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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 05:44 PM
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Dynoed today. 151 hp. WTF

I couldnt beleave it. I thought it was a mistake or somthing but we went 3 times. I thought that the 95 max had 160hp at the wheels stock? Plus ypipe is dynoed to 15 plus PRCAI should bring me up to 180hp at the wheels give or take. NOT 151!!!!! Now my front 02 sensor is dead and im guessing my air filter is hella dirty but still. Those are some weak number.
Old Mar 10, 2002 | 05:48 PM
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welcome to the knock sensor club, get a new one.
Old Mar 10, 2002 | 05:54 PM
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lol. You think its the knock sensor? Why?
Old Mar 10, 2002 | 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by Nick Robinson
lol. You think its the knock sensor? Why?
cus just about every 95-96 needs one or already has a new one and the knock sensor will retard timing and you will lose like a lot of hp, i got 154 on my 95 with no cat, y-pipe, and CAI but i needed a knock. it was great for runnign a 100shot at 1200psi though, retarded my timing. that's why i didn't replace it, fast NOS cars are SLOW N/A cars.
Old Mar 10, 2002 | 06:29 PM
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Re: Dynoed today. 151 hp. WTF

Your O2 sensor was faulty during the dyno's or did this happen afterward. If it wasn't working and you had a CEL on, that could definitely do it. BTW, are you currently able to tell that the car is more slow? Just curious because sometime these things are insidious.
Old Mar 10, 2002 | 06:31 PM
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Re: Re: Dynoed today. 151 hp. WTF

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Your O2 sensor was faulty during the dyno's or did this happen afterward. If it wasn't working and you had a CEL on, that could definitely do it. BTW, are you currently able to tell that the car is more slow? Just curious because sometime these things are insidious.
the o2 wouldn't affect the dyno, when your at WOT it a hard looped program.
Old Mar 10, 2002 | 06:32 PM
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So i bet when i replace the 02 sensor my CEL will be on still and it will be the knock sensor, eh? HOw much are those 150?
Old Mar 10, 2002 | 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by Nick Robinson
So i bet when i replace the 02 sensor my CEL will be on still and it will be the knock sensor, eh? HOw much are those 150?
the knock sensor won't trip the CEL on but it will usually throw a code and i think they are like 176
Old Mar 10, 2002 | 06:46 PM
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got mine for 140 at nissan easy to change (hope you have small hands)
think of the good news once you fix it 30hp just like a small pill of
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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 07:17 PM
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Wow, yet another maxima member who has super low power figures despite mods. I have not dyno'd but my runs at the drag strip with ultra low (88 mph) trap speeds tell me something is a matter.
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Re: Dynoed today. 151 hp. WTF

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I couldnt beleave it. I thought it was a mistake or somthing but we went 3 times. I thought that the 95 max had 160hp at the wheels stock? Plus ypipe is dynoed to 15 plus PRCAI should bring me up to 180hp at the wheels give or take. NOT 151!!!!! Now my front 02 sensor is dead and im guessing my air filter is hella dirty but still. Those are some weak number.
ya dude somethn is wrong with your car man cause in my autotragic i put down 150 hp and 167 ft/lbs with CAI and greddy sp/rt cat.
Old Mar 10, 2002 | 07:48 PM
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Saturn vs. 4th gen Maxima

Saturn won...

... went home ran ECU check... 03 04 (knock sensor)


next week rematch

- m
Old Mar 10, 2002 | 08:23 PM
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doesnt the max have 190 hp stock? im maddd confused...i do feel that my max has lost power..but i dunno...oh well
Old Mar 10, 2002 | 08:28 PM
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doesnt the stock 4th gen max have 190 hp...why r u people saying 160? i dont get this, im confused as hell...well my max has lost alotta power...ill c wut i can do, how much is a knock sensor?
Old Mar 10, 2002 | 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by mattC
Saturn vs. 4th gen Maxima

Saturn won...

... went home ran ECU check... 03 04 (knock sensor)


next week rematch

- m
what the hell?! losing hope in maxima's all around...this is so dissappointing!
Old Mar 10, 2002 | 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by NyC97Max
doesnt the stock 4th gen max have 190 hp...why r u people saying 160? i dont get this, im confused as hell...well my max has lost alotta power...ill c wut i can do, how much is a knock sensor?
That number of 151 is HP from the wheels, not the engine HP. That is why it is not 190 or so.
Old Mar 10, 2002 | 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by NyC97Max
doesnt the stock 4th gen max have 190 hp...why r u people saying 160? i dont get this, im confused as hell...well my max has lost alotta power...ill c wut i can do, how much is a knock sensor?
The max is 190hp to the crank stock, but to the wheels, a 5-speed max is around 155-160 and an auto is about 135, someone correct me if an wrong.
Ryan
Old Mar 10, 2002 | 09:49 PM
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wow i didnt know that there was that much of a difference for autotragics, damn i really want a 5 spd now, i always thought till now my car had 190 hp, now im dissapointed...
Old Mar 10, 2002 | 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by NyC97Max
wow i didnt know that there was that much of a difference for autotragics, damn i really want a 5 spd now, i always thought till now my car had 190 hp, now im dissapointed...
hey dude don't be disapointed by the max, it is still a quick car compared to many others out there, and yes the autotragic does rob alot of power, but if you have the money you can actually make the auto faster than a 5speed after turbo/supercharger and torque convertor and dons vb, but if you don't have the money to do that then it is best to find a 5-speed or do a conversion, im still debating on what to do right now.
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Old Mar 11, 2002 | 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by dafro


hey dude don't be disapointed by the max, it is still a quick car compared to many others out there, and yes the autotragic does rob alot of power, but if you have the money you can actually make the auto faster than a 5speed after turbo/supercharger and torque convertor and dons vb, but if you don't have the money to do that then it is best to find a 5-speed or do a conversion, im still debating on what to do right now.
Ryan
damn Ryan, you already got a lot of mods in a very short time.lol You came to the last meet and installed the CAI, now you have greddy cat-back, warp-speed Y, didnt you also get springs and shocks? THis is all within a month, I guess I cant really talk much about spending money since I just bought Nitrous. Take Care
Old Mar 11, 2002 | 04:41 AM
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maximas have 190hp at the engine, autos have about 155 at the wheels and sticks have abotu 165-170 at the wheels stock, there is this thing called drivetrain loss.
Old Mar 11, 2002 | 06:26 AM
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Originally posted by dafro


The max is 190hp to the crank stock, but to the wheels, a 5-speed max is around 155-160 and an auto is about 135, someone correct me if an wrong.
Ryan
My stock auto was dynoed at 155hp exactly on a hot summer day.
Old Mar 11, 2002 | 06:26 AM
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knock sensor or o2 sesnor i installed new o2 sensors isn't knock sensor the same as a o2 sensor?
Old Mar 11, 2002 | 06:41 AM
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Originally posted by NyC97Max
doesnt the stock 4th gen max have 190 hp...why r u people saying 160? i dont get this, im confused as hell...well my max has lost alotta power...ill c wut i can do, how much is a knock sensor?
190HP at the crank.... Due to drivetrain losses, about 150-160 at the wheels
Old Mar 11, 2002 | 07:35 AM
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I just replaced my K.S. this weekend. It took about 15 min. Luckily I have small hands and only walked away with one cut. It didn't make a world of difference, but it is noticible and definitly worth the money. Cost about $140. You have to check the ECU for a code since it doesn't trip the CEL.

You will laugh your *** off when you see how small this part is.
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Originally posted by maximadan96
knock sensor or o2 sesnor i installed new o2 sensors isn't knock sensor the same as a o2 sensor?
Nah, not the same. O2 sensors are located in your exhaust system. KS is found under the intake manifold and detects mechanical knocking with the engine.
Old Mar 11, 2002 | 09:10 AM
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Keep in mind that if there is a consistent knocking in the engine, you still need to find out why its knocking in the first place.
Old Mar 11, 2002 | 09:10 AM
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how can you tell if a knock sensor is bad?
Old Mar 11, 2002 | 11:32 AM
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Knock Sensor

Where can you get a new one and how much would it cost? Can you get one online and put it on yourself?
Old Mar 11, 2002 | 03:41 PM
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Re: Knock Sensor

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Where can you get a new one and how much would it cost? Can you get one online and put it on yourself?
yes
Old Mar 11, 2002 | 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by BluFlame
Keep in mind that if there is a consistent knocking in the engine, you still need to find out why its knocking in the first place.
What could some causes of engine knocking? I know it is better to us 93 octane gas, what else could prevent knocking and what can we do if there is continual knocking.
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Originally posted by wicked1044
how can you tell if a knock sensor is bad?
The KS will produce a code but will not produce a CEL. Put the ECU in diagnostic mode and see if 0304 turns up. The other more troublesome problem is if the KS does not bring up a code but is inappropriately retarding timing as if knocking was occuring. Kinda like an O2 sensor that "tired" but does not trip a malfunction code.
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Originally posted by Mishmosh


The KS will produce a code but will not produce a CEL. Put the ECU in diagnostic mode and see if 0304 turns up. The other more troublesome problem is if the KS does not bring up a code but is inappropriately retarding timing as if knocking was occuring. Kinda like an O2 sensor that "tired" but does not trip a malfunction code.
hmmmm. so its a hit or miss.
i don't want to buy a new one if mine is not bad...
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