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Old Nov 6, 2011 | 08:39 PM
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Car shifts, wont move 5spd

So I leave my house this morning, pulling off in first gear, I shift into second, heard a soft "thunk" noise and the car just revs.

I can put the car into easily into any gear, with the car running, with or without pressing in the clutch pedal, and the car wont move. Everything still feels normal. Clutch pedal moves the fork. Tach works properly. Speedo doesn't move abnormally.

Through my search I've only been able to find info on people who's shifters are stuck in gear or wont go in gear.

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Car is a 97 i30t, 5spd VLSD
Replaced blown motor less than 2 months ago
Reused my transmission, flywheel, pressure plate, and clutch. New Nissan throw out bearing
New slave cylinder and hose
Old Nov 6, 2011 | 09:02 PM
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How's your tranny fluid lookin'?
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sounds like a clutch failure of some sort.
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 07:13 AM
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Tranny fluid is new. Put it in about a little over a month ago when I did the motor swap.

I'm hoping its clutch related.
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 07:15 AM
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last time that happened to me, my axle snapped lol ijs...
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 07:20 AM
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Sounds like you broke an axle/axle popped out of the housing.

Or your pressure plate suddenly said kthxbai.
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by JNCoRacer
I can put the car into easily into any gear, with the car running, with or without pressing in the clutch pedal, and the car wont move. Everything still feels normal. Clutch pedal moves the fork. Tach works properly. Speedo doesn't move abnormally.

Through my search I've only been able to find info on people who's shifters are stuck in gear or wont go in gear.

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I am a bit confused...are u sayin, with the engine on and running, u can put the car in 1st or any gear and everything works, except the car doesnt move???

How can u put the car in gear with pressing the clutch pedal . that makes no sense.

If u can put it into gear with the car running, without using the clutch pedal, then either your shifter is broken, or u got a clutch issue cuz the clutch aint connected to the engine anymore.

I dont think its the axle. U cd look under the car and see if that was broken and both axles wouldnt fail at once unless you tranny is completely fawked

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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 07:53 AM
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Right. I also forgot to mention that I've had some noise from the throw out/input shaft bearing until now. Now its quiet.
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 07:58 AM
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Right. I also forgot to mention that I've had some noise from the throw out/input shaft bearing until now. Now its quiet.

You gonna hafta pull the tranny man.

Sucks
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 08:05 AM
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i thought about the axle too when we were talken yesterday. although, on any car that ive seen when your axle fails, your speedo will climb. and as far as i know you still have to use the clutch to engage a gear.

i think im leaning towards the clutch or pp now...
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 08:06 AM
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Not looking forward to it, but meh, I'll do it. I was just looking for some opinions since I wasn't able to find anything similar when I searched.
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 08:17 AM
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although, on any car that ive seen when your axle fails, your speedo will climb.

Yeah i think the VSS is on the tranny and isnt dependent on the axle rotation.
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 08:41 AM
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Definitely could be an axle issue. I screwed up one of my axles (outside CV joint) when changing front struts. Took car off lift, put in gear to move, let out clutch - no movement of car at all. Put it back up, replaced axle I had messed up - everything was fine.
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Originally Posted by JNCoRacer
Not looking forward to it, but meh, I'll do it. I was just looking for some opinions since I wasn't able to find anything similar when I searched.
Ah cahmon it's just a 5mt, you're acting like you and a friend are @ a LKQ half off sale and you don't have the right tools and it's already 90*+ @ 9am on a saturday morning.... and then the car has no wheels or brakes so you can't pop off the axle bolt....

If you were in Houston, we'd have it off/on in under 1hr30mins (As long as it's not VicousMo's car).

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VSS runs off of differential, and speedometer will climb with a broken or popped shaft.
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he said his input shaft noise has suddenly gone away (it's not throwout bearing noise). if the input shaft noise has suddenly gone away, that means the input shaft bearing is not turning anymore, which means it's not connected to the engine anymore. so I think either the clutch has failed, or perhaps even his input shaft has broken.
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 11:49 AM
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I sure hope its not the input shaft.
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
he said his input shaft noise has suddenly gone away (it's not throwout bearing noise). if the input shaft noise has suddenly gone away, that means the input shaft bearing is not turning anymore, which means it's not connected to the engine anymore. so I think either the clutch has failed, or perhaps even his input shaft has broken.

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Old Nov 7, 2011 | 04:23 PM
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i really doubt it's the input shaft. i can't recall ever hearing of that on a maxima, but that is something that could cause the symptoms he is describing, if I'm understanding the symptoms correctly.
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 06:48 PM
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Same thing happened too me, it was a driver side axle, let me tell you I am auto tho, axle snapped right in half
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 09:37 PM
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Or your pressure plate suddenly said kthxbai.
...sorry, dont mean to laugh but that shiz was funny lmao
Old Nov 7, 2011 | 10:23 PM
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I had a cv joint pop out on me once and it caused similar problems. I could put it in gear, but the car wouldn't move.
Old Nov 8, 2011 | 01:55 PM
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Well it looks like my clutch disc is the problem. I'll get max_dreamer to post a pic since I'm not around a computer. But the hub sheared off of the friction surface.
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what brand was the clutch?
Old Nov 8, 2011 | 02:36 PM
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That was an OEM 5th gen clutch from Courtesy Nissan.
Old Nov 8, 2011 | 02:46 PM
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That was an OEM 5th gen clutch from Courtesy Nissan.
dude seriously? epic fail for oem
I was gonna suggest the input shaft broke but this is along the same path.
Old Nov 8, 2011 | 03:06 PM
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Yeah, its out of their 12 month/12,000 mile warranty too.
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And I'm starting to think that what I thought was input shaft bearing noise may have been this clutch disc. The noise didn't start until I installed it.
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it's possible. that is surprising that an actual OEM clutch would fail like that, especially so early.
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id still take it back to them and ***** 'em out.
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Is it possible that the IPS bearings are so far gone that it caused the disk to flex and work harden, resulting in fracturing?
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Is it possible that the IPS bearings are so far gone that it caused the disk to flex and work harden, resulting in fracturing?
Before the ISB seal would go? Very very unlikely.

My clutch was damaged though when it came out of my 5mT
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Well, what I thought was IPS noise has gone away. I guess it was the clutch disc right from the start. The tranny still pops out of 4th gear, so now I'm debating replacing it with a used one, rebuilding mine, or buying a new/reman'd one.
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did you lose one of those shiny spring loaded ball bearings that are supposed to keep it in gear? Did you even break the gearbox open or no?
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No, I haven't opened it yet. I think I'll get a complete rebuild set, throw the other tranny in, and fix this one. The tranny is 90% of the reason I bought the car.
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Tranny popping out can be a few things.

Synchros or Selectors, mine was popping out of gear because the selector was damaged not allowing it to go all the way in (POWACHIFTIN MANGG), which is eventually why I lost 4th gear in my 1st 6mt tranny.

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Would that have anything to do with why my shifter moves back and forth in 3rd and 5th when I give/let up on the gas? I thought it was motor mounts but I just put filled ones in.
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Originally Posted by JNCoRacer
Would that have anything to do with why my shifter moves back and forth in 3rd and 5th when I give/let up on the gas? I thought it was motor mounts but I just put filled ones in.
My shifter does the same thing moving front<--->rear motion when I give gas and let off...



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