I have nothing against Hondas whether Accords or Civics or Integras,...but the Maxima rips them all in any drag race. Now here's my question,...why does everyone buy Civics, Accords and Integras when they're not very impressive. I'm going nuts I've had my car for 6months, and almost nobody makes aftermarket products for our cars (anyone found body kits from anyone besides stillen lately)and what you do find is outrageously expensive in comparison with the Honda's. Anyway I'd buy my car all over again. She's a badass car.

 

First all of, Civic's are cheaper, more obtainable for entry driver.
Second, Maxima is sedan, some people don't need 4 drs so they might find Civic/Integra coupe more sporty looking/feeling.
Third, Honda is more moddable. You can easily put a turbo on those 4 banger and run 13's all day, plus their drivetrain can hold the extra HP well.

 

Actually, Erebuni makes a body kit for the 4th gen Max for bout $760.

 

Well, the Honda/Acura cars do have nicer suspensions as well... Honda/Acura use 4 wheel independent wishbone suspension while the Maxima has just MacPherson struts up front and a heavy beam axle in back...

The Maxima may have a good torque-to-mass ratio (it is torque that accelerates the car... not horesepower) but that is about all it has over the Honda/Acura cars... Hondas and Acuras are much lighter and have lower centers of gravity so their handling will be superior...

 

Because of the heavy competition among aftermarket companies, the Honda parts are so cheap. Everyone and his granny makes parts for the Hondas, so they gotta keep them cheap in order to sell some. When it comes to Max parts, there's Stillen, JWT, Cattman, HKS, Unorthodox, Greedy...oops, Greddy, and very few if any, others.

 

and if there is modds available for a maxima..they are e-x-p-e-n-s-i-v-e....

 

i personally think ppl buy hondas because all there friends have them and all these ppl need to be like there friends and copy everything they do which i think is so friggin lame ,, as for modding them the only way to get them fast is to put a turbo on them and even then they are still slow and have no torque i personally am sick of seeing all these dumbass with all the stupid rice boy crap and there stupid sounding fart mufflers funny how nissans dont need stickers to make us look cool

 

Who are you kiddig?
1) We don't copy everything?? $hit, go to a Maxima meeting, all of them basicly have the same $hit.
2) With a turbo and tricks, Civic''s run 13's all day, they are more moddable than Maxima.
3) Nissan owners also put stickers on cars like Honda owners do, it's not just a Civic thing. I see Sentra/200SX/Altima?Maxima with stickers all the time.

 

when i went to maxus last year in dallas the whole parking lot at the hotel was the same as my car......i think that most of it is simply because we don't have the selection and variety that a civic drive has.....cai....cattman, body kit....stillen or erubuni, simply put, there is just a lack of mods available for our rides.

 

theyre all just VERY similar. but we maxima folk are attention-to-details kinda people. its them lil details that we aprreciate and sets our maximas apart. =P

 

1. i am not talking about us copying mods im talking about them buying the car just cause there friends have one..
2.Yes there are more mods available
3. I dont see that many stickers on nissans every honda i see has a darn SI on the back of it

 

but i see honda's that are nice with fuzzy stuff in them too..
they only reason why they have so many mods in the market for them is because of the asian market. they don't sell 'maxima's there. but the smaller honda civic,integra's are in abundance. only our i30 brother cefiro which is considered a heavy big engined and ugly mid classed luxury is available there =(
I've read a european magazine once and they had something written about the maxima...we were dissed left and right.
Vic

 

Yes they have a better handling platform from the beginning. As for our <i>heavy beam axle</i>, from what I understand the beam axle is lighter, simpler, and cheaper. Not that I'm a fan of it, just some clarification.

We don't have much aftermarket support, so most people have CAI, or pop charger, Y pipe, rims of choice (borbet E's) and lowering springs. What other options are there? Not many, perhaps a supercharger and some tint. There now you're ready for the Maxima meet.

The only reason they are more moddable is because they have more aftermarket support. I'd bet if you toss in a <i>turbo and tricks</i> into a max it would haul. Btw... Tricks are for kids.

For example look what they did with the VQ for the 5th gens. They bumped the power up 32 hp with simple modification. I'd bet this engine NA is capable of 300 hp. Toss a turbo on that and the max would easily do 13's, plus have room for granny.

The reason we don't see as many is because they aren't as popular of car. Thank goodness, I perfer to leave the mall and know which car is mine.

"I think that's my car over there. Nope that's just a shopping cart, Damn."

Have a good day y'all

 

Come on now. There isn't that much that a honda can do to their ride that we can't do to ours with the exception of turbo kits and complete engine rebuilds. They just have more companies to choose from. In my area, most people follow these guidelines...

1. buy a civic
2. replace lights with stobes/lexus tails
3. cut the springs
4. add home made cai
5. put on a high pitch exhaust with 5" tip
6. put 2 new rims in back & stock black painted rims in front
7. buy a body kit
8. (optional) paint kit to match car
9. (optional) paint entire car some color from a bag of Easter M&M's


Don't misunderstand me. I don't have anything against civics per say, I have owned one before (no mods). There are even a few that I have liked. But the run of the mill civic here is all show & no go!


Maxima guide lines...

1. order something from Stealin
2. vow never order from them again
3. add intake
4. add exhaust
5. lower car properly with new springs
6. 4 new rims & tires
7. aquire taste for civics at red lights

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by machavez702
Come on now. There isn't that much that a honda can do to their ride that we can't do to ours with the exception of turbo kits and complete engine rebuilds. They just have more companies to choose from. In my area, most people follow these guidelines...

1. buy a civic
2. replace lights with stobes/lexus tails
3. cut the springs
4. add home made cai
5. put on a high pitch exhaust with 5" tip
6. put 2 new rims in back & stock black painted rims in front
7. buy a body kit
8. (optional) paint kit to match car
9. (optional) paint entire car some color from a bag of Easter M&M's


Don't misunderstand me. I don't have anything against civics per say, I have owned one before (no mods). There are even a few that I have liked. But the run of the mill civic here is all show & no go!


Maxima guide lines...

1. order something from Stealin
2. vow never order from them again
3. add intake
4. add exhaust
5. lower car properly with new springs
6. 4 new rims & tires
7. aquire taste for civics at red lights [/QUOTE
HAHAH that was a funny honda list :^)
and definately true

 

The real funny thing is:

If a Civic owner does the following:
Akimoto CAI
downpipe
CAT
GReddy exhast
Eibach and KYB
aftermarket wheels
Si badge on the rear deck
He is a riceboy.

If a Maxima owners does the following:
PR CAI
Y-pipe
CAY
GReddy exhaust
H&R and Tokico
aftermarket wheels
GTR badge on the rear deck
He is not a riceboy, he is a real enthusiast.

Am I ****ing missing something here?!

 

You got any proof? Or this is just another "SUV owners buy SUV's cuz fashion trend" type of statement?
Let me ask you, if all your friends have Civic's, and you are more than comfortable to shell out $90k on a car, you gonna follow your frineds and buy a Civic or you gonna hook yourself up with a 911/NSX/Lotus??

The reason people buy Civic, is because it's cheap. It's a mid 10k's entry car, and it's moddable for what it is. If you toss them a maxima for the same price, I believe many of them will take the Maxima instead of Civic. So don't act like Civic owners are not so bright that don't know what's better, how do you feel if some people ask you why you buy a Maxima and mod the $hit out of it while you can get a M5/E55 off the showroom floor with better performance outta box?

 

i dont see anything ricey there. just the confused badging. i define rice by adding all looks too a car (ex: wild body kit, nasty *** paint job, blue (not tint, but acutal blue) lights all over) while only having i/h/e (iow, minimal mods). so some may say my max ia rice, all i have is a k&n drop in, lighting, and fstb. other than that, its a stock body except for the soon to be in oem spoiler and missing gas door (needed to color match the spoiler). rice to some, but to me its my baby. some are targeted as rice more than others. for all some ignorant people care, all japanese vehicles are rice. rice is in the eyes of the beholder.

 

I'm not trying to Honda bash, I'm more upset of lack of aftermarket support and the fact that every Honda that pulls up next to me wants to race. I'm almost insulted that they want to race using a relatively stock civic. I've raced a couple of turbo SI and I was shocked when I beat them from a standing start and later on top end to 130mph (I don't promote racing like that so please don't romp on me for this one)and my car is pretty much stock. Viva la Maxima! And WoodEar why are you tearing up everyone that makes a comment against Civics (Just curious)

 

the REAL problem..is that nissan doesnt bring the s15 silvia and the skyline over here...where the hell is nismo?
im waiting for the XVL(my next ride) to come out in 2002/2003, to take out the is300
hondas are nice cars..i'd get one..but i dont want the same car as my girlfriend, my neighbor, classmates, my barber, 4 of my aunts....u get the point..

 

The point I am trying to make here, is that we basicly do the same thing Civic people do, heck, Civic actually have more mods vs. our common cai/ypipe/cat/exhaust combo. They put bodykit on, so do we, they even have more options. You laugh at their VTEC/Mugen/Si sticker, we have Nismo/GTR stickers too...
Thus in my opinion it's a contradiction to laugh at them while we do the same $hit. No doubt we are faster than them bolt-ons to bolt-ons, but that's only cuz we start with a V6 and they start with I4, ~80 more HP for us to begin with, really nothing to be proud here.

Now, I know you will say you see more all show no go Civic's, but do remember there are many many more Civic's out there compare to maxima's, so on a statistic basis, you will see more ricey ones, also you seen more running 12's and 13's.

 

I just don't like unfair talking.
Using the same way you trashing Civic's, a M5/E55 owner can say the same that a Maxima is rice and all show no go with all our bolt-ons why even bother to modify, I am sure it will bother you, so why don't you treat others the way you want to be treated?

 

The point I am trying to make here, is that we basicly do the same thing Civic people do, heck, Civic actually have more mods vs. our common cai/ypipe/cat/exhaust combo. They put bodykit on, so do we, they even have more options. You laugh at their VTEC/Mugen/Si sticker, we have Nismo/GTR stickers too...

hey, i laugh at vtec stickers, nismo stickers, trd stickers, calvin pising stickers, etc etc. hell when i crack on people, i crack on black, white, latino and most of all asian. im an equal oppurtunity racist.


Thus in my opinion it's a contradiction to laugh at them while we do the same $hit. No doubt we are faster than them bolt-ons to bolt-ons, but that's only cuz we start with a V6 and they start with I4, ~80 more HP for us to begin with, really nothing to be proud here.

like i said, people could even call my max ricey for all i care. if it werent mine and in its current state (w/o gas door), hell id call it ricey. but like i said rice is all in the eye of the beholder. not to mention there's a ricey factor to it. there are some that are extremely ricey (ex: 89 prelude w/ stock engine, supra wing, vtec stickers all over, fat chrome neepers, and a powered by vietnam badge). that imho gets five ricebowls outta 5. then there's your 99 civic ex coupe with i/h/e and maybe a lil vtec sticker. to me its still rice, but on the rice scale, only deserves 1/2 a bowl.

Now, I know you will say you see more all show no go Civic's, but do remember there are many many more Civic's out there compare to maxima's, so on a statistic basis, you will see more ricey ones, also you seen more running 12's and 13's.

in fact id bet that us maxima people actually would have a higher rice:non-rice ratio that civic owners would. just as sure as the civics sell better and that more people mod em.

 

cuz my trash talk is all in good fun.

your trash talk is as chaotic as sh*t hitting a fan.

 

I didn't call any name so I don't know why you were replying to me if you don't fit in the tpye I am aiming at, I am aiming at people who call Civic rice while they do the same mods that rice Civic has.
I am glad you are a fair one, ok?

 

Crap I didn't even know I was trash talking.
My trash talk will be something like:
Maxima is pos, it's for the 540 wannabe people, that's why they actually call it the poor man's 540. don't tell me they love it so much cuz they are satisfied with it, it's only cuz that's about the best can happen to them, throw them a 540 they will be dumping the max like a bad habit...

 

my max is a *temporary solution* in my quest for world domination. <img src="http://ageedoy.tripod.com/smilie_sperm.gif">

you probably werent even sh*t talking. im just shamelessly plugging in my new quote anywhere and everywhere i can get. sh*t hitting a fan! sh*t hitting a fan! sh*t hitting a fan! lol

 

glad to know you are not one of those Nissan4life kinda guy.

 

Come to think of it I've always considered my car a poormans Beeeemer. Right now I'm aspiring for a Supra or whatever Z-car Nissan decides to pump out. And again I just want to see some love from the aftermarket.
Laters

 

I don't see the problem of lack of an aftermarket. Lots of the really nice Civics and Integras are full out custom anyways. I just have one question, if they came out with all kinds of turbos and S/C's and 10 body kits and wings and coilovers, would you buy them? The reason for no love from the aftermarket is that there is no market. They would sell like 1 maxima turbo for every 100 civic turbos. That is why the afermarket doesn't care about the Maxima. I mean come on, Maxima enthusiasts debate a $100 intake. How many do you think would spring 4-6k for a decent turbo kit. If you really want something, it will get done. There are Maximas with turbos and skyline taillights and skyline brakes and custom body kits and custom interiors. Just like the Hondas.

 

yep yep.
it sucks to be in the middle, tuners don't like to do our business
they like either civics, cuz they can sell MASS quanlity even if they don't much on each piece, or they like Benz and likes, owners will pay whatever so they sell very small quanlity but make alot on each piece, plus it gives them a good reputation for being a luxury/exotic tuner.

 

It think it's the truth!

But I don't think there's anything wrong with being a NIssan4Life guy. Some people just prefer NIssna(who knows why), some people don't have much of a choice($$$..of course they can get another car...but like you said...the Max is a great deal for under $25k)

 

Back to the point...there really isn't much going for civics that you can't do for a max. There is just more companies to choose from. Does that mean they will get better products? NO WAY. The only significant thing that civic's can get that we can't are turbo kits, headers and computers. If you have the cash & need for power, you can customize a turbo. As for the header, show me one that makes significant power gains on a civic or any newer car for that matter. Don't forget people, just because there are a lot of products available doesn't mean you you're going to show gains in power. Anyone can weld up a header or exhaust system & sell it for $250 (plus $35 for shipping). I do wish we could get a tuner to make the computer work for us and not limit the best bang for the buck V6 on our shores. BTW who needs NISMO to have fun with a max?

 

If you go to ClubSi you would be surprised at how many Honda people would get a Maxima if they had the money. They know the Maxima's are very quick compared to them and admit they are probably the best bang for the buck sedan (and GTP) in the 35K range and below. It takes a good bit of mods to crank a Civic into the 14s and they know this. It really doesn't take much to get the Maxima there. If we were as gutsy as the Honda crew we could be landing some lower 14s quite easily. A lot of Honda guys are willing to strap bonified axle-snapping slicks onto their Civic Si and dump the clutch at 6000 rpms in the quest to hit 14s with an I/H/E. I don't care what people say about Honda trannies, they aren't gonna last behind wicked launches like this very long. Torque kills trannies.

As for it being "easy" to crank Civic into the 13s you'd better think again. A friend of mine has a Del Sol with a crate Type R motor, built head, full exhaust, lots of computer tuning (ecu, vtec controller, etc), and a full race suspension. He's also completely gutted this thing (2000lbs) and he's running 13.8s@102mph on race tires. He's got over $30000 in this car. Another friend has a 89 Civic hatchback, B16A swap with the LSD, I/H/E, no cat, and a partly gutted interior. His best et is a 15.2@92mph with me driving (he sucks driving). He's got $12000 in this car. He knows he could get a 95 GXE and have I/Y/E and be running the same ets for the same price, BUT he doesn't want a 4 door.

Dave

 

man, i take 4dr accords all the time,not to mention all the older galants. with a bunch of crap on them there still not super fast but maximas are quick from the factory. people get civics because they want a semi fast car and not spend $$$. they dont have to spend a lot of $$$ cuz they got all the aftermarket support and get stuff cheap. but we have to get basically handmade stuff and spend $$$. im not a honda hater, my brother has a 92 hatch and its fast, the only reason he got it is cuz he used to have an 88 rx7 and couldnt find any performance parts for it. same with the maximas, if we were the ones with the aftermarket support, then we wouldnt be talkin about hondas and they would be talkin about us. people just get what they can get all the aftermarket parts for

 

hi everyone yup u read right, vtecgirl..im not here to get flamed, my b/friend has a 95 max, this is where he spends most of his time so i thought id check it out..i came across this post and had to respond..im even a member now .. anyways i thought u guys should know that honda people have lots of respect for max's, theres even a post right now at purehonda called..max or accord.. ofcourse almost everyone said if they could choose it would b a max..i totally agree w/what wood said.. u gotta remember u guys r v6 and have lots more hp...dont get me wrong if a civic pulls up to u and starts revving,then they get what they deserve..now maybe a v6 accord, well that would b more ur guys' league, and no im not sayin a v6 accord could take a max, im just saying lets play fair..i felt kinda sorry for all the civics u guys mentioned, its true alot of them go wayyyyy out of control and do some stuff that even we r like wtf?.. not all hondas r like that.. theres just some really awful ones out there that give us a bad name..member its just my opinion.. thx for ur time..

btw.. i didnt get my accord cuz my friends all had one, i got it cuz it was within my dads price range, dependable, very pretty (if u ask me), and i knew id be able to slowly mod it up..

 

For what its worth the V6 accord is a nice car. Its just too bad it didn't have a 5spd as an option. Even if it did have a 5spd I doubt it would be much if any quicker than a maxima is. But I must admit if I could get a V6 accord 5spd for $200 less than a 5spd max the honda would be in my driveway. I have also been humbled my very 98+ V6 accord I lined up with . I have alot of respect for the V6 accords, now the 4cylinders I love running those.

 

Hey Woodear, why are you dissin the max when you own one and you hooked it up? Also who cares about superiority? Its all your taste. Maximas are luxury and can be fast. Hondas aren't really that luxurious and have a lot of support so the majority of them are hooked up and fast. But in the end you we are the ones that are comfortable when cruisin and still have our seats in the car.

 

dam this is an old azz post..btw..woodear sold his max

 

he is not dissing the max.. he is moving up.
when you drive a Sentra, you want a Maxima
when you have a Maxima, you want something better.

the Maxima, when all said and done, is still a family sedan. so what if it is a 5spd. it is STILL a family sedan. you can't expect it to be as sporty as a corvette or as luxurious as a mercedes, no matter how hard you try.

I bought mine because it has the best bang-for-the-buck for its class. I could have bought a corvette if I wanted a sport car. Corvettes aren't that expensive anyway.

Understand what your car can do and cannot do and you will be happy with it.

ohh pretty off topic again..