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Old 01-03-2012 | 08:16 PM
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So I should be coming into some disposable income and since I am all but done with my audio(sad to say but it can only go so far and be practical) I am now moving on to the performance. Im probably going to start with the exhaust and this is what im thinking

Cat-Back http://www.importpartspro.com/mrcbsnm95.html

Exhaust headers=http://www.rsaperformance.com/obx-ex...e.html?OBX1336

What do you guys think? and what kind of hp numbers should I see? At the moment I have a modified stock intake with AEM dryflow and high quality spark plugs, synthetic oil etc. The car is well taken care of since day 1 so Im essentially stock on the go end....MOST IMPORTANTLY< I STILL NEED TO BE ABLE TO PASS EMISSION TESTS ONCE A YEAR

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So I should be coming into some disposable income and since I am all but done with my audio(sad to say but it can only go so far and be practical) I am now moving on to the performance. Im probably going to start with the exhaust and this is what im thinking

Cat-Back http://www.importpartspro.com/mrcbsnm95.html

Exhaust headers=http://www.rsaperformance.com/obx-exhaust-header-system-95-99-nissan-maxima-vq30de.html?OBX1336

What do you guys think? and what kind of hp numbers should I see? At the moment I have a modified stock intake with AEM dryflow and high quality spark plugs, synthetic oil etc. The car is well taken care of since day 1 so Im essentially stock on the go end....

Buy a y-pipe first, you will see bigger gains opposed to a catback.
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but wouldnt it add to gains by completing the cat back as well or are most of the gains seen by deleting the pre cats?
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Y-pipe is where you see most of your gain for the money. Then get yourself a nice catback to wrap it all up.
Old 01-03-2012 | 08:46 PM
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the same exhaust is on ebay for less than $200, dont do headers the gains are minimal, do a y-pipe thats the best bang for your buck
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Im def doing it all at once yea. Which cat back do you have? do you like it?
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the same exhaust is on ebay for less than $200, dont do headers the gains are minimal, do a y-pipe thats the best bang for your buck
Must be talking about this one
http://www.ebay.com/itm/95-99-MAXIMA...99879494454999

Headers vs y- pipe on a 4th dont know...
Old 01-03-2012 | 09:25 PM
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everything I read says ypipe as well first...that's what I will do if I get this 97 I'm interested in.....
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The cattman y-pipe says its not recommended for use on public roads...I still need to pass emissions every year. Does this mean I can only do a cat-back and replace the exhaust headers because I have to keep the pre-cats?

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Yes lol the y-pipe will go in. Im saying I cant see why only doing one would see the same gains in hp and torque as doing it all...
What y-pipe are you getting?
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well if I cant pass emissions then I wont be getting any y-pipe. Is this true? The Cattman website says not for use on public roads and highways meaning it wont pass emissions correct?
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well if I cant pass emissions then I wont be getting any y-pipe. Is this true? The Cattman website says not for use on public roads and highways meaning it wont pass emissions correct?
You will have to call him since he makes two versions or something like that, one keeps the pre- cats and one deletes them or something like that....
Old 01-03-2012 | 10:22 PM
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cattman only makes fed speck for later gens as per the website. I emailed him to ask to make sure. Looks like it will probably just be a cat back then. Maybe some headers but I dont know how they would fit up to the stock pre cats...
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you can get a warpspeed ypipe which has the o2 sensor bung for around $290 i believe or go on ebay and get the same ypipe with pacesetter exhaust combo for around $550-$580.
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If it doesnt have pre cats then I cant do it....
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I see that most in favor of the y pipe do not have headers
OP says he has some money to burn, so why are you pushing him to get a y pipe? Having had both, I would not say that headers only provide minimal gains.

OP get these headers instead http://www.ebay.com/itm/OBX-STAINLES...item5ae445bc5e
I've read about the headers you linked and some people have said that the y pipe needs rewelding to line up with the front header.

You can pass emissions without precats. Just make sure the car is warmed up first. The precats are only used until the main cat is warmed up and working.
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If it doesnt have pre cats then I cant do it....
look them up bro. http://warpspeedperformance.com/
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Originally Posted by schmellyfart
I see that most in favor of the y pipe do not have headers
OP says he has some money to burn, so why are you pushing him to get a y pipe? Having had both, I would not say that headers only provide minimal gains.

OP get these headers instead http://www.ebay.com/itm/OBX-STAINLES...item5ae445bc5e
I've read about the headers you linked and some people have said that the y pipe needs rewelding to line up with the front header.

You can pass emissions without precats. Just make sure the car is warmed up first. The precats are only used until the main cat is warmed up and working.

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Thats for a 35, I have a vq30. Ok so now knowing I will pass emissions with deleted pre cats, I will almost certainly go with the obx, cattman or warpspeed. I probably wont use their cat-backs though. Although the complete system from warpspeed is a good price point. Anybody have these or have heard them in person?
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Thats for a 35, I have a vq30. Ok so now knowing I will pass emissions with deleted pre cats, I will almost certainly go with the obx, cattman or warpspeed. I probably wont use their cat-backs though. Although the complete system from warpspeed is a good price point. Anybody have these or have heard them in person?
I know. They are interchangeable to an extent with regards to the EGR (either delete it or have a bung welded into the rear header. I'd go Greddy or Cattman for an exhaust.

Do they use a sniffer when you get the car emissions tested?
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yea. hook up to the obd 2 and use that lil sniffer bastard
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Cattman swears by their fitment and I like to support a company that designs parts specifically for the maxima. Ill probably be going with the entire Cattman system. I just dont want to sound like a bee hive ya dig? I want the sound to be deep unlike the ricers driving around
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bump for primetime and hopefully some good ideas
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bump. Im waiting to hear back from cattman. all but decided to go with his full system. People seems to love its quality and sound and its cheap as ***!!!
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Ok I decided to get the Cattman y-pipe and the Cattman muffler. Im not making serious HP yet so the cat back system doesn't make sense at this point. I've heard in order for the muffler to bolt up the 95-96 owners have to get a center pipe? Haven't heard back from Cattman yet so Im not sure just read it on another post here on the .org
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talkin to myself here. I guess not that many people actually have performance parts. just maximas lol
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I have a 4thgen Cattman y-pipe for sale!
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sheeeeeeit I dont want your raggety *** y-pipe son
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LOL don't worry about talkin' to yourself...start worrying when you start arguing with yourself
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sheeeeeeit I dont want your raggety *** y-pipe son
Its actually in great condition, no rust at all and the previous owner had painted it so no imperfections. Its a good product good luck with it, I'm actually unsure whether to keep mine or not since I'm going turbo but I may still keep it so I can go back N/A whenever I want.
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I was given assurances that the warpspeed Y pipe would pass emissions. I ordered the heavy metal cat to deal with the exhaust/sniffing issue althought I only get the OBDII and no sniffer. After all I don't hate the environment. I have a 99 which is allegedly the worst one to have (4 O2 sensors all before the main cat). I am still waiting on delivery so I will be doing header back with a stillen cat back exhaust. Once I get it, I will report back and let you know how it went. The only other thing I need to order is a resonator. I have been told the stillen is a bit loud.
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I was given assurances that the warpspeed Y pipe would pass emissions. I ordered the heavy metal cat to deal with the exhaust/sniffing issue althought I only get the OBDII and no sniffer. After all I don't hate the environment. I have a 99 which is allegedly the worst one to have (4 O2 sensors all before the main cat). I am still waiting on delivery so I will be doing header back with a stillen cat back exhaust. Once I get it, I will report back and let you know how it went. The only other thing I need to order is a resonator. I have been told the stillen is a bit loud.
You must be buying that STILLEN'S exhausrlt off somebody since he doesn't make them anymore only when the car comes out but after a while he wont make em anymore for that year.....
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You must be buying that STILLEN'S exhausrlt off somebody since he doesn't make them anymore only when the car comes out but after a while he wont make em anymore for that year.....
Yep I bought them off a guy who bought it for his car and then sold the car before he could install.
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Originally Posted by 2000_MAXIMA_KING
Its actually in great condition, no rust at all and the previous owner had painted it so no imperfections. Its a good product good luck with it, I'm actually unsure whether to keep mine or not since I'm going turbo but I may still keep it so I can go back N/A whenever I want.
I was just playin man. How much you want for it? Where do you live?
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1.) Headers are > than y-pipes for A32’s, gains and in the price world ever since newer, more affordable headers have been coming out. I too used to say the same thing about y-pipes> headers, but have since eaten my words, puked them out, here they are.
2.) Headers will gave a solid, repeatable 20fwhp over stock manifolds, this cannot be said for a y-pipe. So, if Maximum power is what you seek, get headers. If I knew then what I know now, I would have headers on my A32.
3.) The headers on my 03 VQ35 are for a VQ30, modified to fit a VQ35, so, with some slight modification, the opposite can be done (EGR bung on rear manifold is the only difference, I had to plug mine, you would add one, or find A32 headers that are affordable in your price range, and buy them).
4.) As has been seen in the past, if the vehicle is allowed to come up to operating temperature, there are pretty good odds, it will pass even with headers, as long as you have a cat (the main cat) in place.
5.) Stock 5th gen cat-back exhaust can support up to 250 fwhp, case in point, if you use your stock cat-back, and add a 5th gen muffler, it’s nearly identical. Depends on how much power you want.
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Got to it before me... lol


Originally Posted by NmexMAX
1.) Headers are > than y-pipes for A32’s, gains and in the price world ever since newer, more affordable headers have been coming out. I too used to say the same thing about y-pipes> headers, but have since eaten my words, puked them out, here they are.
2.) Headers will gave a solid, repeatable 20fwhp over stock manifolds, this cannot be said for a y-pipe. So, if Maximum power is what you seek, get headers. If I knew then what I know now, I would have headers on my A32.
3.) The headers on my 03 VQ35 are for a VQ30, modified to fit a VQ35, so, with some slight modification, the opposite can be done (EGR bung on rear manifold is the only difference, I had to plug mine, you would add one, or find A32 headers that are affordable in your price range, and buy them).
4.) As has been seen in the past, if the vehicle is allowed to come up to operating temperature, there are pretty good odds, it will pass even with headers, as long as you have a cat (the main cat) in place.
5.) Stock 5th gen cat-back exhaust can support up to 250 fwhp, case in point, if you use your stock cat-back, and add a 5th gen muffler, it’s nearly identical. Depends on how much power you want.
co-signed.

Wether it be 4th or 5th gen, If sound is a priority, get headers first. Headers with a stock catback (or 5th gen muffler for that matter) sounds awesome and actually makes power.

Aside from that, I say you should take care of the suspension before you get into the bolt ons. If I could do it all over again, I would do;
  1. Coilovers
  2. Headers
  3. intake
  4. cattback
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sheeeeeeit I dont want your raggety *** y-pipe son
hopefully you know that you cant get a cattman ypipe new anymore tho.
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****, I want headers now.







nvm vq35.
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If I could do it all over again, I would do;
  1. Coilovers
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  3. intake
  4. cattback
I totally agree. Sad thing is I did it completely opposite aside from the I before catback and of course insert y pipe for headers.


I'm even worse off since I had a 1st gen Stillen Y, scrapped it for a WSP. Those 2 purchases could have easily gone to headers and should have. Even more proof and how much I regret my decision and stand by my word.


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