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Old 02-23-2014, 08:31 PM
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jack rails and frame bent

apparently, from years of being put up improperly on jacks and lifts the rails and frame are bent up to $hit underneath. i took it to the dealer and the jackass puts it up in the exact spot were it's bent after i told him to not use that type of lift. wtf, how do i fix the jack rails? do i need to go to a body shop or can i hammer them straight? i know the idiot at the dealer bent them up worse in the front. i'm really pissed that some idiot also dropped the car off the lift putting a huge hump in the floor which i fixed with a log and a prayer. really not sure if i'm going to fix all the $hit that's wrong with maxy or just buy another one. bodys straight, goddamn careless techs over the years
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It sucks, but I wouldn't worry about straightening them out. Chances are, they'll just get bent again unless you're the only one working on your car from here on out; and you use the proper jack. Plus, all the bending back and forth is just going to make them weaker.
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Old 02-23-2014, 09:43 PM
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i figured as much, takes away from all the work i've put into the car when you see the underneath.
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Old 02-23-2014, 09:49 PM
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I bet you're the only one that notices though. It does suck though so I feel your pain.

Get a Stillen kit and all your woes will be hidden and forgotten.
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nothing you can do. no point in fixing it, rust happens. ive lifted many rusty cars and no matter where you lift them, the frame edges still cave in

guy i work with lifted a rusty 280ZX once and the thing broke in half off the hoist lol
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I always jack from the rear axle and fro t subframe bolts, and always use a floor jack. When i can i use ramps. The rails are kinda like t!ts on a warthog for me. They can bend and fall off for all i care.
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Originally Posted by asand1
I always jack from the rear axle...
How do you compensate for loss of lift from the suspension compressing?
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Jack it up higher.
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Originally Posted by asand1
I always jack from the rear axle and fro t subframe bolts, and always use a floor jack. When i can i use ramps. The rails are kinda like t!ts on a warthog for me. They can bend and fall off for all i care.
Those are the same points I Jack on too. The lift areas on my car are bent too.
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Originally Posted by dwapenyi
How do you compensate for loss of lift from the suspension compressing?
The weight of the car is already on the springs, so jacking the axle up 10" will raise the body 10". One side at a time and placing it on stands under the axle.
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Originally Posted by asand1
The weight of the car is already on the springs, so jacking the axle up 10" will raise the body 10". One side at a time and placing it on stands under the axle.
Your answer clued me in to my dilemna. By jacking up the front first, some of the car's weight "tilts" to the back. So when u jack up the back afterwards (I use the center of the beam) the rear suspension compresses.....alot.

From now on I will jack up the rear end 1st from now on. Of course I have to make sure the front wheels are secured because the e-brake only locks the rears.

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When you jack at the rails you lift the whole side, front and rear. I like to jack one corner at a time.
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