For some months, my 98 Max has been sputtering, classic symptoms of couple of earlier ignition coil changes. Funny thing is, coil deterioration is happening a lot slower, using when these symptoms start, it gradually becomes more pronounced.

That said, I now have a 02-13 code on the OBC, and with some googling, it might be coil related, and also to check the hose running all the way back from the rear driver side. Haven't checked the hose.


I'm tempted to replace the EVAP.

But the question is maybe the 02-13 could also be coil related?

 

0213 has nothing to do with coils. See this link for 0213 http://boredmder.com/ecucodes/index....Y1998&DTC=0213

Not sure where you found that 0213 refers to coils at all

Are your MAF, TB and IACV clean?? Have you changed your coils ever? If yes, did you use OEM Nissan or just some ones from a parts store?

 

Yeah I got that page from the FSM posted on this site.

MAF and TB were cleaned by me last summer, but not the IACV.

Maybe check the hoses first.

I've had two coils replaced and quite certain they were OEM.

 

Finally realized the control system is behind the left wheel, wow, lotsa rust there. Don't see a cracked cannister nor leaking hose. Maybe the sensor or valve.



Not sure which is the fresh air vent.

Before I start changing part by part, maybe a mechanic can isolate a leak or blockage?

This is strange? canister evap purge valve, a search says its near the cannister, some say near the TB, the part I see is the same as
near the TB on my Max

 

The canister purge valve is right on the canister behind the driver side rear wheel...it is held on by 2 10mm bolts. In the above pic, it is labeled evap vent control valve.

 

I've seen pictures of EVAP purge valve, and it looks 100% the same as that which is bolted right next to rear right (facing car) spark plug area.

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php

 

People seem to confuse the names of the two different valves quite a bit...iirc you are right that the "evap purge valve" is under the hood..but your post said "evap CANISTER purge valve" which would be on the canister. I can't remember the exact name of e one under the hood at this time though.

 

the one under the hood, must be related to problem issue, will try a cleaning first.

 

^^^good chance of it. I googled and found this for you...not sure if you have seen it but I think it relates to cleaning the valve. I did not read the whole thing but it may help.
http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generat...alve-pics.html

 

Check all the little hoses and valves on the bracket in front of the cannister very carefully. On mine, one of the nipples had cracked, but the short hose held it in position so it looked OK. Finally just bought the whole bracket assembly with parts at Pull-A-Part and replaced the whole thing. It has worked fine for a couple of years now.

 

You essentially got all the parts in that picture? That whole area is rusted to hell , try getting off the bolt securing the cannister.

 

I just checked the evap purge valve under the hood and the #5 ignition coil right close by, and now have a really rough idle and a 0201 P1320 code.


Code Description Ignition Signal

Code: P1320 | Description: Ignition Signal

the connecter in valve purge is seated properly as well as the connector to the ignition coil.

the connector to the valve purge is secured by a tie wrap on, after some mechanic while servicing the #5 spark plug, wrecked the purge valve connector, but this solution has worked.

All secure and in place

 

Update: checked the ignition coil electrical connector, and plug 1 was bent.

All's well and I'm proof of Murphy's Law

 

Don't have an air compressor, so maybe parts change from wreckers

 

Yep, all mine came from Pull-a-Part - the advantage of living far enough south that we don't have all the rust and corrosion issues y'all have. I come from Vermont originally, so I feel your pain!

 

Went to a wreckers yard and found only one 4th gen max, a 1996 (took VIN and called dealer) and many 5th gens. Hmm.

Anyways, for the whole fuel emisson system, with canister valves and hoses, the guy quoted me a low end as he said of $50.

The question is, maybe i'd be better to swap parts from a newer 5th gen?

The FSM does say the diagrams refer also to 95-03 Sentras, 00 to 03 Maxs and similar year pathfinder, 240SX and Quest.

 

So would the EVAP control system, with cannister etc, is probably the same on 5th generation maximas (2000-2003), so I could grab these newer parts?

 

no response, yet

 

Yeah man. I mean if the newer years will fit, why not get newer ones? Kinda sounds like a no brainer to me. Just do some cross referencing to make sure they are the same...check part numbers etc or the jy should be able to tell you.

 

Sweated for an hour in a jd this morn, paid $50 for the parts and as I left the jd, the service engine went off, just after I paid $50 for the parts.

Interesting, the light came on three weeks ago, when I made a sharp maneuver in a parking lot, and I remember I did make a sharp maneuver this morning driving to the jd.

Unreal.

 

Mine is on right now, but i know it has gone off before. I am willing to bet yours will come back eventually if you don't do the swap.

 

Even a call to the dealer saying the cannister assembly is the same up to 2000 year model, this part I got is different than the 4th gen max.

I swapped one off a 96 model.

Now those rusted bolts.....


The story to be continued.

 

well I assumed that the purge valve was the problem, even though I obtained
the whole cannister assembly from jy, I finally changed the purge valve for starters and the check engine light is gone. Well after I cleared code.


Edit: I actually changed the Vacuum cut bypass valve, not the purge valve, thats' in the engine compartment.

Looks light I need to take to mechanic, change cannister with my jy one, and clean out hoses.

 

OK the exact 0213 code says "EVAP system small leak".

Probably need to take to shop that can test the system for leaks with an EVAP/smoke machine.

And this usually means $tealerShip.