Slow crank/no start after swap
#1
Slow crank/no start after swap
Hey guys. I pulled my engine and swapped in a freshly sealed one as a semi easier way to fix my oil leaks, that were pretty much coming out of everywhere possible.
here's the details: 98 auto, vq30 with 00vi swap. I bought schmellyfart's engine, and it WAS RUNNING perfectly fine when he pulled it.
got everything hooked up and it was a slow crank. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9F2g...ature=youtu.be)
the two grounds that originally connect to the usim, we bolted to a spot on the 00vi manifold and added a jumper wire to the ground spot on the chassis behind the passenger headlight. I'm using a 3.5 upper and lower oil pan (long story, it was quicker at the time) and we had to grind down the pan for the crank sensor to fit correctly. (potential problem?) my battery has been charged by my charger, still slow crank, replaced starter, slow crank.
I seen this thread: http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generat...ng-issues.html
same issues I have, except for the evap. I used to have that buzzing noise, but no clue what it was, and it's gone now. his solution didn't work for me.
here's what I've checked:
here's the details: 98 auto, vq30 with 00vi swap. I bought schmellyfart's engine, and it WAS RUNNING perfectly fine when he pulled it.
got everything hooked up and it was a slow crank. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9F2g...ature=youtu.be)
the two grounds that originally connect to the usim, we bolted to a spot on the 00vi manifold and added a jumper wire to the ground spot on the chassis behind the passenger headlight. I'm using a 3.5 upper and lower oil pan (long story, it was quicker at the time) and we had to grind down the pan for the crank sensor to fit correctly. (potential problem?) my battery has been charged by my charger, still slow crank, replaced starter, slow crank.
I seen this thread: http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generat...ng-issues.html
same issues I have, except for the evap. I used to have that buzzing noise, but no clue what it was, and it's gone now. his solution didn't work for me.
here's what I've checked:
- battery reads 12.32v
- connector at starter reads 12.32v
- checked spark plugs, could smell fuel, so I'm getting fuel, cylinders aren't flooded
- sanded grounding points on the ground harness that runs from the battery post, to the chassis, to the block
#6
What makes you sure that your battery is good? Besides a voltage readout.
Try switching batteries for lulz, cleaning and re-torquing down the bolts on the tranny.
Your cranking issue is what needs to be tackled first (poor cranking leads to other problems).
The starter circuit is a very simple one, and it has nothing to do w/ the grounds on motor.
Try switching batteries for lulz, cleaning and re-torquing down the bolts on the tranny.
Your cranking issue is what needs to be tackled first (poor cranking leads to other problems).
The starter circuit is a very simple one, and it has nothing to do w/ the grounds on motor.
Last edited by aackshun; 04-18-2013 at 06:11 AM.
#9
And I was wondering the same thing. I've been talking with some friends they think its binding on the transmission. And I think the tick might be the connecting rods hitting the oil pan baffle.
#10
Maybe something to do with fuel or spark? The tick in the video sounds something like it would have to do with spark. Coil packs may be dead? But so many at one is ridiculous. Im not sure. Is the starter bolted in too tight? I know it's a silly question, but its possible. Mine wasn't bolted in all the way after the previous owner had someone replace the transmission, so of course after i bought it, it fell out just enough to where it wouldn't start the car and it made a horrendous noise while trying. So I would think if its bolted down too much, it would slow crank like it is?
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I removed spark plugs and still could not turn the engine with my breaker bar. Granted, I didn't have much leverage since I have a mild drop, but it should still spin easy.
And I was wondering the same thing. I've been talking with some friends they think its binding on the transmission. And I think the tick might be the connecting rods hitting the oil pan baffle.
And I was wondering the same thing. I've been talking with some friends they think its binding on the transmission. And I think the tick might be the connecting rods hitting the oil pan baffle.
I think you need to start taking things apart, and honestly I wouldn't be cranking it anymore until you find out what's causing the issue. You may be doing some serious damage.
#13
I removed spark plugs and still could not turn the engine with my breaker bar. Granted, I didn't have much leverage since I have a mild drop, but it should still spin easy.
And I was wondering the same thing. I've been talking with some friends they think its binding on the transmission. And I think the tick might be the connecting rods hitting the oil pan baffle.
And I was wondering the same thing. I've been talking with some friends they think its binding on the transmission. And I think the tick might be the connecting rods hitting the oil pan baffle.
Post #3 here may help. http://forums.maxima.org/4th-generat...ap-thread.html
Last edited by asand1; 04-18-2013 at 09:23 AM.
#14
I used the 3.5 pan because schmelly did a 3.5 swap and iirc he had to use the 3.0 pan to use the 3.0 timing. I used the 3.5 pan because I wanted the least amount of down time as possible since my max is my only car and daily. Well it didn't turn out that way.
I'm more than likely gonna swap over the 3.0 pan from my old engine anyways.
I'm more than likely gonna swap over the 3.0 pan from my old engine anyways.
#15
I only skimmed through the thread so I apologize in advance if something has already been covered.
The ticking is most likely the rods and oil pan baffle. I thought the 3.0 baffle would be fine in a 3.5 pan, but those mounting bosses must be at different heights. I'll take pics and measurements when both pans are removed.
We are going to drop the tranny on Saturday and go from there since the engine rotated fine by hand with the flexplate and tq converter installed, but not after the trans was installed. I also never removed the pilot bushing from my old engine, not sure how that would affect being mated to an auto trans.
The ticking is most likely the rods and oil pan baffle. I thought the 3.0 baffle would be fine in a 3.5 pan, but those mounting bosses must be at different heights. I'll take pics and measurements when both pans are removed.
We are going to drop the tranny on Saturday and go from there since the engine rotated fine by hand with the flexplate and tq converter installed, but not after the trans was installed. I also never removed the pilot bushing from my old engine, not sure how that would affect being mated to an auto trans.
#19
You'll have to remove the 4 bolts holding the converter to the flexplate.
Loosen/remove all the trans mounting bolts and seperate the trans from the engine a tad bit.
Remove the starter
Then from the hole of the starter you'll have to try to turn the torque converter and push it towards the trans.
#20
Yup torque converter goes into the trans first then bolts to the flex plate. The torque converter nose needs to sit in the spot that the pilot bushing would normally be. If both of these are not the case with your trans, it will cause problems and will destroy something.
#21
Ahhh. That's probably where we messed up then. We assumed it was a "install reverse of uninstall" kind of thing. We're completely removing the trans anyways to make sure we can turn the engine by hand JUST IN CASE. So we'll be sure to install it right.
#23
THANK YOU MAXIMA JOE!!!!
I'm not sure if that was the exact issue but the trans was DEFINITELY installed wrong lol oops
Car is 95% now! And that's because I'm wrong 5th gen iacv and alternator died. Lol
I'm not sure if that was the exact issue but the trans was DEFINITELY installed wrong lol oops
Car is 95% now! And that's because I'm wrong 5th gen iacv and alternator died. Lol
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