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Old Feb 12, 2002 | 06:54 PM
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Performance Tires

Which ones are the best for the Maxima? and what do they add with repect to the speed and handling?
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 07:13 PM
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I have Kumho 712s 235/45/17. As you will hear frommost on the forum, these tires are great for the price. Check out whalentire.com for the price. The handle great. Wet and dry traction also very good. Take a look at them. I belive they are W rated tires so your question about speed I guess you dont have to worry. W rates is 168mph
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 08:01 PM
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Re: Performance Tires

Check out the surveys and comparisons at www.tirerack.com
besides whalentire and tirerack, try discounttiredirect.com for prices

Originally posted by sharkyjay
Which ones are the best for the Maxima? and what do they add with repect to the speed and handling?
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 08:14 PM
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The tires I bought are from Discount tire co. and they are called PHANTOMS. They are the same as the Good year eagles only they are made specifically for Discount tire co. They are ZR rated tire and look good and handle better. i went with the 225/55-16 on my factory ride and rims. They look perfect. Check them out they wil save you some cash$$$ and that is always a plus!
Old Feb 12, 2002 | 08:31 PM
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Re: Performance Tires

Originally posted by sharkyjay
Which ones are the best for the Maxima? and what do they add with repect to the speed and handling?
Check out tirerack like philpoe said.

What kind of performance do you want?
Does price matter?
Do you want a summer tire or an all-season tire?
Do you want the best dry and wet handling?
Where does ride comfort rank?
How about tire noise?
Old Feb 13, 2002 | 05:05 PM
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Re: Re: Performance Tires

Originally posted by ru4real


Check out tirerack like philpoe said.

What kind of performance do you want?
Does price matter?
Do you want a summer tire or an all-season tire?
Do you want the best dry and wet handling?
Where does ride comfort rank?
How about tire noise?
I want faster pick up. I want the best value for my money.
I'm not sure about the seasons, I think the maxima is comfortable enough. Noise is not a factor and it does get wet up here.
I have some Canadian all seasons Yokohoma avid, how does these rank?
Old Feb 13, 2002 | 07:24 PM
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I just got Kumho 235/40/18 because I asked the same question you did last week....

They're good for the cash and I hear they handle pretty good all around.

I'll let you know when I mount them on my Maxima when I get it this summer....
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 07:40 AM
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I'm going to ask the same question with a twist, because I don't think a search is gonna answer this one. Is there anyone on the board that runs on a roadcourse with the stock 16" SE rims on the car, or did you buy aftermarket rims? If you're using the SE ones, what are some of the different tire sizes and brands you have used? I was thinking of using either the Kumho's, Dunlop W-10's or BF Goodrich G-Force. I'm not looking for an R compound tire yet, just a very high performance summer tire for reasonable money. Any thoughts?
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by iwannabmw
I'm going to ask the same question with a twist, because I don't think a search is gonna answer this one. Is there anyone on the board that runs on a roadcourse with the stock 16" SE rims on the car, or did you buy aftermarket rims? If you're using the SE ones, what are some of the different tire sizes and brands you have used? I was thinking of using either the Kumho's, Dunlop W-10's or BF Goodrich G-Force. I'm not looking for an R compound tire yet, just a very high performance summer tire for reasonable money. Any thoughts?

The Dunlop SP Sport A2s handle GREAT, they're just awful in the snow...
Chad
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 10:59 AM
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Old Feb 14, 2002 | 12:24 PM
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welll

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ok well i really dont wanna be a dik to u guys but i really think all the tires u guys listed are great and all but to me they are not to good. my choice of tires well they are about 202 a tire. they are the michaline pilot sport. they have the highest tread its 400 and the rating is aa these are like glue to the road. im very serious bout this i work at BJs and i went to the tire department to ask for just worn out tires so i could use for the track well it turns out that the manager who is a really nice guy has a maxima and he uses these michalins he says these thins are great he showed me all the ratings and sht and he took me for a ride. i couldnt really feel it so i took the wheel and drove. i took a turn at about 54mph and let me tell you no squeaks no nothin sht was perfect well plus he has FSTB and a rear sway bar. but hey thats my 2 cents
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by maximachad



The Dunlop SP Sport A2s handle GREAT, they're just awful in the snow...
Chad
hmmm...i drove my A2's (215/60r15) in six inches of unplowed snow and they did pretty well. in how much snow did you drive yours?
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 04:10 PM
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Re: welll

Originally posted by Maximus44


they have the highest tread its 400

Highest compared to what?
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 04:29 PM
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Highest compared to what?

as compaired to most tires which are below 300 ok basically if ur gonna get any tire make sure the tread wear isnt below 300
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 04:38 PM
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Did you know that you can't compare treadwear ratings between different manufacturers? Each manufacturer sets its own rating system, so it's impossible to compare different brands. One brand's 200 might be equal to another brand's 400. They are basically worthless numbers.
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by Micah95GLE
Did you know that you can't compare treadwear ratings between different manufacturers? Each manufacturer sets its own rating system, so it's impossible to compare different brands. One brand's 200 might be equal to another brand's 400. They are basically worthless numbers.
nope not true the tire ratings are based together. they are also have ratings of a and aa. ask anyone who works in a tire place
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 05:04 PM
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From the Tirerack. the bold parts are what you want. While they "try" to be uniform. They admit that the treadwear ratings aren't consistent with different brands.

The Department of Transportation requires each manufacturer to grade its tires under the Uniform Tire Quality Grade (UTQG) labeling system and establish ratings for treadwear, traction, and temperature resistance. These tests are conducted independently by each manufacturer following government guidelines to assign values that represent a comparison between the tested tire and a control tire. While traction and temperature resistance ratings are specific performance levels, the treadwear ratings are assigned by the manufacturers following field testing and are most accurate when comparing tires of the same brand.

Treadwear

Treadwear receives a comparative rating based on wear rate of the the tire in field testing following a government specified course. For example, a tire grade of 150 wears 1.5 times as long as a tire graded 100. Actual performance of the tire can vary significantly depending on conditions, driving habits, care, road characteristics, and climate.

Traction

Straight-a-head wet braking traction has been represented by a grade of A, B, or C with A being the highest. In 1997 a new top rating of "AA" has been introduced to indicate even greater wet braking traction. However, due to its newness, this grade will probably be applied initially to new tire lines as they are introduced and later to existing lines which excel in wet braking, but had been limited to the previous top grade of "A". Traction grades do not indicate wet cornering ability.

Temperature

Temperature resistance is graded A, B or C. It represents the tire's resistance to the heat generated by running at high speed. Grade C is the minimum level of performance for all passenger car tires as set under Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards. This grade is established for a tire that is properly inflated and not overloaded.

Note: UTQG ratings are not required on winter and light truck sized


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nope not true the tire ratings are based together. they are also have ratings of a and aa. ask anyone who works in a tire place
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 05:36 PM
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Treadwear ratings don't mean anything worthwhile. Dunlop SP5000's have a treadwear rating of 340, I wore through them in 15,000 miles. Granted I beat the crap out of them and I'm not complaining, but this is a pretty good illustration of a worthless treadwear number.
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 05:52 PM
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wow

Originally posted by iwannabmw
Treadwear ratings don't mean anything worthwhile. Dunlop SP5000's have a treadwear rating of 340, I wore through them in 15,000 miles. Granted I beat the crap out of them and I'm not complaining, but this is a pretty good illustration of a worthless treadwear number.
wow i just learned somthin new i never knew that. i was told wrong
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by Micah95GLE
Did you know that you can't compare treadwear ratings between different manufacturers? Each manufacturer sets its own rating system, so it's impossible to compare different brands. One brand's 200 might be equal to another brand's 400. They are basically worthless numbers.
Not true, you must be thinking about jean sizing!

the treadwear is a standard number to be compared to by the ministry of transportation.

Its illegal to drive on tires with less than a 100treadwear on the roads( At least it is up here in Canada)
basically, a 400 treadwear tire will last 4x longer than the required minimum.
Ive sported quite a few tires, and i find that any thing with less than 300 treadwear stick pretty decently to the road, anything over 400, they will seem like driving on hardened rubber.
anything under 200 will maybe last you 2 seasons if youre lucky.

Stay away from the Goodyear product. JUNK.
Dunlop D60sport are pretty decent.
Michelin Pilot Mxx3 are very good, even though a high treadwear and hard rubber, they eventually get sticky and work pretty good.
The Kumho's are fairly new, and Ive talked to many guys with them and havent really complained.
BF compT/A are okay, Ive only had these when bald(they came on the last car i bought)

My favourite so far are the Toyo T1S and the Yokohama A520(very very noisy, but definitely the best in cornering and wet)
Im currently driving on Yokohama avs S1 intermediates. Ive had them on for two months and the front tires are already at 50%. Treadwear is 160 on 205 55 16w/stock rim. Very sticky tire, its got heat dissipating dimples, which also seem to act like suction cups and grab all the little bits of dirt and debris from the road and fling it into the fender wells.
In the rain, its hard to trigger the ABS.
Very nice tire, very nice ride , but they wont last long, very very soft.

just speaking my mind.
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 08:26 PM
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Nitto 555 <-- the best tires i have ever bought. I got them from Discount Tire Direct www.discounttiredirect.com(cheapest i found for tires and rims and i looked for about 3 months) It is also where i bought my rims.
Old Feb 14, 2002 | 09:01 PM
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Yokohama AVS sport, factory on some Porche 911 turbo's

BFG G-Force T/A KDW, very promising new product.

Toyo T1-S, SCCA Touring and GT car series run on these tires. 8/32 wet and 5/32 dry. "decent" wear.

Michelin Pilot MXX3, factory on Bugatti EB110, Mercedes Benz S500/600 stuck like glue and were pretty quiet.wore like butter. (warm up before hard driving)

he lied to you about the Treadwear grades. i never tell my customers that the treadwear grades are the same across all manufacturers.
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 04:21 PM
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I have Dayton Daytona HR i like them alot and had Firestone SH30 before liked them also but did not come in 16
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 06:26 PM
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Dunlop SP Sport 5000's (55's) for further inquiry go to www.tirerack.com they also have an excellent snow tire that Porsche has adopted! 96se auto 164,300 miles, all Amsoil lubricants/filters Dunlop Sp 5000's
Old Feb 15, 2002 | 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by trbo


Not true, you must be thinking about jean sizing!

the treadwear is a standard number to be compared to by the ministry of transportation.


It is true. Your government is wrong. Did you read the above quote from The Tire Rack? That's how it is.
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