Exhaust Questions Answered
03-04-2002, 02:28 PM
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Exhaust Questions Answered
Well I figured I might put another one of these together. This time it will try to answer some Exhaust questions since I noticed that those were popping up as well. In this I will cover Y-pipes, Cat backs, Mufflers, and the B pipe.
Y-Pipes
Y-pipes first off are the best bang for your buck mod. They have been known to give you about 15 HP at the wheel alone. On the 4th generation Maxima we have two precats coming down to our exhaust system from the manifold. This presents a problem for us because it robs us of horsepower. So what a Y-pipe will do is replace these with straight pipes instead of the precats. Now that you know what they are, you might be wondering some more info like who has them and the price etc.
Stillen
www.stillen.com
Cost: $395.00
The old ones had some problems in the flex section where it caused a “bee’s in the can” noise. That is the only thing to watch for if your going to buy one used. It is Stainless Steal and comes in nice chrome looking finish.
Cattman Performance
www.cattman.com
Cost: $399.00
Cattman is also a well known maker of the Y-pipe. The gains are about the same as Stillen's but in the past some people have had fitment issues with the pipes. One thing though is that you will need to buy the gaskets separately, which will run you around another $15 or so from the dealership.
Warpspeed Performance
www.Warpspeedperformance.com
Cost: Aluminized Steel is 195.00, Aluminum is 225.00, 304 Stainless TIG welded is 299.00 and Stainless MIG welded is 275.00
Warpspeed is another great company to choose for your Y pipe. They offer a few different prices depending on which type of metal you choose. I personally have one of their pipes and installed it on my own. I had no troubles at all. The pipe looked great, sounded nice and was a smooth install.
Budget Exhaust
www.budgetexhaust.com
Cost: $180 USD
Budget Exhaust started making the Y-pipe for us last. But they do make a nice pipe. It also comes in at a very nice price as well. Many people have tried this pipe and as far as I know I have not read any problems yet. They also include the gaskets with their pipes as part of the price.
For more help on installing Y pipes take a look at this link
http://www.seas.ucla.edu/~cheston/ypipe.html
Catalytic Converters
The Catalytic Converter is what controls the smog from your exhaust for the most part. It comes right after your Y pipe. The gain from Catalytic converters is said to be minimal, around 2-5 HP. This part can be bought from companies like
Random Technology
www.randomtechnology.com
Price: Around 180 or so depending on resellers.
95 – 96
Stock Exhaust 2.5”
Part Number 828531
96-96
3” modded exhaust
Part Number 823031
97+
Stock 2.5 inch
Part Number 822530
Local Shops
Also many Muffler shops may have them in-house as well. You can try calling around to check them for prices
Warpspeed Performance
www.warpspeedperformance.com
Prince: $110
Warpspeed is offering another performance product for us. They have offered us another option for High Flow Catalytic Converter. You can find them on their page under Maxima Upgrades.
Car Sound Catalytic Converters
www.car-sound.com
Here is another company that offers us a better flowing after market cat as well. They have a wide supply for many cars including our own. I could not find pricing on their page but have sent them an e-mail to find out. Once they give it to me I will let you know here as well.
B Pipes
B pipes follow the catalytic Converter and separate the muffler and the cat. This is the main part of Cat-back exhaust systems, which generally replace this pipe and the muffler. Most places sell the whole catback but there are a few places that will sell the B pipe individually. You will notice a few of them from before.
Warpspeed Performance
www.warpspeedperformance.com
Warpspeed again offers us more parts. The B pipe they offer will eliminate the “S” bend found in 97+ Maximas and also the crush that we have in our pipe. Both of those will cause air being able to move less freely and restrict HP. An E-mail I received from them told me you will gain around 2-4 HP and gain an average of about 2-3 mpg. So it helps on a few different ends. The price is now released at 50 dollars without a resonator and 70 dollars with one.
Stillen
www.stillen.com
The Stillen piece is a T304 mandrel bent pipe. Basically serving the same function as above you are gaining some HP and will see an increased mpg. Stillen's piece comes in a chrome look and can be found on the Stillen website. It is part number 503360 and runs for $259.88
Mufflers
The Muffler is basically then end of the exhaust line. Now instead of listing all the companies that you can buy mufflers from we should discuss they types. Only because there are way too many companies that make either specific, generic, fits all, etc choices of mufflers.
Now changing the muffler is what will give a car a much louder than stock tone out of the exhaust. Some people like this and others don’t. It really is a matter of personal choice either on sound or sight. One type of muffler that is going to be louder is called a “Straight Through” muffler. This basically gives the air coming out very little resistance and therefore you get more noise. This is why stock mufflers do not have a “straight through” design but give a little less HP. They opt for the quiet sound because that is what most people want. And the hand off is about 2 – 3 HP.
Cat back Exhaust Systems
Well the cat back is exactly what is says. It is the exhaust pieces needed from the catalytic converter back. This includes the B pipe and the Muffler. Some companies that offer cat backs I will list below. A typical gain for a cat back system will generally be about 7HP or less. However like everything else there are occasionally exceptions.
Apexi
MSRP $ probably going to be close to $499.00 from what I have seen.
Greddy
MSRP $ The SP - $650
MSRP $The Evo lists at $629
Stillen
"HKS and GReddy Maxima/I30 Exhaust. HKS offers a mandrel bent aluminized pipe and muffler rear section exhaust with a single 106mm stainless tip. GReddy's Maxima system is a cat back mandrel bent exhaust with aluminized mild steel pipe, stainless muffler”
Price: $650
Warpspeed Performance
Just combine their B pipe with a Muffler of your choice and then your done.
Price: 50 - 70 for Bpipe then price of muffler.
Well that is it for now. If you can give me any extra info or anything like that I will gladly add it where it seems I may be missing some. Or if you can give experiences with any of the above mentioned products then also that will be cool.
Thanks
SuDZ
Y-Pipes
Y-pipes first off are the best bang for your buck mod. They have been known to give you about 15 HP at the wheel alone. On the 4th generation Maxima we have two precats coming down to our exhaust system from the manifold. This presents a problem for us because it robs us of horsepower. So what a Y-pipe will do is replace these with straight pipes instead of the precats. Now that you know what they are, you might be wondering some more info like who has them and the price etc.
Stillen
www.stillen.com
Cost: $395.00
The old ones had some problems in the flex section where it caused a “bee’s in the can” noise. That is the only thing to watch for if your going to buy one used. It is Stainless Steal and comes in nice chrome looking finish.
Cattman Performance
www.cattman.com
Cost: $399.00
Cattman is also a well known maker of the Y-pipe. The gains are about the same as Stillen's but in the past some people have had fitment issues with the pipes. One thing though is that you will need to buy the gaskets separately, which will run you around another $15 or so from the dealership.
Warpspeed Performance
www.Warpspeedperformance.com
Cost: Aluminized Steel is 195.00, Aluminum is 225.00, 304 Stainless TIG welded is 299.00 and Stainless MIG welded is 275.00
Warpspeed is another great company to choose for your Y pipe. They offer a few different prices depending on which type of metal you choose. I personally have one of their pipes and installed it on my own. I had no troubles at all. The pipe looked great, sounded nice and was a smooth install.
Budget Exhaust
www.budgetexhaust.com
Cost: $180 USD
Budget Exhaust started making the Y-pipe for us last. But they do make a nice pipe. It also comes in at a very nice price as well. Many people have tried this pipe and as far as I know I have not read any problems yet. They also include the gaskets with their pipes as part of the price.
For more help on installing Y pipes take a look at this link
http://www.seas.ucla.edu/~cheston/ypipe.html
Catalytic Converters
The Catalytic Converter is what controls the smog from your exhaust for the most part. It comes right after your Y pipe. The gain from Catalytic converters is said to be minimal, around 2-5 HP. This part can be bought from companies like
Random Technology
www.randomtechnology.com
Price: Around 180 or so depending on resellers.
95 – 96
Stock Exhaust 2.5”
Part Number 828531
96-96
3” modded exhaust
Part Number 823031
97+
Stock 2.5 inch
Part Number 822530
Local Shops
Also many Muffler shops may have them in-house as well. You can try calling around to check them for prices
Warpspeed Performance
www.warpspeedperformance.com
Prince: $110
Warpspeed is offering another performance product for us. They have offered us another option for High Flow Catalytic Converter. You can find them on their page under Maxima Upgrades.
Car Sound Catalytic Converters
www.car-sound.com
Here is another company that offers us a better flowing after market cat as well. They have a wide supply for many cars including our own. I could not find pricing on their page but have sent them an e-mail to find out. Once they give it to me I will let you know here as well.
B Pipes
B pipes follow the catalytic Converter and separate the muffler and the cat. This is the main part of Cat-back exhaust systems, which generally replace this pipe and the muffler. Most places sell the whole catback but there are a few places that will sell the B pipe individually. You will notice a few of them from before.
Warpspeed Performance
www.warpspeedperformance.com
Warpspeed again offers us more parts. The B pipe they offer will eliminate the “S” bend found in 97+ Maximas and also the crush that we have in our pipe. Both of those will cause air being able to move less freely and restrict HP. An E-mail I received from them told me you will gain around 2-4 HP and gain an average of about 2-3 mpg. So it helps on a few different ends. The price is now released at 50 dollars without a resonator and 70 dollars with one.
Stillen
www.stillen.com
The Stillen piece is a T304 mandrel bent pipe. Basically serving the same function as above you are gaining some HP and will see an increased mpg. Stillen's piece comes in a chrome look and can be found on the Stillen website. It is part number 503360 and runs for $259.88
Mufflers
The Muffler is basically then end of the exhaust line. Now instead of listing all the companies that you can buy mufflers from we should discuss they types. Only because there are way too many companies that make either specific, generic, fits all, etc choices of mufflers.
Now changing the muffler is what will give a car a much louder than stock tone out of the exhaust. Some people like this and others don’t. It really is a matter of personal choice either on sound or sight. One type of muffler that is going to be louder is called a “Straight Through” muffler. This basically gives the air coming out very little resistance and therefore you get more noise. This is why stock mufflers do not have a “straight through” design but give a little less HP. They opt for the quiet sound because that is what most people want. And the hand off is about 2 – 3 HP.
Cat back Exhaust Systems
Well the cat back is exactly what is says. It is the exhaust pieces needed from the catalytic converter back. This includes the B pipe and the Muffler. Some companies that offer cat backs I will list below. A typical gain for a cat back system will generally be about 7HP or less. However like everything else there are occasionally exceptions.
Apexi
MSRP $ probably going to be close to $499.00 from what I have seen.
Greddy
MSRP $ The SP - $650
MSRP $The Evo lists at $629
Stillen
"HKS and GReddy Maxima/I30 Exhaust. HKS offers a mandrel bent aluminized pipe and muffler rear section exhaust with a single 106mm stainless tip. GReddy's Maxima system is a cat back mandrel bent exhaust with aluminized mild steel pipe, stainless muffler”
Price: $650
Warpspeed Performance
Just combine their B pipe with a Muffler of your choice and then your done.
Price: 50 - 70 for Bpipe then price of muffler.
Well that is it for now. If you can give me any extra info or anything like that I will gladly add it where it seems I may be missing some. Or if you can give experiences with any of the above mentioned products then also that will be cool.
Thanks
SuDZ
03-04-2002, 06:19 PM
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cheapest way get any y-pipe most are all the same just the way they design them. cat get a cheap cat like i found for 75.00 that has 02 sensor hole and hollow it out and for cat-back exhaust get it custom maid i paid 100 for cat-back piping with a universal muffler. that's the cheapest way to go.
03-05-2002, 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by maximadan96
cheapest way get any y-pipe most are all the same just the way they design them. cat get a cheap cat like i found for 75.00 that has 02 sensor hole and hollow it out and for cat-back exhaust get it custom maid i paid 100 for cat-back piping with a universal muffler. that's the cheapest way to go.
cheapest way get any y-pipe most are all the same just the way they design them. cat get a cheap cat like i found for 75.00 that has 02 sensor hole and hollow it out and for cat-back exhaust get it custom maid i paid 100 for cat-back piping with a universal muffler. that's the cheapest way to go.
SuDZ
03-05-2002, 12:41 PM
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Re: Exhaust Questions Answered
Originally posted by SuDZ
Cattman Performance
www.cattman.com
Cost: $399.00
Cattman is also a well known maker of the Y-pipe. The gains are about the same as Stillen's but in the past some people have had fitment issues with the pipes. One thing though is that you will need to buy the gaskets separately, which will run you around another $15 or so from the dealership.
Cattman Performance
www.cattman.com
Cost: $399.00
Cattman is also a well known maker of the Y-pipe. The gains are about the same as Stillen's but in the past some people have had fitment issues with the pipes. One thing though is that you will need to buy the gaskets separately, which will run you around another $15 or so from the dealership.
Catalytic Converters
The Catalytic Converter is what controls the smog from your exhaust for the most part. It comes right after your Y pipe. The gain from Catalytic converters is said to be minimal, around 2-5 HP. This part can be bought from companies like
Random Technology
www.randomtechnology.com
Price: Around 180 or so depending on resellers.
The Catalytic Converter is what controls the smog from your exhaust for the most part. It comes right after your Y pipe. The gain from Catalytic converters is said to be minimal, around 2-5 HP. This part can be bought from companies like
Random Technology
www.randomtechnology.com
Price: Around 180 or so depending on resellers.
03-05-2002, 01:01 PM
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Re: Re: Exhaust Questions Answered
Originally posted by ericdwong
this is incorrect. My Y pipe, even after it was sent out for repair twice had new crush gaskets included with them each time.
this is incorrect. My Y pipe, even after it was sent out for repair twice had new crush gaskets included with them each time.
SuDZ
03-05-2002, 01:22 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Exhaust Questions Answered
Originally posted by SuDZ
Ok how long ago was that? Just because when I called them when I was looking at my Ypipe I was told they would have to be purchased seperatly or bought at a dealer. Maybe this has changed recently?
SuDZ
Ok how long ago was that? Just because when I called them when I was looking at my Ypipe I was told they would have to be purchased seperatly or bought at a dealer. Maybe this has changed recently?
SuDZ
BTW good work SuDZ.
03-06-2002, 12:26 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Exhaust Questions Answered
Originally posted by ljl10
The gaskets have always been a "sold separately" item. I've never heard of them being included in the y-pipe purchase price. I think ericdwong had some special circumstances surrounding his y-pipe.
BTW good work SuDZ.
The gaskets have always been a "sold separately" item. I've never heard of them being included in the y-pipe purchase price. I think ericdwong had some special circumstances surrounding his y-pipe.
BTW good work SuDZ.
SuDZ
05-10-2002, 01:27 PM
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I got a guy who will put on any new exhaust system for me for 65$. I need to know what to get so that I'll end up spending about 500$ total out of pocket. I would like everything from the y pipe back... any ideas on where I should go or what I should look for?
05-10-2002, 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by NmexMAX
Aftermarket Y-pipes aren't leagal for street use. But some cars have been known to pass emmision tests with the aftermarket y-pipes on.
Aftermarket Y-pipes aren't leagal for street use. But some cars have been known to pass emmision tests with the aftermarket y-pipes on.
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05-10-2002, 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by hdortez
I got a guy who will put on any new exhaust system for me for 65$. I need to know what to get so that I'll end up spending about 500$ total out of pocket. I would like everything from the y pipe back... any ideas on where I should go or what I should look for?
I got a guy who will put on any new exhaust system for me for 65$. I need to know what to get so that I'll end up spending about 500$ total out of pocket. I would like everything from the y pipe back... any ideas on where I should go or what I should look for?
SuDZ
05-10-2002, 09:26 PM
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Nice writeups. Didn't see this 1st time it was posted.
Perhaps adding Courtesy Nissan's b-pipe option? Think it was like $150-$200 a while ago. Stainless steel, small resonator, no crimp. Gives nice extra 2" ground clearance for lowered rides.
What about the 5th gen Nissan OEM muffler? Excellent gains here too.
Perhaps adding Courtesy Nissan's b-pipe option? Think it was like $150-$200 a while ago. Stainless steel, small resonator, no crimp. Gives nice extra 2" ground clearance for lowered rides.
What about the 5th gen Nissan OEM muffler? Excellent gains here too.
05-11-2002, 06:16 AM
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Originally posted by SuDZ
I would look maybe towards Warpspeed then. You can gt the Y pipe for like 225+ then add a Bpipe on there for 50-70 and your still only up to about 295 which leaves you with enough to buy a RT cat for like 100 or so and find a muffler of your choice (most prefer stock for sound though) that should cover your budget just fine.
SuDZ
I would look maybe towards Warpspeed then. You can gt the Y pipe for like 225+ then add a Bpipe on there for 50-70 and your still only up to about 295 which leaves you with enough to buy a RT cat for like 100 or so and find a muffler of your choice (most prefer stock for sound though) that should cover your budget just fine.
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05-11-2002, 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by hdortez
So then you wouldn't suguest a setup where there would be a new y pipe and then a new high flow CAT thn a new cat back system? With the y pipe do I eliminate the Cat all together? Because here its a 25000$ fine for the shop tha removes and doesn't replace a Cat...
So then you wouldn't suguest a setup where there would be a new y pipe and then a new high flow CAT thn a new cat back system? With the y pipe do I eliminate the Cat all together? Because here its a 25000$ fine for the shop tha removes and doesn't replace a Cat...
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05-11-2002, 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by Motomax
This may be a dumb question but what is the difference between MIG and TIG welded.
This may be a dumb question but what is the difference between MIG and TIG welded.
http://www.awisco.com/anmanan.html
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05-11-2002, 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by BEJAY1
Nice writeups. Didn't see this 1st time it was posted.
Perhaps adding Courtesy Nissan's b-pipe option? Think it was like $150-$200 a while ago. Stainless steel, small resonator, no crimp. Gives nice extra 2" ground clearance for lowered rides.
What about the 5th gen Nissan OEM muffler? Excellent gains here too.
Nice writeups. Didn't see this 1st time it was posted.
Perhaps adding Courtesy Nissan's b-pipe option? Think it was like $150-$200 a while ago. Stainless steel, small resonator, no crimp. Gives nice extra 2" ground clearance for lowered rides.
What about the 5th gen Nissan OEM muffler? Excellent gains here too.
SuDZ
05-13-2002, 06:36 PM
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Ok, my question now is, what will make it illegal?
When I plan on upgrading, I was thinking along the lines of:
Budget Y-pipe
Warpspeed High Flow Cat
Probably a Warpspeed B-pipe or some other straight pipe
then just either some cheaper universal muffler or stick with stock
any part of that really illegal? besides the Y-pipe...i don't have emissions
and what is the purpose of the resonator in the b-pipe? and how loud can i expect it to be with an aftermarket muffler?...thanks.
also will most exhaust shops install the stuff i have mentioned? like midas, or maxi, or any other type of shop?
When I plan on upgrading, I was thinking along the lines of:
Budget Y-pipe
Warpspeed High Flow Cat
Probably a Warpspeed B-pipe or some other straight pipe
then just either some cheaper universal muffler or stick with stock
any part of that really illegal? besides the Y-pipe...i don't have emissions
and what is the purpose of the resonator in the b-pipe? and how loud can i expect it to be with an aftermarket muffler?...thanks.
also will most exhaust shops install the stuff i have mentioned? like midas, or maxi, or any other type of shop?
05-13-2002, 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by 97BlackMax
Ok, my question now is, what will make it illegal?
When I plan on upgrading, I was thinking along the lines of:
Budget Y-pipe
Warpspeed High Flow Cat
Probably a Warpspeed B-pipe or some other straight pipe
then just either some cheaper universal muffler or stick with stock
any part of that really illegal? besides the Y-pipe...i don't have emissions
and what is the purpose of the resonator in the b-pipe? and how loud can i expect it to be with an aftermarket muffler?...thanks.
also will most exhaust shops install the stuff i have mentioned? like midas, or maxi, or any other type of shop?
Ok, my question now is, what will make it illegal?
When I plan on upgrading, I was thinking along the lines of:
Budget Y-pipe
Warpspeed High Flow Cat
Probably a Warpspeed B-pipe or some other straight pipe
then just either some cheaper universal muffler or stick with stock
any part of that really illegal? besides the Y-pipe...i don't have emissions
and what is the purpose of the resonator in the b-pipe? and how loud can i expect it to be with an aftermarket muffler?...thanks.
also will most exhaust shops install the stuff i have mentioned? like midas, or maxi, or any other type of shop?
05-13-2002, 09:32 PM
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ex: warspeed y-pipe + budget cat back
05-14-2002, 06:53 PM
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Re: Exhaust Questions Answered
[QUOTE
B Pipes
Warpspeed Performance
www.warpspeedperformance.com
...
Warpspeed again offers us more parts. The B pipe they offer will eliminate the “S” bend found in 97+ Maximas and also the crush that we have in our pipe. Both of those will cause air being able to move less freely and restrict HP. An E-mail I received from them told me you will gain around 2-4 HP and gain an average of about 2-3 mpg. So it helps on a few different ends. The price is now released at 50 dollars without a resonator and 70 dollars with one.
...
SuDZ [/B][/QUOTE]
First - GREAT post SuDZ!
Secon - I'm confused. I scoured the WSP site and see that the
'b-pipe fix' is $50 w/out resonator, $70 w/ it and $5 for the O2 sensor input but the full b-pipe is $150 w/o resonator and $170 w/
it. What's the difference between the two options?
B Pipes
Warpspeed Performance
www.warpspeedperformance.com
...
Warpspeed again offers us more parts. The B pipe they offer will eliminate the “S” bend found in 97+ Maximas and also the crush that we have in our pipe. Both of those will cause air being able to move less freely and restrict HP. An E-mail I received from them told me you will gain around 2-4 HP and gain an average of about 2-3 mpg. So it helps on a few different ends. The price is now released at 50 dollars without a resonator and 70 dollars with one.
...
SuDZ [/B][/QUOTE]
First - GREAT post SuDZ!
Secon - I'm confused. I scoured the WSP site and see that the
'b-pipe fix' is $50 w/out resonator, $70 w/ it and $5 for the O2 sensor input but the full b-pipe is $150 w/o resonator and $170 w/
it. What's the difference between the two options?
05-30-2002, 09:07 AM
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Re: Re: Exhaust Questions Answered
Yeah the Warpspeed website is somewhat confusing.
The $50 without or $70 with resonator B pipe fix gets rid of the s pipe and the crush in front of our stock B resonator.
The complete B is $150 or $170 without/with resonator. They competely replace the stock B pipe with theirs. The complete B pipe without resonator is what is pictured on their site.
DW
First - GREAT post SuDZ!
Secon - I'm confused. I scoured the WSP site and see that the
'b-pipe fix' is $50 w/out resonator, $70 w/ it and $5 for the O2 sensor input but the full b-pipe is $150 w/o resonator and $170 w/
it. What's the difference between the two options? [/B][/QUOTE]
The $50 without or $70 with resonator B pipe fix gets rid of the s pipe and the crush in front of our stock B resonator.
The complete B is $150 or $170 without/with resonator. They competely replace the stock B pipe with theirs. The complete B pipe without resonator is what is pictured on their site.
DW
Originally posted by joaquink
[QUOTE
B Pipes
Warpspeed Performance
www.warpspeedperformance.com
...
Warpspeed again offers us more parts. The B pipe they offer will eliminate the “S” bend found in 97+ Maximas and also the crush that we have in our pipe. Both of those will cause air being able to move less freely and restrict HP. An E-mail I received from them told me you will gain around 2-4 HP and gain an average of about 2-3 mpg. So it helps on a few different ends. The price is now released at 50 dollars without a resonator and 70 dollars with one.
...
SuDZ
[QUOTE
B Pipes
Warpspeed Performance
www.warpspeedperformance.com
...
Warpspeed again offers us more parts. The B pipe they offer will eliminate the “S” bend found in 97+ Maximas and also the crush that we have in our pipe. Both of those will cause air being able to move less freely and restrict HP. An E-mail I received from them told me you will gain around 2-4 HP and gain an average of about 2-3 mpg. So it helps on a few different ends. The price is now released at 50 dollars without a resonator and 70 dollars with one.
...
SuDZ
Secon - I'm confused. I scoured the WSP site and see that the
'b-pipe fix' is $50 w/out resonator, $70 w/ it and $5 for the O2 sensor input but the full b-pipe is $150 w/o resonator and $170 w/
it. What's the difference between the two options? [/B][/QUOTE]
05-31-2002, 07:31 AM
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I can't find the thread, but I remember reading that the Apexi is really made for 95-96.
- Does it attach to the cat or the s-pipe after the cat?
- Does it reach the bumper since 97+ have a slightly longer bumper than 95-96.
- Does it attach to the cat or the s-pipe after the cat?
- Does it reach the bumper since 97+ have a slightly longer bumper than 95-96.
05-31-2002, 07:40 AM
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From what I picked up on Warp's site, 95-96es don't have an s pipe. 97+ do.
DW
DW
Originally posted by breaux124
I can't find the thread, but I remember reading that the Apexi is really made for 95-96.
- Does it attach to the cat or the s-pipe after the cat?
- Does it reach the bumper since 97+ have a slightly longer bumper than 95-96.
I can't find the thread, but I remember reading that the Apexi is really made for 95-96.
- Does it attach to the cat or the s-pipe after the cat?
- Does it reach the bumper since 97+ have a slightly longer bumper than 95-96.
08-18-2002, 05:35 PM
#37
question about the apex ws catback exhaust. is the b pipe section mandrel bent? if not, would you say that it's as good as say..... warpspeed's b pipe? also, if i were to purchase budget's y, they include gaskets, would i need to purchase bolts? like the ones connecting the cat to the y pipe?
08-18-2002, 08:21 PM
#38
if i were to change my y pipe and catback, i've heard ppl having issues w/ rusted bolts? is this only on the cat? and what are the part #'s on these? so i can go to the dealership and pick them up.
08-18-2002, 09:23 PM
#39
Originally posted by VQdriver
a resonator acts like a second smaller muffler to quiet the exhaust down. i'm debating whether or not to put on on a custom Bpipe for use with a straight thru muffler.
a resonator acts like a second smaller muffler to quiet the exhaust down. i'm debating whether or not to put on on a custom Bpipe for use with a straight thru muffler.
ps.i don't mind if its loud at wot,just want to get the most effect result w/o the sound when driving at 2500rpm 65mph.
08-18-2002, 10:06 PM
#40
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wsp b-pipe
I believe the price you listed for WSP b-pipe is for the "b-pipe fix", which is not the complete pipe (only the portion that replaces the "crush" in our stock pipes) - think the full b-pipe is like $150.
- good work
- good work