Hey. I am looking to get some springs for my car. I am looking for lowering springs. Many of you have them...what do you think is the best all around? I like the lower drop in the front than back. Eibach pro's? The sprints drop 2" f & R, but my front looks to sit a bit higher. Any experiences - best look, ride, and drop...Feedback would be great. I appreciate it.

 

I dont have them - Yet, but I like H & R. They sit well have a nice drop and are comfortable from what I have ridden in. I am looking to get them in the spring.

SuDZ

 

The sport or racing? It says that the Racing springs drop like 2.4" (something like that). I like the sport I think, I'd like to see pics of the diffrence between them.

 

The Eibachs have more of a go-kart kind of feel. They're more stiffer than the stock SE springs.

 

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"more stiffer"?

I used to have Sprints. I think they are too low, they take away too much suspension travel.

Now, I have Eibachs. They are awesome. Same good handling and quick turn in as Sprints but with plenty of wheel travel.

 

I installed Dropzone Springs which drops it 2"... look in sig..it also sits even. I have them with the KYB AGX love the setup love the spings very firm handling no problems.. I'm surprised not much ppl have these.. its like everyone's afriad to try a different company other than Sprint, Eibach or H&R... some ppl on the ORG are just BIAS!!!! dont always listen.

 

Eibach told me they didnt make the sport line for maxima only the pro-kit.

 

I have MaxSpeeds and for what I paid for them, they're pretty good. They do compensate for load in the back, but I've been told they look nice, and I agree. The ride is really good, except on roughed up roads, but that's kinda understandable. I'm pretty satisfied.

 

How do you think the ride is with Dropzone springs? would you be able to compare to H&R (if you have ever ridden in a max with those or from what you've heard). I was going to get H&R but I kinda want a lower drop so I might get something else (maybe GC coilovers). So please write about how the ride is with those, and if you think a person living in NYC with pothole infested roads and highways with speedbumps on them would be able to stand them for daily driving.

 

With whichever springs you decide on, do *not* fail to include new struts. Stiff aftermarket springs will easily overwhelm your stock struts. Heavy-duty aftermarket struts Like AGX or Tokico will fill the bill. If you can't afford to do both springs and struts now, just save your money until you can do both at the same time. Don't forget to have your wheels aligned, too. Good luck.

 

from what i have heard i would recomend springs with a progressive drop.

 

Surely you mean progressive spring rate.

 

what do you mean by "progressive" spring drop? Does one need new shocks and struts if you lower your car. What if you just put on springs, will it mess up the car?

 

I just got back from a drive through town, and along the way I overtook and passed a lowered Honda Civic. The car was extremely jittery, bouncing all over the place as if it had no struts at all. The people inside the car were being shook hard. It was almost too funny to watch! I had to look away as I passed them so they wouldn't see me laughing.

The guy had installed aftermarket springs, and left the stock struts in place. The stiffer springs rebound more vigorously than stock, so it takes stronger struts to dampen that rebound. Without sturdier struts, lowering springs are gonna make you bounce, bounce, bounce all over town.

Progressive rate springs offer little resistance to short travel. On a smooth road, these springs are pretty forgiving. If you encounter imperfections in the road surface like speed bumps, pot holes, etc., the springs travel more, resisting travel more. So, the ride can get rough on imperfect roads. But the car is usually more stable, and there is less nose-dive under hard braking with progressive rate springs.

If you don't get aftermarket struts to complement your aftermarket springs, it won't hurt your car per se. But you'll be bouncing. That condition degrades your ability to control your car, including those emergency times when you absolutely need to be able to control your car as well as possible!

Many of the mods you put on a car work better in concert with other mods. Springs & struts are 2 of the more important mods that beg to be done together. Good luck.

 

I've had H&Rs on my 98 with the stock shocks/struts for almost 2,000 miles now. No bouncing at all, excellent handling and not far from stock ride. A little rougher but I dont mind, Id actually like a little less comfort, call me crazy. Car looks so much better than before with the 4x4 look. Once I get 18s it will look even better, right now Im stuck with the stock 16s. As soon as I have the money I putting on some AGXs. Dont worry so much about putting aftermarket springs on stock shocks/struts. If you expect them to last 50,000 miles your dreaming, but if you only need them to last 5,000 or so, you're fine.
Tony

 

Bullseye quit passsing bum scoop, the only time you will bounce on a lowering spring is when you hit a bump thats the only time. Some of these people here on the org truly exaggerate the way a lowered car rides. They post a remark as if they were riding on cheap shocks or no shocks at all. I have my shocks set at a stiff setting it only hurts my feelings when I hit a pothole. Also my front springs are cut, So thats a bunch of BS only vehicles with coilovers bounce all over the place. Shadow told me when he came over here he bounced all over the place too, he has coilovers, do not compare a coilover ride to a lowering spring. Sprints are great springs you dont see "Sprint" or other max.org members complaining about them. The only ones that complain are the ones that dont have them on their car. So go with any spring you want, a coilover is a totally different story.

 

The roads are bumpy around Memphis, and the folks that try to go "on the cheap" around here get to bounce. The folks I directly observed bouncing around this afternoon were driving on a sharply undulating road. I was right next to them, and I was not bouncing around at all. I stand on my earlier comment.

I do not recommend cutting or heating springs to lower a vehicle. Not only can the vehicle end up sitting at a strange angle, it can can end up handling more poorly than stock. I suppose there are folks out there who can actually complete a relatively safe installation with cut springs. They may know how to deal with the attendant geometry changes created in the suspension. But why assume the liability?

The main point I wish to make is this: If a person is going to put on new springs, s/he might as well spend a few extra bucks and have new struts installed at the same time. You only need to have an alignment done once. You only pay for labor once. You may actually come out money ahead by installing both at the same time. Plus, you can enjoy the benefit of having both right away, not to mention peace of mind.

That's not bum scoop. That's my opinion. By the way, I noticed you mentioned you have adjustable struts on your vehicle. Those didn't come with the car from the factory, did they? My guess is you put on your new struts when you changed your spring set-up... True? Peace.

 

Hehe! here we go again! This comes up like every week or two! Then we see sparks flyin'!

 

What is the retail on those Dropzone springs? Do you know of any deals?

 

What kind of rubber are you riding? What series? 35? Or did you dime a smaller size?

 

That's not bum scoop. That's my opinion. By the way, I noticed you mentioned you have adjustable struts on your vehicle. Those didn't come with the car from the factory, did they? My guess is you put on your new struts when you changed your spring set-up... True? Peace. [/B][/QUOTE]

OOOh no I at first had stock shocks with the intrax for a long time and then finally got a chance to buy the adjustables but yes you point out a good point for the guys that dont do their own labor with the one time installation of springs and shocks. And if where you live the road is uneven with bumps or whatever the case maybe you stand correct on the bouncing part.

 

Am I the only one that thinks lowering should be for handling before looks?

Bouncing of any kind is bad for handling. If you are pushing as hard as you can around a curve, and hit a bump and bounce, you'll bounce right off the road.

Weak damping and bouncing cause uncontrollable weight tranfer from side to side and front to back. This will kick your a$$ right off the road.

If you drive hard and bounce and dont lose traction, you could have been going faster...