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Old Nov 29, 2011 | 08:06 AM
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Negatives of having a rear sway bar

I have a rear sway bar on my car for a number of years and actually forgot what it feels like not to have one. Was considering removing it at some time. What are some of the drawbacks of having one? I read numerous advantages, but at one time, there was a thread awhile back highlighting some of the negatives but I cannot located it. Any suggestions?
Old Nov 29, 2011 | 08:13 AM
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Easy, having one prevents me from owning it.

So remove it, and ship it to me
Old Nov 29, 2011 | 08:58 AM
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Added un-sprung weight
Added binding in the rear suspension causes the ride to suffer a bit
Less feedback of when the rear end is ready to let go. Plenty of accidents document this.

Those are 3 off the top of my head.
Old Nov 29, 2011 | 10:47 AM
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I have one and love it only neg thing i would say is if you dont have one get one lol
Old Nov 29, 2011 | 11:05 AM
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I'm going to change out the bushings in the trailing arms soon. So I'll probably take it off to see how it feels.
Old Nov 29, 2011 | 11:47 AM
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negatives for a rear swar bar?? Im not sure i understand the question...
Old Nov 29, 2011 | 12:11 PM
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My passengers in the back seats did mention the suspension felt a bit stiffer (less smooth and forgiving) over bumps and highway cracks, but the positives are much greater plus I seldomly have others in the car.
Old Nov 29, 2011 | 12:26 PM
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huge difference on the curvy highway. not much on local streets.
Old Nov 29, 2011 | 01:58 PM
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The only downside I see to a rear swaybar is throttle lift oversteer if it's set up too stiff. In most cases, you can power out of throttle lift oversteer in a front drive car. It's relatively easy to figure out to do once you practice it a few times, in an open area without the risk of hitting anything.
Old Nov 29, 2011 | 03:05 PM
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i've had enough bad experiences with understeering maximas. i generally don't have too many passengers so i'd sacrifice a smoother ride for the stiffer rear.
Old Nov 29, 2011 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wirelessdude04
I have one and love it only neg thing i would say is if you dont have one get one lol
Ha luv it !
Old Nov 30, 2011 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by wirelessdude04
I have one and love it only neg thing i would say is if you dont have one get one lol
Need to get me another one....
Old Nov 30, 2011 | 05:16 PM
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ugh... sorry i have to noob out here

can someone post a pic of this installed? im curious to see where it bolts up
Old Nov 30, 2011 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by maxed_out_99
ugh... sorry i have to noob out here

can someone post a pic of this installed? im curious to see where it bolts up
http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/max...r-install.html

Installed one on my Maxima a couple months ago, not difficult really, only took about 30 mins w/ hand tools and I didn't bother with raising the rear end off the ground (stock height).
Loving the difference it made to the handling.

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Old Dec 1, 2011 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BenL
http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/max...r-install.html

Installed one on my Maxima a couple months ago, not difficult really, only took about 30 mins w/ hand tools and I didn't bother with raising the rear end off the ground (stock height).
Loving the difference it made to the handling.
Sweet! Thanks now I want one
Old Dec 3, 2011 | 05:37 PM
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I have a progress rear sway bar sitting in my warehouse for over a year. I have all the hardware for it and everything. If anyone wants it, pm me.

The difference is noticeable when you install it and remove it. It's much better to have one!!
Old Dec 3, 2011 | 05:40 PM
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I know what you mean. I took a wide left turn on a busy street when it was raining once and I was going pretty fast. It fishtailled pretty quick, but made a beauuuuutiful turn LoL Loved it
Old Dec 4, 2011 | 12:47 AM
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The negatives are few and the benefits are numerous
Old Dec 4, 2011 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by njmaxseltd
Added un-sprung weight
Added binding in the rear suspension causes the ride to suffer a bit
Less feedback of when the rear end is ready to let go. Plenty of accidents document this.

Those are 3 off the top of my head.

I'm on my 2nd 4th gen now and this time around I'm not doing the RSB. Just doing H&R, Tokicos and an FSTB.

Alot of people don't realize that the maxima has an OEM rsb built into the beam. Not only that, but the front track is wider than the rear track, promotong oversteer. When you add the aftermarket RSB, the oversteer gets too hot, even on its mildest setting.

DW
Old Dec 4, 2011 | 08:48 AM
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Many different factors have to be considered for producing a well balanced suspension on a car. Spring rates, shock rebound and compression, tire pressures, and matching tires front and rear, etc... Ask anyone that owns a high performance motorcycle or even a mountain bike about proper suspension setup. I've seen cars with improperly set up suspensions get smashed and crashed. Here's a video i found of the perfect example of that.

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Originally Posted by T_Behr904
I've seen cars with improperly set up suspensions get smashed and crashed. Here's a video i found of the perfect example of that.

No, he just can't drive, that was one of the worst acceleration+braking combinations i've seen, I knew exactly what was going to happen as soon as he took that corner and saw that car.

Should have aimed towards the outside lane while braking, instead he turned in while braking and because racecar you get oversteer and plow into that pillar.

BTW your point is very valid still... Just the video illustrates driver error.



A lot of those are due to driving, but some are suspension related (a lot of those cars are riding on stock suspenion w/ the extra weight of decoration and roll cages even though they've been gutted)

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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 12:10 PM
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Double Post? Problem?

This video is better, this illustrates slick conditons + old torn up suspension setups



The dark green Z that's a dinosaur is my friend's team btw.

Man... I really want to go back to MSR now....

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Old Dec 4, 2011 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by njmaxseltd
Added un-sprung weight
Added binding in the rear suspension causes the ride to suffer a bit
Less feedback of when the rear end is ready to let go. Plenty of accidents document this.

Those are 3 off the top of my head.
I'll agree with the first two, but I've never seen an accident attributed to a RSB in all my years on the org.

I've had my RSB on for about 3-4 years and have yet to experience any lift-throttle oversteer or less rear grip. I auto-x the bejeesus out of my car and have only had the rear end come around a little bit once in the rain but I caught it easily enough. My car feels as stable as can be, and I have the RSB set to full stiff. If anything I would like my rear end to be even stiffer to make the car more neutral.
Old Dec 4, 2011 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 95maxrider
If anything I would like my rear end to be even stiffer to make the car more neutral.
Disconnect your front sway bar you'll find plenty of oversteer.
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