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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 01:45 PM
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Fan question????

It's twice now while driving on the highway I noticed my temp gauge rise above the half mark. I kicked in max heat to drop temp back to below half. While on small streets, the temp gauge is okay. I've replaced the thermostat last week because it happened a few days prior to replacement. Today I idled the motor for 15min to get any bubbles out and noticed the heat was not hot. Gave it gas and heat kicked in and stayed hot. Also noticed the fan did not kick on. Played with the fan controls and noticed that only in defrost that the fan will kick in. All other settings such as feet, face/feet, face, defrost/feet will not trigger the fan. Is this normal or do I have a problem? Thanks.
Old Jan 10, 2012 | 01:51 PM
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You probably need a new heater control switch. I say that because if it only works in the one position to me that indicates a bad switch.
Old Jan 10, 2012 | 02:02 PM
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When you say defrost what you mean is the radiator fans only run when the AC compressor is on. Defrost mode automatically engages the AC compressor.

You should replace the temp sensor for the ECU. There are 2 temp senors. The other one is for the temp gage in the cluster.

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Old Jan 10, 2012 | 03:14 PM
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Thanks. I will look at the Manual and get this temp sensor replaced. I'll start with the Coolant temp sensor for the ECU. Thanks for all the help. Will post results to see what I find.
Old Jan 10, 2012 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxgig
You probably need a new heater control switch. I say that because if it only works in the one position to me that indicates a bad switch.
I have the manual controls. And as what DW said, switching to Defrost will engage the AC and kick the fan on. It may be a bad switch or temp sensor. Heat blows from all controls when each is activated. Just trying to figure out why the fan does not kick on even after 15mins of warm-up.
Old Jan 10, 2012 | 03:46 PM
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ects is prolly your problem last summer i had a issue of the gauge going over half way and the sensor was new replace with another one and problem stopped try that
Old Jan 10, 2012 | 06:16 PM
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I too have a question "fan question." I just recently replaced the alternator in my 95, and to do that I removed the radiator along with the fan attached to it. I never really looked at the fans before, but are they supposed to run all the time when the car runs, or just intermittently when the car needs em?

I just started the car after putting everything back together and have not seen the fans run yet. Got a little worried, so I shut it down and came to ask the pros here.
Old Jan 10, 2012 | 06:34 PM
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....I never really looked at the fans before, but are they supposed to run all the time when the car runs, or just intermittently when the car needs em?
The radiator fans only operate when the coolant gets above 200f or when the AC compressor is operating. As stated earlier the AC compressor operates when either the AC or defroster is turned on.

To check if the fans are working turn on your AC or defroster.
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 05:23 AM
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Don't just replace the ect measure it with a simple ohm meter to see if that's indeed your problem. Easy to do any might save you the expense and work to replace a part that isn't causing your issue. Search on here for a table of the resistance values.

That would be working smart, not blindly.
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 06:33 AM
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Drak, the fan will run when the engine reaches a certain temp, so it's ok that the came did come on when you just started up. It's also winter so the engine will run cooler
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 06:36 AM
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Drak, the fan will run when the engine reaches a certain temp, so it's ok that the came did come on when you just started up. It's also winter so the engine will run cooler
Meant to say it's ok that the fan didn't come on when you just started up. Mine doesn't either
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by drakkan
I too have a question "fan question." I just recently replaced the alternator in my 95, and to do that I removed the radiator along with the fan attached to it. I never really looked at the fans before, but are they supposed to run all the time when the car runs, or just intermittently when the car needs em?

I just started the car after putting everything back together and have not seen the fans run yet. Got a little worried, so I shut it down and came to ask the pros here.
why'd you remove the radiator to replace the alternator? definitely an unnecessary step.
Old Jan 11, 2012 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by tcf_dk
It's twice now while driving on the highway I noticed my temp gauge rise above the half mark. I kicked in max heat to drop temp back to below half. While on small streets, the temp gauge is okay. I've replaced the thermostat last week because it happened a few days prior to replacement. Today I idled the motor for 15min to get any bubbles out and noticed the heat was not hot. Gave it gas and heat kicked in and stayed hot. Also noticed the fan did not kick on. Played with the fan controls and noticed that only in defrost that the fan will kick in. All other settings such as feet, face/feet, face, defrost/feet will not trigger the fan. Is this normal or do I have a problem? Thanks.
I don't think that you have all the air out of the engine. Have the front end of the car elevated, either parked on an uphill incline or car ramps and and idle it with the radiator cap off.
Old Jan 13, 2012 | 04:04 PM
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Oh cool, thanks guys! So far the engine temp in my car hasn't gone too high or anything, so far it all seems good.

WesCTR: Maybe, but this was my first time delving into it. I had to unscrew the compressor and lower it, and thought it would just give me more room to work and get my hands in there. The space is kinda cramp down there as you know.

Also had a little confusion with the spacer that comes on the alternator in one of the mounting ears, but that should probably saved for a different thread (although I don't have permissions to start a new thread yet).
Old Jan 21, 2012 | 01:54 PM
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I don't think that you have all the air out of the engine. Have the front end of the car elevated, either parked on an uphill incline or car ramps and and idle it with the radiator cap off.
Last couple days the engine temp climbs fast from startup to operating level which is below the middle. When gas applied, heat gets hot. When idle, heat goes warm or cool/cold. Should I replace Autozone tstat with OEM tstat? Waterpump?
Old Jan 21, 2012 | 03:33 PM
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OEM thermostat. I bet the OEM tstat looks way beefier than the autozone one you have.

No way its the water pump. The water pump only fails by leaking.

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Old Jan 21, 2012 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tcf_dk
Last couple days the engine temp climbs fast from startup to operating level which is below the middle. When gas applied, heat gets hot. When idle, heat goes warm or cool/cold. Should I replace Autozone tstat with OEM tstat? Waterpump?
still have air in the system
Old Jan 21, 2012 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tcf_dk
Last couple days the engine temp climbs fast from startup to operating level which is below the middle. When gas applied, heat gets hot. When idle, heat goes warm or cool/cold. Should I replace Autozone tstat with OEM tstat? Waterpump?
I still think air in the system is your problem. My second guess is that the impeller blades on the water pump have corroded off. The thermostat comes in at guess # 10 or 11.
Old Jan 22, 2012 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by DennisMik
......My second guess is that the impeller blades on the water pump have corroded off......

Whoah. Does that like even happen on Maximas?

The water pump unit is a pretty tough all steel/aluminum unit. It's chain driven so it's got hot motor oil running on one side of it with hot anti-freeze on the other. The fluids never mix until the water pump gasket starts to slowly fail.

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Old Jan 22, 2012 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dwapenyi
Whoah. Does that like even happen on Maximas?

The water pump unit is a pretty tough all steel/aluminum unit. It's chain driven so it's got hot motor oil running on one side of it with hot anti-freeze on the other. The fluids never mix until the water pump gasket starts to slowly fail.

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Yes it does. Someone posted side by side pics of his old, original water pump and the new one. I don't remember who it was. It was an answer to someone with a overheating problem.
Old Jan 22, 2012 | 02:37 PM
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Yes it does. Someone posted side by side pics of his old, original water pump and the new one. I don't remember who it was. It was an answer to someone with a overheating problem.
That must be rare and may be due to extreme neglect with anti freeze on someones maxima.

I mean sheesh. That's bad.

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