON to it (subs, body kit, endless performance stuff, etc).. he can hit the gas on the interstate and light up his tires, and they are 50% wider then mine haha.... that thing is a hoss,
Re: two things
Originally posted by hlh0501
now that I converted to 5spd hehe, at 15-20mph in gear, if I hit the gas (leave in gear, dont touch the clutch) I can spin free...
I have a friend with a viper, 800hp including 200shot NOS... he has done a TON to it (subs, body kit, endless performance stuff, etc).. he can hit the gas on the interstate and light up his tires, and they are 50% wider then mine haha.... that thing is a hoss,
now that I converted to 5spd hehe, at 15-20mph in gear, if I hit the gas (leave in gear, dont touch the clutch) I can spin free...
I have a friend with a viper, 800hp including 200shot NOS... he has done a TON to it (subs, body kit, endless performance stuff, etc).. he can hit the gas on the interstate and light up his tires, and they are 50% wider then mine haha.... that thing is a hoss,
Re: two things
Originally posted by hlh0501
now that I converted to 5spd hehe, at 15-20mph in gear, if I hit the gas (leave in gear, dont touch the clutch) I can spin free...
I have a friend with a viper, 800hp including 200shot NOS... he has done a TON to it (subs, body kit, endless performance stuff, etc).. he can hit the gas on the interstate and light up his tires, and they are 50% wider then mine haha.... that thing is a hoss,
now that I converted to 5spd hehe, at 15-20mph in gear, if I hit the gas (leave in gear, dont touch the clutch) I can spin free...
I have a friend with a viper, 800hp including 200shot NOS... he has done a TON to it (subs, body kit, endless performance stuff, etc).. he can hit the gas on the interstate and light up his tires, and they are 50% wider then mine haha.... that thing is a hoss,
Re: Re: two things
Originally posted by Craig Mack
That's sweet that you can spin those tires while in gear! You make me want to follow your footsteps in that conversion everytime I talk to you...
That's sweet that you can spin those tires while in gear! You make me want to follow your footsteps in that conversion everytime I talk to you...
SuDZ
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