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Old May 7, 2002 | 10:39 PM
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97 Max (Auto) VS. 97 328is (5sp)

I was just thinking, anyone ever raced a 97' 5sp 328 with a 97' auto max? What was the result ?

Both cars have the same HP and Torue:
190HP and 205 torque.
Old May 7, 2002 | 10:40 PM
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I haven't but I think you'll tear him a new one.


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Old May 7, 2002 | 10:47 PM
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5spd you will lose, srry.
Old May 7, 2002 | 11:04 PM
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Just go out and race. Don't listen to the other guy. It should be close I think.
Old May 7, 2002 | 11:05 PM
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Originally posted by Cumalot
Just go out and race. Don't listen to the other guy. It should be close I think.
Yeah I'm with Cumalot. Give it all you got.

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Old May 7, 2002 | 11:21 PM
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i think you'll loose
but give it a go..
Old May 7, 2002 | 11:44 PM
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Everyone is predicting, did anyone actually race one before?
Old May 8, 2002 | 12:44 AM
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Everyone is predicting, did anyone actually race one before?
I have and beat it pretty easily. I have some mods though. I'm an auto too btw.


Instead of asking, you go and race, only way to find out.
Old May 8, 2002 | 05:56 AM
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You'll lose, not by much though.
Old May 8, 2002 | 06:38 AM
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i've raced a 5spd 328is w/ intake and exhaust, i beat it but not by much, he got a better launch, i am 5spd by the way.
Old May 8, 2002 | 08:16 AM
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i have a feeling his 5-speed will be the deciding factor, and it will probably help him beat you by a couple cars. just get a y pipe, then race him.
Old May 8, 2002 | 08:31 AM
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Just freakin' race and let us know how it goes so we can try that too 3 series SUCK! If i ever had money for bmw then i will get a 540! or 745 (yea rite!). If you have money to waste then buy a 3 series. Otherwise souped up civic will be an even match for 3 series.

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Old May 8, 2002 | 10:21 AM
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hmmmm

I think you will lose get crushed..but who knows do it cause you never know..you got my support. and if you win post it so we can cheer for you and if you lose post it so we can laff...
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Old May 8, 2002 | 10:24 AM
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Crap man, why not just race him and find out what happens? Unless you've got money or reputation running on the race...in which case, I'd spend at least 600 to put in a can of whoop a$$ gas (NOS). That'll surprise the hell outta him.
Old May 8, 2002 | 11:28 AM
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my friend has a 98 and he was behind me at a light and we started to go and he passed me with no prob=( im auto with cai and muffler and i had a system and he was all stock 5-speed.....
Old May 8, 2002 | 11:35 AM
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i thought 328s were heavier than the max. I could swear seeing somewhere in the magazine the 328 running upper 15s. I think u have a good chance even though he's 5spd.
Old May 8, 2002 | 06:19 PM
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I think that you will beat him, purely because he is heavier and also rear wheel drive. Power loss to the rear wheels.............
I'm talking straight line offcourse
Old May 8, 2002 | 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by Trippy_D
I think that you will beat him, purely because he is heavier and also rear wheel drive. Power loss to the rear wheels.............
I'm talking straight line offcourse
RWD setup is BMW's advantage, not the other way around.
Old May 8, 2002 | 06:42 PM
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Well my friend is getting his car in a couple of days so thats when i'm going to race him. I'll keep you guys posted. Even if i lose, its okay, a 5sp Max is waiting for me to pick it up soon
Old May 8, 2002 | 09:36 PM
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RWD may be BMW's advantage in take off but not while you are rolling.
the max would get more power to the wheels or atleast equal considering 5spd for BMW but then we still have the weight advantage.

I'm glad you have fun with your new BMW. you can talk about it in another forum when you get it ok?
Old May 8, 2002 | 10:34 PM
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you will get smoked....
Old May 9, 2002 | 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by Trippy_D
RWD may be BMW's advantage in take off but not while you are rolling.
the max would get more power to the wheels or atleast equal considering 5spd for BMW but then we still have the weight advantage.

I'm glad you have fun with your new BMW. you can talk about it in another forum when you get it ok?
I dont have a BMW!!
i have a Max. I will be racing a bmw.
Old May 9, 2002 | 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by MaxedOut97SE
you will get smoked....
Smoked?? I dont think so. Maybe he'll get me by a little bit just for the fact that hes 5sp. But i know i wont get "SMOKED."
Old May 9, 2002 | 12:07 PM
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Smoked?? I dont think so. Maybe he'll get me by a little bit just for the fact that hes 5sp. But i know i wont get "SMOKED."

The 0-60 times for a 328 5spd varies from the low to mid sixes. Once I saw a time for a 328is 5spd that was 6.3. The sedan isn't that far behind....those things are fast....A 5spd 4th gen might beat it....but if you're an auto you will get smoked....sorry....
Old May 9, 2002 | 12:15 PM
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The 0-60 times for a 328 5spd varies from the low to mid sixes. Once I saw a time for a 328is 5spd that was 6.3. The sedan isn't that far behind....those things are fast....A 5spd 4th gen might beat it....but if you're an auto you will get smoked....sorry....

lol...yeah right. Smoked?


Sorry but you have no idea what you're talking about. An auto Maxima isn't as slow as you might think.
Old May 9, 2002 | 12:16 PM
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Smoked?? I dont think so. Maybe he'll get me by a little bit just for the fact that hes 5sp. But i know i wont get "SMOKED."

He has a 5spd, of course he will say that. What did you expect? Typical.
Old May 9, 2002 | 12:43 PM
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Old May 9, 2002 | 12:46 PM
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lol...yeah right. Smoked?


Sorry but you have no idea what you're talking about. An auto Maxima isn't as slow as you might think. You're wrong. Sorry.
I have no idea what I'm talking about?? Well if that's true you've also discredited every major auto publication based on your butt-dyno. I'm using facts...you're using your biased opinion. Ok- go look up times for the 97 328i/s 5spds. They will range from 6.3-6.7. Maxims 4th gen auto? Well the fastest auto time I've ever seen was 7.6- and that was in '95- the fastest 4th gen year. You will be eating his dust. I've driven a 97 328i 5speed and I think my modded 5 spd would have a tough time winning. Those Bimmers are fast. So go race him and get left in the dust...wish I could see it. Be sure to turn your OD off!!!!
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He has a 5spd, of course he will say that. What did you expect? Typical.

Stop hating on me b/c my car is a 5spd. I just said that I think even a manual Max would have a tough time winning. This is how lame flaming **** gets started....I simply state the truth and I get flamed for it. Ok where is there any rudeness or hostility in any of my first posts???
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Originally posted by MaxedOut97SE
I've driven a 97 328i 5speed and I think my modded 5 spd would have a tough time winning.

You need some driving lesson then.
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Stop hating on me b/c my car is a 5spd. I just said that I think even a manual Max would have a tough time winning. This is how lame flaming **** gets started....I simply state the truth and I get flamed for it. Ok where is there any rudeness or hostility in any of my first posts???

Who's hating who? I seen you posted in the past, and you always have been pretty hard on auto Maximas. You're the one who's making fun of auto Maxima in your post above. So again, who's hating. I think it's just you.


Why would I hate because you have a 5spd? I'll be doing a conversion in the future.


Like I said, maybe you need to learn to drive better? I know 5spd guys on the board such as TheBlue, Nealoc187, VQDriver, and others should have no problems at all with a 5spd 328.
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Btw, I'm speaking from experience. I have raced against 5spd 328 numerous times and beat them. Yes I had mods and they were stock. No excuses too, a win is a win.


PejMax97SE: look at what you done. That's why I hate people posting about "if I can take this car or that car...blah...blah...blah". Go race and find out.
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Who's hating who? I seen you posted in the past, and you always have been pretty hard on auto Maximas. You're the one who's making fun of auto Maxima in your post above. So again, who's hating. I think it's just you.


Why would I hate because you have a 5spd? I'll be doing a conversion in the future.


Like I said, maybe you need to learn to drive better? I know 5spd guys on the board such as TheBlue, Nealoc187, VQDriver, and others should have no problems at all with a 5spd 328.

Ok say what you want.......Oh and BTW I know how to drive...trust me....I;ve never raced a 328...but I did drive one once and it was really really fast... Is this a stock auto vs. a stock manual 328? If it is then it's laughable. A 5spd 328 is like 6.4 to 60. I've never seen any faster time for a 4th gen Maxima than 6.6- and that was a manaul version in the fastest year. So based on facts that's why I say that even a manual Max might lose. So say what you want but the facts speak for themselves.....
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Ok say what you want.......Oh and BTW I know how to drive...trust me....I;ve never raced a 328...but I did drive one once and it was really really fast... Is this a stock auto vs. a stock manual 328? If it is then it's laughable. A 5spd 328 is like 6.4 to 60. I've never seen any faster time for a 4th gen Maxima than 6.6- and that was a manaul version in the fastest year. So based on facts that's why I say that even a manual Max might lose. So say what you want but the facts speak for themselves.....

I agree that he will lose, I'm not going to argue that. As far as him getting smoked, well he'll have to find out for himself. Fact? Sure I believe that. However, when you race anything can happen, so you never know. I'm done, this is pointless.


I swear if I see another "if I can beat this or that", I'll go crazy! Go out and race people...geez!
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I agree! F all those numbers.... JUST DO IT!
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I agree that he will lose, I'm not going to argue that. As far as him getting smoked, well he'll have to find out for himself.


Isn't that the same thing? To me it is. To me getting smoked is getting beaten by about 2 car lengths or more- with the winner pulling away as the speeds increase- which is what I think would happen in that race. So if you guys thought that I meant the BMW would make the Max a teeny-a$$ dot in the rear view mirror in a matter of 2 milliseconds you misunderstood me. I think the BMW would win by a fairly large margin...but you guys just don't consider that getting "smoked" while I do. Fair enough.
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Isn't that the same thing? To me it is. To me getting smoked is getting beaten by about 2 car lengths or more- with the winner pulling away as the speeds increase- which is what I think would happen in that race. So if you guys thought that I meant the BMW would make the Max a teeny-a$$ dot in the rear view mirror in a matter of 2 milliseconds you misunderstood me. I think the BMW would win by a fairly large margin...but you guys just don't consider that getting "smoked" while I do. Fair enough.

Hm...ok guess I misunderstood you then. It's cool now.
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Damn, whats the hostility about??
A 5sp will not SMOKE me. a "SMoke" is what happens when a 4cyl accord races a maxima 5sp. And i dont know where your getting your info from but a 328is has a 0-60 time in high six's. My friend times his own car and got 7.0 . The new 330ci 5sp does the 0-60 in 6.2 and your telling me a 97 can do it in 6.4?

Either way, this post was just for comments, no need to argue. And thsi is not one of thsoe "should i race" posts. Yes i will be racing just as soon as he gets his car.
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Either way, this post was just for comments, no need to argue. And thsi is not one of thsoe "should i race" posts. Yes i will be racing just as soon as he gets his car.
Good thing he doesn't have to break it in, so you can race him the same day and let us know
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Stop hating on me b/c my car is a 5spd. I just said that I think even a manual Max would have a tough time winning. This is how lame flaming **** gets started....I simply state the truth and I get flamed for it. Ok where is there any rudeness or hostility in any of my first posts???
A stock 5sp max will have NO problem beating a 5sp 328is.



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