anyone wanna try custom hoods?
01-25-2002, 08:11 PM
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anyone wanna try custom hoods?
Don't you guys think our hood look kinda .... weird?
I saw the fender pictures and noticed the hoods should be customized...
anyone eles think so?
how did that fast and the furious guy do it?
I saw the fender pictures and noticed the hoods should be customized...
anyone eles think so?
how did that fast and the furious guy do it?
01-25-2002, 10:15 PM
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Jeff (aka Shadow) who is making the body kit for us right now and Z3 fenders has in plan a carbon fiber hood and other ideas for a hood.. e-mail him or PM him and ask him what he is coming up with or maybe offer some suggestions.
01-25-2002, 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by JdawgX
A ram air hood of some sort would be pretty sweet. But please, no more RICE!
A ram air hood of some sort would be pretty sweet. But please, no more RICE!
i would just get a carbon fiber hood.
01-26-2002, 08:52 AM
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Top-quality carbon fiber would be good. I want to be able to stand on it without cracking it. Perfect fit/finish would be good. I do not want to have to grind/file anything to get it to fit. Ability to use stock latch *and* hydraulic lifts would be good. I don't want to have to use latch pins to hold it shut, nor a golf club to hold it up. Pre-drilled for windshield washer nozzles would be good. I don't trust myself to drill perfectly good holes in a carbon fiber hood! Scoops and vents? Forget it. I'd be glad just to have a carbon fiber hood that replaces the stock unit one-for-one! Have a happy day.
01-26-2002, 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by MAXEJA
carbon fiber wave of the future, no fiber glass
carbon fiber wave of the future, no fiber glass
The hoods that Shadow will be producing will not be riced out, but they will be of superior quality and i am almost 100% sure they will utilize the nice stock hydrolic lift posts we have now.
I can't disclose any specifics on what they hoods will looks like but the carbon fiber hood will blow "fiber-images" hood out of the water. I'll see if i can get jeff to add some input on this..
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01-26-2002, 02:59 PM
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:o)
Originally posted by bullseye
Top-quality carbon fiber would be good. I want to be able to stand on it without cracking it. Perfect fit/finish would be good. I do not want to have to grind/file anything to get it to fit. Ability to use stock latch *and* hydraulic lifts would be good. I don't want to have to use latch pins to hold it shut, nor a golf club to hold it up. Pre-drilled for windshield washer nozzles would be good. I don't trust myself to drill perfectly good holes in a carbon fiber hood! Scoops and vents? Forget it. I'd be glad just to have a carbon fiber hood that replaces the stock unit one-for-one! Have a happy day.
Top-quality carbon fiber would be good. I want to be able to stand on it without cracking it. Perfect fit/finish would be good. I do not want to have to grind/file anything to get it to fit. Ability to use stock latch *and* hydraulic lifts would be good. I don't want to have to use latch pins to hold it shut, nor a golf club to hold it up. Pre-drilled for windshield washer nozzles would be good. I don't trust myself to drill perfectly good holes in a carbon fiber hood! Scoops and vents? Forget it. I'd be glad just to have a carbon fiber hood that replaces the stock unit one-for-one! Have a happy day.
01-26-2002, 04:23 PM
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Re: :o)
Originally posted by ptatohed
That was DAMN well said!!!
That was DAMN well said!!!
I got the point - he want's it to be of "high quality." I'm just amused by the suggested "measure" of quality.
There is such a thing as over-building something for it's intended purpose. Your OEM hood wouldn't stand up to that kind of abuse - why is it reasonable to think an aftermarket piece should?
Having said that - all the other suggestions made good sense: bolt in direct replacement accounting for all the hood latch, hydraulics, etc. (except for the washer holes - some people have show-cars or other reasons for not wanting the washer holes pre-drilled). That should be left alone, or offered as an option from the manufacturer.
01-26-2002, 06:04 PM
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Yeah, especially the part about "standing on the hood." Because I know if there's one thing I'm always thinking when I walk away from my car in a parking lot, it's: "man, I'd get a carbon fiber hood in a heartbeat, if I could only find one I could dance on w/ my g/f without causing damage. . ." Puhleeeze. lol.
**** NO need for sarcasm KW. It's just a metaphor man, a metaphor. Do you honestly think he meant he will be standing on his hood? He was stating he'd like the hood to be strong, not weak. Period. Is that too much to ask?
I got the point - he want's it to be of "high quality." I'm just amused by the suggested "measure" of quality.
**** M-E-T-A-P-H-O-R
There is such a thing as over-building something for it's intended purpose. Your OEM hood wouldn't stand up to that kind of abuse - why is it reasonable to think an aftermarket piece should?
**** The stock Y-pipe doesn't give 15-20 HP, why should an aftermarket? What kind of logic is that?
Why is it not resonable?! That is the bragging/selling point of carbon fiber man!!!!!! When Fiber Images's web site shows them dropping a full rim and tire off a ladder on to their CF hood, why is it "unreasonable" for bullseye to expect that kind of strength????
Having said that - all the other suggestions made good sense: bolt in direct replacement accounting for all the hood latch, hydraulics, etc. (except for the washer holes - some people have show-cars or other reasons for not wanting the washer holes pre-drilled). That should be left alone, or offered as an option from the manufacturer.
**** Yeah, I agree with you there. I thought that too but just didn't say anything. I, myself, plan on shaving my wiper nozzles so I wouldn't want a hood to come pre-drilled. Maybe little 'dimples' underneath would be a good compromise.
Anyway, take it easy man. Relax a little.
**** NO need for sarcasm KW. It's just a metaphor man, a metaphor. Do you honestly think he meant he will be standing on his hood? He was stating he'd like the hood to be strong, not weak. Period. Is that too much to ask?
I got the point - he want's it to be of "high quality." I'm just amused by the suggested "measure" of quality.
**** M-E-T-A-P-H-O-R
There is such a thing as over-building something for it's intended purpose. Your OEM hood wouldn't stand up to that kind of abuse - why is it reasonable to think an aftermarket piece should?
**** The stock Y-pipe doesn't give 15-20 HP, why should an aftermarket? What kind of logic is that?
Why is it not resonable?! That is the bragging/selling point of carbon fiber man!!!!!! When Fiber Images's web site shows them dropping a full rim and tire off a ladder on to their CF hood, why is it "unreasonable" for bullseye to expect that kind of strength????
Having said that - all the other suggestions made good sense: bolt in direct replacement accounting for all the hood latch, hydraulics, etc. (except for the washer holes - some people have show-cars or other reasons for not wanting the washer holes pre-drilled). That should be left alone, or offered as an option from the manufacturer.
**** Yeah, I agree with you there. I thought that too but just didn't say anything. I, myself, plan on shaving my wiper nozzles so I wouldn't want a hood to come pre-drilled. Maybe little 'dimples' underneath would be a good compromise.
Anyway, take it easy man. Relax a little.
01-26-2002, 06:36 PM
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Re: Re: Re: :o)
I'm relaxed as can be - cool like Fonzie. (That's a simile, btw) -didn't mean to come off "aggro." I apologize if I did. I thought I admitted I "got the point," (READ: understood the metaphor), and that I was just amused by it. . .
Y-pipes & hoods? -apples & oranges. Of course I would expect an aftermarket "engine-performance" enhancement accessory to actually "improve engine performance." That's the measure of it's value. The key performance measures of a static piece like a CF hood, however, (in my mind) are quality workmanship, fit/finish & weight reduction. As long as it's not "flimsy," it passes the strength test, in my mind. Of course, hold the products you buy to whatever standards you like - your choice as a consumer. I demand quality, too.
Hey - it's all good. As I said, I was just amused, that's all -didn't mean to start a flame war.
Have a great weekend!
Peace,
Y-pipes & hoods? -apples & oranges. Of course I would expect an aftermarket "engine-performance" enhancement accessory to actually "improve engine performance." That's the measure of it's value. The key performance measures of a static piece like a CF hood, however, (in my mind) are quality workmanship, fit/finish & weight reduction. As long as it's not "flimsy," it passes the strength test, in my mind. Of course, hold the products you buy to whatever standards you like - your choice as a consumer. I demand quality, too.
Hey - it's all good. As I said, I was just amused, that's all -didn't mean to start a flame war.
Have a great weekend!
Peace,
Originally posted by ptatohed
Yeah, especially the part about "standing on the hood." Because I know if there's one thing I'm always thinking when I walk away from my car in a parking lot, it's: "man, I'd get a carbon fiber hood in a heartbeat, if I could only find one I could dance on w/ my g/f without causing damage. . ." Puhleeeze. lol.
**** NO need for sarcasm KW. It's just a metaphor man, a metaphor. Do you honestly think he meant he will be standing on his hood? He was stating he'd like the hood to be strong, not weak. Period. Is that too much to ask?
I got the point - he want's it to be of "high quality." I'm just amused by the suggested "measure" of quality.
**** M-E-T-A-P-H-O-R
There is such a thing as over-building something for it's intended purpose. Your OEM hood wouldn't stand up to that kind of abuse - why is it reasonable to think an aftermarket piece should?
**** The stock Y-pipe doesn't give 15-20 HP, why should an aftermarket? What kind of logic is that?
Why is it not resonable?! That is the bragging/selling point of carbon fiber man!!!!!! When Fiber Images's web site shows them dropping a full rim and tire off a ladder on to their CF hood, why is it "unreasonable" for bullseye to expect that kind of strength????
Having said that - all the other suggestions made good sense: bolt in direct replacement accounting for all the hood latch, hydraulics, etc. (except for the washer holes - some people have show-cars or other reasons for not wanting the washer holes pre-drilled). That should be left alone, or offered as an option from the manufacturer.
**** Yeah, I agree with you there. I thought that too but just didn't say anything. I, myself, plan on shaving my wiper nozzles so I wouldn't want a hood to come pre-drilled. Maybe little 'dimples' underneath would be a good compromise.
Anyway, take it easy man. Relax a little.
Yeah, especially the part about "standing on the hood." Because I know if there's one thing I'm always thinking when I walk away from my car in a parking lot, it's: "man, I'd get a carbon fiber hood in a heartbeat, if I could only find one I could dance on w/ my g/f without causing damage. . ." Puhleeeze. lol.
**** NO need for sarcasm KW. It's just a metaphor man, a metaphor. Do you honestly think he meant he will be standing on his hood? He was stating he'd like the hood to be strong, not weak. Period. Is that too much to ask?
I got the point - he want's it to be of "high quality." I'm just amused by the suggested "measure" of quality.
**** M-E-T-A-P-H-O-R
There is such a thing as over-building something for it's intended purpose. Your OEM hood wouldn't stand up to that kind of abuse - why is it reasonable to think an aftermarket piece should?
**** The stock Y-pipe doesn't give 15-20 HP, why should an aftermarket? What kind of logic is that?
Why is it not resonable?! That is the bragging/selling point of carbon fiber man!!!!!! When Fiber Images's web site shows them dropping a full rim and tire off a ladder on to their CF hood, why is it "unreasonable" for bullseye to expect that kind of strength????
Having said that - all the other suggestions made good sense: bolt in direct replacement accounting for all the hood latch, hydraulics, etc. (except for the washer holes - some people have show-cars or other reasons for not wanting the washer holes pre-drilled). That should be left alone, or offered as an option from the manufacturer.
**** Yeah, I agree with you there. I thought that too but just didn't say anything. I, myself, plan on shaving my wiper nozzles so I wouldn't want a hood to come pre-drilled. Maybe little 'dimples' underneath would be a good compromise.
Anyway, take it easy man. Relax a little.
01-26-2002, 06:43 PM
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All you guys worrying about the strength of the hoods are forgetting something. The stock hood is designed to crumple under crash loading. Now, if the hood doesn't crumple and is super-strong, where do you think it's going to go?
01-26-2002, 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by Weasel
All you guys worrying about the strength of the hoods are forgetting something. The stock hood is designed to crumple under crash loading. Now, if the hood doesn't crumple and is super-strong, where do you think it's going to go?
All you guys worrying about the strength of the hoods are forgetting something. The stock hood is designed to crumple under crash loading. Now, if the hood doesn't crumple and is super-strong, where do you think it's going to go?
(I'd hope in a worst-case scenario, it would bust free of the hood mounts & just slide up & over the windshield, but who knows)
Anyone have any experience w/ a CF hood equipped vehicle in front-end impacts? Opinions?
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01-26-2002, 07:50 PM
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My feelings are hurt! 
That's OK. I'm a big boy. In fact, I really would *not* expect a CF hood to support my 270 lbs.! I just don't want it to unfurl like a flag at 100-mph and flip over my car like a playing card!
I do want *very* nicely finished edges, with plenty of resin and clearcoat in there. I don't want to get a splinter in my fingers everytime I raise the hood. That stuff hurts!
And I think y'all are right about those washer nozzle holes. I agree that the pre-drilling should be an optional service. And those holes, if requested, should be *professionally* drilled and finished, too.
If I had an opportunity to install a CF hood that replaced my stocker hood one-for-one, and it was a beautiful piece of craftsmanship to behold, I would pay top dollar for it, that's for sure. Top dollar.
Can you say "Lifetime Guarantee" folks?
And lastly, I thank those who rushed to support me in my hour of need. But I think y'all may have over-reacted just a tad. I'm glad someone was amused by my post. But remember, it's those psychological scars that last a lifetime. Thanks again.
That's OK. I'm a big boy. In fact, I really would *not* expect a CF hood to support my 270 lbs.! I just don't want it to unfurl like a flag at 100-mph and flip over my car like a playing card!
I do want *very* nicely finished edges, with plenty of resin and clearcoat in there. I don't want to get a splinter in my fingers everytime I raise the hood. That stuff hurts!
And I think y'all are right about those washer nozzle holes. I agree that the pre-drilling should be an optional service. And those holes, if requested, should be *professionally* drilled and finished, too.
If I had an opportunity to install a CF hood that replaced my stocker hood one-for-one, and it was a beautiful piece of craftsmanship to behold, I would pay top dollar for it, that's for sure. Top dollar.
Can you say "Lifetime Guarantee" folks?
And lastly, I thank those who rushed to support me in my hour of need. But I think y'all may have over-reacted just a tad. I'm glad someone was amused by my post. But remember, it's those psychological scars that last a lifetime.
Thanks again.
01-26-2002, 07:53 PM
#23
one word. "glass"
carbon fiber hoods have a film of sorts like tint over them to hold them together as a window does if it is tinted and broken.. the glass part shatters and if it breaks that film it would crumble to pieces or essentially crumple..
no guillotine.
carbon fiber hoods have a film of sorts like tint over them to hold them together as a window does if it is tinted and broken.. the glass part shatters and if it breaks that film it would crumble to pieces or essentially crumple..
no guillotine.
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