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Old Jan 4, 2002 | 12:50 PM
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Just sanded and primed my front lip...need some help !!!!!

I went to the body shop and the guy told me $65 to paint it. Well he said I was better off doing it myself becuase the paint they have will crack when the lip flex's blah blah blah. So I sanded the lip down and just primed it dull black. well everything looks a-ok now, but heres the thing:

I picked up 2 cans of plasti-cote glossy black touch up paint (Import black). I test sprayed them both on a sheet of paper and they spray blotchy as HELL!! It would look like blotchy SHlT.

What do I do ?? I know if I paint it the stupid paint will come out all blotchy and crap. The cans are small. Maybe a big can that way it sprays better?! Help quick please.
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Re: Just sanded and primed my front lip...need some help !!!!!

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I went to the body shop and the guy told me $65 to paint it. Well he said I was better off doing it myself becuase the paint they have will crack when the lip flex's blah blah blah. So I sanded the lip down and just primed it dull black. well everything looks a-ok now, but heres the thing:

I picked up 2 cans of plasti-cote glossy black touch up paint (Import black). I test sprayed them both on a sheet of paper and they spray blotchy as HELL!! It would look like blotchy SHlT.

What do I do ?? I know if I paint it the stupid paint will come out all blotchy and crap. The cans are small. Maybe a big can that way it sprays better?! Help quick please.
Is the spray nozzle clear? When spraying before my tip had some plastic piece that was tiny but not cut right from the factory causing the sme thing. I picked it off and it went fine.

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Old Jan 4, 2002 | 12:55 PM
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Is the spray nozzle clear? When spraying before my tip had some plastic piece that was tiny but not cut right from the factory causing the sme thing. I picked it off and it went fine.

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brb I will check that real quick...
Old Jan 4, 2002 | 01:01 PM
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Nope, the srayer is all good. It's ALRIGHT but when it sprays sometimes it drips and it sprays in kinda big peices. I sprayed the sheet and it was all blotchy, but when it dried it looked pretty good. But I don't wanna risk it on my front lip.

What kinda paint did you use ? It seems the sprayer is too small to be good.

In fact, I just sprayed again and it dripped like a motha...Is their anything else I can use besides that little can of touch up?
Old Jan 4, 2002 | 01:09 PM
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Re: Just sanded and primed my front lip...need some help !!!!!

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I went to the body shop and the guy told me $65 to paint it. Well he said I was better off doing it myself becuase the paint they have will crack when the lip flex's blah blah blah. So I sanded the lip down and just primed it dull black. well everything looks a-ok now, but heres the thing:

I picked up 2 cans of plasti-cote glossy black touch up paint (Import black). I test sprayed them both on a sheet of paper and they spray blotchy as HELL!! It would look like blotchy SHlT.

What do I do ?? I know if I paint it the stupid paint will come out all blotchy and crap. The cans are small. Maybe a big can that way it sprays better?! Help quick please.
I thought most competent body shops know they have to use a flex agent when painting on urethane. If you do it yourself you risk the same thing, cracking. But if you have it done right it shouldn't crack under minor flexing.
Old Jan 4, 2002 | 01:12 PM
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I thought most competent body shops know they have to use a flex agent when painting on urethane. If you do it yourself you risk the same thing, cracking. But if you have it done right it shouldn't crack under minor flexing.
Yup he told me all about that, but he said it would be alot cheeper just to do it myself becuase it would be like as good. I am just stuck now on what good paint to use since the cans I bought are blotchy 'peices.
Old Jan 4, 2002 | 01:14 PM
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bottle size doesnt matter, the nozzle does, however make sure you spray from far enough away so it doesnt get too much on there
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Okay, one of two things are happening.
1) The nozzles are dirty/clogged and need to be cleaned. Try holding the can upside down and then spray. It should spray for a bit then stop. Turn it back over and then try it again. If it's still bad, then pull the nozzle off and use some lacquer thinner to clean the tips.

2) You have no idea how to spray.

From the posts, I can't tell which it is.
Old Jan 4, 2002 | 01:17 PM
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bottle size doesnt matter, the nozzle does, however make sure you spray from far enough away so it doesnt get too much on there
I know I know. And the nozzle size is puny. What good glossy black spray paint can you guys recommend ?
Old Jan 4, 2002 | 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
Okay, one of two things are happening.
1) The nozzles are dirty/clogged and need to be cleaned. Try holding the can upside down and then spray. It should spray for a bit then stop. Turn it back over and then try it again. If it's still bad, then pull the nozzle off and use some lacquer thinner to clean the tips.

2) You have no idea how to spray.

From the posts, I can't tell which it is.
Well jeffrey I managed to prime it nice and smoothly. I will try what jOo reccomend but I have a feelin' i'll need a better bottle (bigger nozzle)
Old Jan 4, 2002 | 01:20 PM
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i wouldnt use spray paint to paint any part of the body of a car personally, id pay the $65 or get some actual oem paint to do it, get it blended real good, and use a canister meant for painting cars, no spray paint
Old Jan 4, 2002 | 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by RedMax95
i wouldnt use spray paint to paint any part of the body of a car personally, id pay the $65 or get some actual oem paint to do it, get it blended real good, and use a canister meant for painting cars, no spray paint
well its plasti-cote and its ment for cars. And he told me to do it this way. Now I am in a bind
Old Jan 4, 2002 | 01:27 PM
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You used Plasti-Cote and you at me? LOL.

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well its plasti-cote and its ment for cars. And he told me to do it this way. Now I am in a bind
Old Jan 4, 2002 | 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
You used Plasti-Cote and you at me? LOL.

NO I used different primer and was GOING to use plasti-coat as the finish glossy coat set of paint. Well I didn't hear you recommend anything better.
Old Jan 4, 2002 | 01:37 PM
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Question is, what's NOT better?

Okay... Buy some enamel+some flex agent + some hardener. Mix it with some reducer and spray it on w/ an automative paint gun. Make sure to use an OSHA approved mask as this stuff is pretty nasty. Oh and sand off all the spray can primer and use catylized primer. It's much better. I think you can use the flex agent it that also.

How's that?

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NO I used different primer and was GOING to use plasti-coat as the finish glossy coat set of paint. Well I didn't hear you recommend anything better.
Old Jan 4, 2002 | 01:57 PM
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now thats more like it
Old Jan 4, 2002 | 02:28 PM
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Craig...

Why don't you try another body shop? You realize it will never match your car? It must be worth the extra money to get a professional to do it if 99% of Maxima.Org members (if not 100%) did it that way. I know you're excited and want a lip on your car, but isn't it worth the wait to do it the right way?
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Old Jan 4, 2002 | 09:06 PM
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Re: Craig...

ya, all body/paint work of mine is done by an excellent shop, ive installed every single mod on my car except the bumper conversion and spoiler, for the above reason
Old Jan 4, 2002 | 09:39 PM
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I sprayed my front lip myself and it came out fantastic. I would ONLY recomment doing this on a black car however, anything else and you would be able to tell for sure. Anyway - go to Home Depot (if there's one in your area... if not try a paint store). Rustoleum makes a good spraypaint called "Painters Touch" I used this in Gloss Black and followed up with several coats of painters touch clear coat. Looks great. Seriously, don't sweat the flex agents. You're gonna scrape your car anyway... after a year take it off and respray it for $2.99. =)

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Originally posted by CKNY
I sprayed my front lip myself and it came out fantastic. I would ONLY recomment doing this on a black car however, anything else and you would be able to tell for sure. Anyway - go to Home Depot (if there's one in your area... if not try a paint store). Rustoleum makes a good spraypaint called "Painters Touch" I used this in Gloss Black and followed up with several coats of painters touch clear coat. Looks great. Seriously, don't sweat the flex agents. You're gonna scrape your car anyway... after a year take it off and respray it for $2.99. =)

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seriously

I remember Deezo got some paint for this kind of stuff to do yourself....

To paint my grille, I just got a can of some flat black spray paint, for bumper and molding trim (flexible) and sprayed it with a few coats.. It has been 2 months + and all I have is a few tiny tiny chips, but I didn't even use a clear coat... it was just dull black.. I will definately attempt to paint the front lip my self, (if I get one)
Old Jan 5, 2002 | 01:46 AM
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Yup he told me all about that, but he said it would be alot cheeper just to do it myself becuase it would be like as good. I am just stuck now on what good paint to use since the cans I bought are blotchy 'peices.
How much cheaper are we talking?? I think you should reconsider being frugal on this job. If you F#%K it up, it's goin to cost you more to redo it all over again. don't be a cheap @ss
Old Jan 5, 2002 | 10:45 AM
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How much cheaper are we talking?? I think you should reconsider being frugal on this job. If you F#%K it up, it's goin to cost you more to redo it all over again. don't be a cheap @ss
Well he's the one who told me to do it myself in the first place !

If I get the right gloss paint, and a steady hand, it should come out just as good. My car is black too so It should be easy.
Old Jan 5, 2002 | 10:46 AM
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I sprayed my front lip myself and it came out fantastic. I would ONLY recomment doing this on a black car however, anything else and you would be able to tell for sure. Anyway - go to Home Depot (if there's one in your area... if not try a paint store). Rustoleum makes a good spraypaint called "Painters Touch" I used this in Gloss Black and followed up with several coats of painters touch clear coat. Looks great. Seriously, don't sweat the flex agents. You're gonna scrape your car anyway... after a year take it off and respray it for $2.99. =)

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Well he's the one who told me to do it myself in the first place !
Go to another place. Just saying "I just spray-painted my front lip" is the most riceboy thing I have ever heard. Well, besides "I just spray-painted my whole car."
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Old Jan 5, 2002 | 11:13 AM
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Paintscratch.com carries the paint you need. A lot of body shops buy paint from them since they have really good matches for just about every make and model. On the checkout, select the flex agent for free and do the painting yourself. I'm about to do the same.
Old Jan 5, 2002 | 11:15 AM
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Paintscratch.com carries the paint you need. A lot of body shops buy paint from them since they have really good matches for just about every make and model. On the checkout, select the flex agent for free and do the painting yourself. I'm about to do the same.
Yea but I want mine done ASAP for school ! Gotta look fly.

Vyrus, buddy, Whats the big deal if the paint is quality spray black gloss ? If the lip is primed and what-not then it should look sweet. Riceboy my *** foo.
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Craig, Craig, Craig... :sigh because you don't understand:

If you don't have the money to do it, don't do it. Body shops don't use spray paint, and their layers are much thinner than yours will be, but just as strong. It won't match as well as if you spend the extra $$$ and get them to do it. Let me ask you a question: If you scraped your bumper and bought a new one, would you paint that? Your lip should be just as important. Its one thing to paint a bumper yourself because you don't have the money, but its trash to spend the money to buy a body kit (or just lip) yet not spend the money to paint it. Think of all the really hot Maximas, and name five of them whose owner painted the kit themselves. Don't try to impress your little friend with something that won't last. Show them something you don't have to worry about. Its up to you.
Just trying to help,
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Old Jan 5, 2002 | 11:27 AM
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If you don't have the money to do it, don't do it. Body shops don't use spray paint, and their layers are much thinner than yours will be, but just as strong. It won't match as well as if you spend the extra $$$ and get them to do it. Let me ask you a question: If you scraped your bumper and bought a new one, would you paint that? Your lip should be just as important. Its one thing to paint a bumper yourself because you don't have the money, but its trash to spend the money to buy a body kit (or just lip) yet not spend the money to paint it. Think of all the really hot Maximas, and name five of them whose owner painted the kit themselves. Don't try to impress your little friend with something that won't last. Show them something you don't have to worry about. Its up to you.
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Old Jan 5, 2002 | 01:47 PM
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Re: Craig, Craig, Craig... :sigh because you don't understand:

Originally posted by Vyrus
If you don't have the money to do it, don't do it. Body shops don't use spray paint, and their layers are much thinner than yours will be, but just as strong. It won't match as well as if you spend the extra $$$ and get them to do it. Let me ask you a question: If you scraped your bumper and bought a new one, would you paint that? Your lip should be just as important. Its one thing to paint a bumper yourself because you don't have the money, but its trash to spend the money to buy a body kit (or just lip) yet not spend the money to paint it. Think of all the really hot Maximas, and name five of them whose owner painted the kit themselves. Don't try to impress your little friend with something that won't last. Show them something you don't have to worry about. Its up to you.
Just trying to help,
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I understand ur point but the thing is ur bumper is on the life of your car, it hardly gets scraped unless it really REALLY low so therefore painted it professionally is well worth the money. But with a lip the chances of damage are 10 fold, espcially with lowered cars. So the life of lips are far shorter. So if I had to buy lips over and over or had to pain them over and over i would opt to find a cheaper way to paint it.

personally i think i would get it painted the first time, and if minor blemishes keep poping up i think it would be something i took care of myself
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Re: Craig, Craig, Craig... :sigh because you don't understand:

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If you don't have the money to do it, don't do it. Body shops don't use spray paint, and their layers are much thinner than yours will be, but just as strong. It won't match as well as if you spend the extra $$$ and get them to do it. Let me ask you a question: If you scraped your bumper and bought a new one, would you paint that? Your lip should be just as important. Its one thing to paint a bumper yourself because you don't have the money, but its trash to spend the money to buy a body kit (or just lip) yet not spend the money to paint it. Think of all the really hot Maximas, and name five of them whose owner painted the kit themselves. Don't try to impress your little friend with something that won't last. Show them something you don't have to worry about. Its up to you.
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It's different.

The bumper is a huge area to paint. I would never think about spraying that. But the lip is very small... it's not so large that you can't cover it with one or two strokes so there's no need to make sure the paint is even. Seriously, with a black car you CAN NOT TELL. It comes out fine. You don't have a black max and you haven't done it so I don't think you should be commenting to him on it. No, it wouldn't work with a red maxima. But it does work with a black one. I've done it. It looks great. If I brought my max to a meet you wouldn't be able to tell. Let the man get to work and save some $$$ and buy new bulbs or something.
Old Jan 5, 2002 | 05:23 PM
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It's different.

The bumper is a huge area to paint. I would never think about spraying that. But the lip is very small... it's not so large that you can't cover it with one or two strokes so there's no need to make sure the paint is even. Seriously, with a black car you CAN NOT TELL. It comes out fine. You don't have a black max and you haven't done it so I don't think you should be commenting to him on it. No, it wouldn't work with a red maxima. But it does work with a black one. I've done it. It looks great. If I brought my max to a meet you wouldn't be able to tell. Let the man get to work and save some $$$ and buy new bulbs or something.
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Well he's the one who told me to do it myself in the first place !

If I get the right gloss paint, and a steady hand, it should come out just as good. My car is black too so It should be easy.
Hey, when you complete the job , I'd like to see a pic of the finished product.
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smart words, from a smart man
How come you didn't call me smart, I said the same thing in different words.
Old Jan 5, 2002 | 08:11 PM
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How come you didn't call me smart, I said the same thing in different words.
Oh so you want a too ? Well there ya go.

Will do on the finished project.

BTW I was bein sarcastic, Vyrus aint smart at all
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Craig, Craig, Craig... :sigh because you don't understand:

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BTW I was bein sarcastic, Vyrus aint smart at all
Actually wait...that doesn't mean anything coming from someone who spray-paints their car!
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Old Jan 5, 2002 | 08:41 PM
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:bawing: Actually wait...that doesn't mean anything coming from someone who spray-paints their car! :kis:
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My car is black. A color that can EASILY be matched to look good w/o having to take to a pro. Maybe if I had some woman color like ruby then i would have to take it in since its so rare and what not
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Craig, Craig, Craig... :sigh because you don't understand:

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Maybe if I had some woman color like ruby then i would have to take it in since its so rare and what not
dont bring me into this
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