I took my 96 cefiro to a shop to get the waterpump replaced, when it came back it started leaking oil ( which i already had talked about in a previous post ) but my engine is also sounding TERRIBLE, it sounded better than some brand new cars when i first got it, does anyone have an idea to what could be causing this? i uploaded a video on youtube so you can hear it aswell, it sounds like this all the time and the noise never goes alway, no matter if its hot, cold, first start, etc

 

Is it still leaking oil? Check your oil level and refill if needed, it sounds like it’s low on oil.

 

It is still leaking oil but its still on the right level, when i told them the car was leaking they just added more oil and said it had nothing to do with what they did and they wouldnt do anything else about it but i am about 90% sure that they didnt put the correct oil, just picked up something from the counter, i might try replacing the oil, do you think that could solve it?

 

What parts did they replace? DO you have an itemized bill?

 

Looking at the pictures from your other thread, it is leaking a lot of oil. Changing the oil might help but you have to fix that oil leak asap. I would take it back to the shop that did the work, that is not leaking from the rear main seal.

 

That sounds like timing chain noise and/or growling bearings or something not good, did they mess around with the timing chain and guides at all? I think at this point you need to tow it back to whoever did the work before more damage gets done

 

The best way to check the oil level is after it hasn't been driven for several hours. The dipstick will always show a high oil level if you check right after it's been driven.

They did not seal the timing chain access plates like I said last time. So it leaks oil by the liter.

I recommend taking the car to another shop.
have them inspect the work the first shop did.
Also seal the access plates properly.

Never ever do business with this shop again.
Tell everyone you know that they are incompetent and also refuse to fix their mistakes.

 

From the receipt they gave me they only bought a new crankcase gasket and a waterpump, and they refused to hand me the parts they replaced

 

They did mess with the timing chain, they said that this car is super complicated to work with, they said they had to remove the timing chain cover, and loosen the timing chain in order to replace the waterpump, i have no idea whether this is right or wrong, i've never had a car before, and i do not know any trustworthy mechanics so this whole situation is scaring the crap outta me

 

I’m in agreement with chrome91… your video sounds like timing chain clatter.

A water pump replacement requires messing with the timing chain, if for no other reason than to just move it out of the way.

Although I disagree that a chain cover needs to be removed for a water pump replacement, what’s done is done.

Your statements below reinforce that whoever did the work didn’t do it correctly and/or shoddily.

 

I’m thinking the reason why they had to remove the timing cover is that in the process of slacking the chain by manipulating the chain tensioner something dropped into the timing cover area and they could not retrieve it without removing the timing cover. That something was probably part of the chain tensioner.

I suggest you have another shop replace the chain tensioner, reseal both access covers and see how it goes. No guarantees there isn’t any further damage tho. Best of luck

 

"Crankcase gasket" is too vague. The picture from under your car shows new RTV (the grey stuff smeared around) on the lower oil pan. If they took that off for this job then you have to find someone else competent to go over ALL their work.

 

The two covers on the front of the engine need to be removed to service the water pump. It's driven by thr timing chain. This task does get a bit difficult unless one is very patient.

It is possible to drop parts inside and mess things up.
Apparently they did mess up. So that's why they said they removed the whole cover. This would have created a nightmare for the inexperienced mechanic.
That's why they don't ever want to see this car again .

You need to take this car to a mechanic who is familiar with the Nisssn VQ engines.

There have been many former members who had considerable difficulties because they did not follow instructions. Some destroyed their engines.

I have replaced the waterpump on my own Maxima.

 

That noise sounds like timing chain rattle from broken tension guides. Changing water pump on our cars is a tedious task. My bet is that when they tried to change the water pump, they had to loosen the timing chain. In doing so, they messed up the tension guides which are old brittle plastic.

 

are good mechanics becoming a thing of the past ? and i am sorry you took it to a mechanic who said this car was super complicated to work on, If they were only able to say that up front you could have went else where to someone more familiar with the task at hand. again all in hind sight so that cant be changed .

your best bet is find a trust worthy mechanic familiar with nissans, and take it from there. if you want to keep the car.

 

Its my opinion that ‘mechanics’ are an extreme rarity.

What those places that call themselves repair facilities are chock-full of nowadays are ‘technicians’.

Mechanics evaluate situations, solve problems, based on their knowledge of automobiles and continuously learn. Technicians read the words on the screen in front of them and if there’s more to the task then what’s displayed, they’re lost.

 

I did 4 years of college years way back when I was younger and have a red seal for automotive tech, majority under 25-30 years old nowadays will struggle with pre-2000 era vehicles lol and the majority i've seen will say they can do a job then halfazz it or bail halfway through. Even the first garage that said they could easily 2JZ swap my Crown got lost halfway through and made me pick up the rolling chassis that was halfass put together and hacked

 

yeahp, i think newschool train of thought is to trust computers too much , and sadly all these new cars are half computers so you can you blame em....? hahah

and dang how simple pre 2000 cars are compared to now..... hahha the 5th gen maxima was kinda ahead of its time with a lot of tech (NATS, ignition key with computer chip, etc)

it carries over to all sorts of trades too, freight drivers following GPS too much and not learning routes and roads maps, better routes if they were to know any better
designers at the hands of computers and not logic

i am all for technology in all things, but I think anyone old enough to know what it was like before the super tech is actually lucky to know the dynamic on how much to trust/follow computers and when to look past them.