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Old Jan 23, 2002 | 11:00 PM
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THANK YOU! You two are correct, I was just trying to explain to shadow that I did not know why a plude stood up to me because I am a newbie, that's why I came to you guys for the answer and you gave it to me!
yes...but then you got all rude about it...so that's why he called you out on it.
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 04:25 AM
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gayludes are very slow unless they have lots and lots of money into them. My friend has one, its sloooow
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 05:18 AM
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Your attitude is the same as those who think the Maxima is god's gift to the automotive world.
It isn't?
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 06:37 AM
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my buddy has a lude...

its a 97. and i've driven his many times, along with another 98 Type SH, both 5 spds. these cars are quick - after 4000 RPM and esp when vtec kicks in. and they handle amazingly right out of the box. but the Max makes up for a lot in the torque dept, and that's why i've yet to lose to my friend's prelude.
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by Axra


It isn't?
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 08:50 AM
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u took the VTEC Prelude on stock auto? Was the Prelude a 5spd? im not trying to flame or anything but i find that a bit hard to believe. ill defintely believe a Prelude or Prelude Si but i know a stock auto cant take a 5spd VTEC Prelude, if the VTEC Prelude was auto it makes sense tho. i just think you should clarify whether it was auto or 5spd, bc those races with the VTEC Prelude get awfully close. Im not sayin ur lying either dont get me wrong, theres a lot of factors, how long the race was, what speed u started, etc....
ive raced a Lude VTEC before, it was 5spd and i have auto, i took teh launch and kept about 2-3 car lead until like 60mph then the gap began closing and by 90 he was walking me, by 100 he was at my front bumper and still pulling away. tahts the only reason i question your claim about beating a VTEC Lude. I havent raced an auto VTEC Lude so if thats what u raced then im pretty sure its possible.
took out 5 preludes that I can clearly recall
CA I-5 85-130mph 94 Lude topped out at 120
CA 580 60-138mph 95 exhaust lude topped out at 125.
Hawthorne Blvd 0-80mph 98 Lude 5spd close but he gave up at 80 when i had a car length on him
CA 880 70-110mph 00 Lude (new plates) dunno if it was stick or auto, gave up when he hit traffic and started drafting me
CA Richmond Bridge 60-135mph 96 Lude. topped out at 120.

There's your details.
The first 3 races I was stock.
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 09:02 AM
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how pretty

I think those honda preludes are pretty. I saw one at night. It's was silver, it had a nice drop, hyperwhites and alteeza lights. It's was so cute and so beautiful. those alteeza lights were so beautiful on that car. Too bad they look like crap on the max. right or wrong?
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by MaximaGTR34


took out 5 preludes that I can clearly recall
CA I-5 85-130mph 94 Lude topped out at 120
CA 580 60-138mph 95 exhaust lude topped out at 125.
Hawthorne Blvd 0-80mph 98 Lude 5spd close but he gave up at 80 when i had a car length on him
CA 880 70-110mph 00 Lude (new plates) dunno if it was stick or auto, gave up when he hit traffic and started drafting me
CA Richmond Bridge 60-135mph 96 Lude. topped out at 120.

There's your details.
The first 3 races I was stock.
we're they all VTEC?? cuz if they were i want YOUR maxima.
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 10:13 AM
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the frist two had the older style vtec badge on the bottom right corner, and the newer gens i'm not sure, but one of em was a type SH. saw the SH sign before we got at it.. my max is not fast, but it has its weird days when its racer heart actually makes it run faster for some reason! i'll probably lose now.. 18" heavy rims are killin my acceleration.
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 12:29 PM
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Re: how pretty

Originally posted by freshmax
I think those honda preludes are pretty. I saw one at night. It's was silver, it had a nice drop, hyperwhites and alteeza lights. It's was so cute and so beautiful. those alteeza lights were so beautiful on that car. Too bad they look like crap on the max. right or wrong?
Are you smoking crack. Altezza lights look like crap on any car.
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 01:33 PM
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I think they look hot on a fast truck...Lightning, they look sweet
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by nigelcmf
My max feels really slow...probably for two reasons (at least)

1. I don't know how to drive it properly...when to shift, how to shift
2. I am at 5000 ft above sea level

Anyone have solutions? ...other than move to sea-level?
Learn to shift . get a short shifter... get forced induction ?
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 03:53 PM
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Re: Re: how pretty

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Are you smoking crack. Altezza lights look like crap on any car.
not the Altezza (is300) its self
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 04:45 PM
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Are Preludes fast???? See my sig.
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 05:21 PM
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Are Preludes fast???? See my sig.
yeah , the latest gen (i think its 5th) are quick in Vtec. very quick it seems ... my friends is a 4th gen non v tec ,maybe that explains why it sucks.
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 05:52 PM
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Prelude?!?! What's that? Is it that car with the H I always see in the rear view mirror?
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by nigelcmf
Prelude?!?! What's that? Is it that car with the H I always see in the rear view mirror?
There are several types of cars with "H"s on them that we see in the rear view.
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 06:11 PM
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Why do all threads about Preludes turn retarded?
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by Nealoc187
Why do all threads about Preludes turn retarded?
Guess it's all the retards that post them!

Sorry! Nothing against Preludes ... just Hondas in general

Seriously though, they are good machines. Reliable engines etc ... people that I know that drive them luv them just as much as we luv ours! Hey the Accord was my second choice ... how about yours?
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by MaximaGTR34
but one of em was a type SH. saw the SH sign before we got at it.. my max is not fast, but it has its weird days when its racer heart actually makes it run faster for some reason!
While the Type SH's ATTS system does a pretty good job of controlling the normally boaty handling of the Prelude, it also does a pretty good job of sucking some power. The drivetrain power loss on the SH is significantly higher than the base model. Which, on the freeway, meant that you smoked him. I believe it.
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 09:04 PM
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i have a 98 integra gs-R. my friend was behind me on the highway in his maxima he kept up from 60 with me all the way to about 110 then we had to slow down because of traffic. it was dead even. and i had a system in my car 4 15's and 2 batterys his maxima was stock. i had a friend in the passengers seat and he was by himself. the only performance upgrades was we both had intakes. i don't know what model his maxima is i am pretty sure it is a auto though. I am willing to bet the prelude was stock i would think a prelude would beat a maxima.
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by acuradriva
i have a 98 integra gs-R. my friend was behind me on the highway in his maxima he kept up from 60 with me all the way to about 110 then we had to slow down because of traffic. it was dead even. and i had a system in my car 4 15's and 2 batterys his maxima was stock. i had a friend in the passengers seat and he was by himself. the only performance upgrades was we both had intakes. i don't know what model his maxima is i am pretty sure it is a auto though. I am willing to bet the prelude was stock i would think a prelude would beat a maxima.
That's a whole lot of extra weight for the b18c1's depressing torque.

Don't be fooled by horsepower numbers, a GSR pulls harder than a Prelude. I drove both a 2000 SH and a 1998 GSR before I bought my '98 GSR.
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 09:13 PM
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oh yea i really don't think a prelude shuts down at 120. my gs-r can go 139. i suspet the lude should be some where around there.
Old Jan 24, 2002 | 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by MaximaRversion2


Learn to shift . get a short shifter... get forced induction ?
Hehe! I am getting the last one PSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHTTT!
Old Jan 25, 2002 | 12:49 AM
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First off all 97+ Preludes are VTEC H22A4, the SHs are heavier and slower. They range in horsepower 190-200 depending on years and models. The Lude is fast once it's going, it pulls very hard. The Teg GSR is quicker off the line. The Lude has a speed limiter of 115 if I remember correctly. I have driven all 3 cars before. The GSR 5-speed was much faster off of the line that the AUTO Maxima I drove. The ATTS Lude was the slowest off the line. The fastest at gaining speed on the interstate was the Lude. The GSR just plain ran out of power on the interstate. The Maxima faired well. I honestly think that the Lude could take a Maxima on the interstate, both being stock.
Old Jan 25, 2002 | 06:26 AM
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Just pointing out that there is no difference between the SH and non-SH other than the ATTS. Strait-line acceleration is the same between the cars.
Old Jan 25, 2002 | 07:00 AM
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Just wanted to point out that the 97+ Preludes (both base and SH) are rev limited to 144mph. If you want more out of it, you're going to have to mod or find a nice long decline
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my friend ran 14.6 with his 4th Gen Prelude 4WS?? at etown.. he has I/H/E
Old Jan 25, 2002 | 07:23 AM
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I think it's funny when we compare 6 cyl and 4 cyl engines. If you take the fact the we have a 6 Cyl and can barely pull away from a 4, that 4 really has you beat. I know on a street its a car against a car, but think about it, HP/cyl--Honda has destroyed the rest of asian market(import to the US). I know that everyone is going to flame about the EVOVII/GTR34 and all that crap but those aren't N/A engines.
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Originally posted by SLC I30t
I think it's funny when we compare 6 cyl and 4 cyl engines. If you take the fact the we have a 6 Cyl and can barely pull away from a 4, that 4 really has you beat. I know on a street its a car against a car, but think about it, HP/cyl--Honda has destroyed the rest of asian market(import to the US). I know that everyone is going to flame about the EVOVII/GTR34 and all that crap but those aren't N/A engines.

because as you say.. on the street.. a car is a car.. and no one sits back and thinks about it when you are racing someone next to you
Old Jan 25, 2002 | 07:46 AM
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True. Honda makes the best and most powerful 4 bangers. Thing is, it's a 4 banger, no bottm end on those VTECS, especially with the 4 bangers. These VTEC engines are Jekyll & Hide type engines, from the GSR to the all the way to the S2000. Lack luster on the bottom end, VTEC hi revving madness up top!

Maybe the NSX is the exception, but for $80K it better be!

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Originally posted by SLC I30t
I think it's funny when we compare 6 cyl and 4 cyl engines. If you take the fact the we have a 6 Cyl and can barely pull away from a 4, that 4 really has you beat. I know on a street its a car against a car, but think about it, HP/cyl--Honda has destroyed the rest of asian market(import to the US). I know that everyone is going to flame about the EVOVII/GTR34 and all that crap but those aren't N/A engines.
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you think honda's 4 banger is impressive.. the SR20DE blows it away
Old Jan 25, 2002 | 08:32 AM
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Doesn't the SR20DE only make 140hp? I remember hearing something about a version of the motor with variable valve timing that made more power, but that was only on Jap-Spec cars. Then again, you have the SR20DET, the grandaddy of Silvia motors
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Originally posted by Interlude
Doesn't the SR20DE only make 140hp? I remember hearing something about a version of the motor with variable valve timing that made more power, but that was only on Jap-Spec cars. Then again, you have the SR20DET, the grandaddy of Silvia motors

well i was talking about the ability to hold power on stock internals.. the SR20DE can hold more than twice the amount of power than it came with stock .. with the stock internals..
Old Jan 25, 2002 | 09:41 AM
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SR20 isn't sold in any US cars though. It has to be swapped right?
Old Jan 25, 2002 | 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by SLC I30t
SR20 isn't sold in any US cars though. It has to be swapped right?

SR20DE has been sold in SE-R's in the US since 1991
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SR20DE has been sold in SE-R's in the US since 1991
Then whats the engine swap for the 240sx? I thought it was the sr20de that came out of the silvia
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Originally posted by SLC I30t

Then whats the engine swap for the 240sx? I thought it was the sr20de that came out of the silvia
SR20DET is from the silva, Bluebird SSS, 180SX and Pulsar GTiR

the SR20DE is in the SE-R's in the US
Old Jan 25, 2002 | 09:59 AM
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It used to be, in the 90-95 sentra SE. I'm not exactly sure, but around those years. I think emissions killed it, too.

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Originally posted by SLC I30t
SR20 isn't sold in any US cars though. It has to be swapped right?
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Originally posted by dwapenyi
It used to be, in the 90-95 sentra SE. I'm not exactly sure, but around those years. I think emissions killed it, too.

DW

its also in the 96 - 99 200 sx SE-R..


edit: it was in the Sentra 91 - 93 SE-R's..

i don't know about the sentra SE's



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