sandrunner8

i've been on the org for a while now and i've read a lot about what you guys have said about Turbos VS Superchargers and it's been really helpful but i never actually seen anyone compare the two side-by-side...until now...apparently there's this place called PFIspeed in Colorado(did a search for that name but it didn't come up) that has a turbo kit for $4000...which is too rich for my blood but they had really good dyno charts of the Stillen S/C and their Turbo setup(which is only at 4psi) http://www.pfispeed.com/images/Produ...rbo-dyno01.gif

well i kno the arguement for which is better will always be out there but i thought i might add a lil coal to the fire and see what your reactions are to the results they posted

BlackCat

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SportCompactCar magazine ran an article a few months back on this topic. It's at www.sportcompactcarweb.com
in the Technical section.

HondaKiller718

"This kit uses a Turbonetics T04 turbo, HKS/Greddy/etc blow-off valve, Tial/Turbonetics wastegate, Spearco front mount intercooler (core size 20x7.8x3.5), and a Vortech FMU. The battery has been relocated to the trunk. The complete kit can be installed at our shop for $4000, and can take about ten days. "

Hey 4000, is not bad for all you getting.

BlackCat

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Since the Stillen SC kit is around $3600 that turbo kit looks pretty good.

HondaKiller718

Especially since the 4g price tag includes installation. Very tempting...

carnal_c30

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Turbos create alot more heat.. watch out for all your electronics and rubber hoses... they WILL fail

I'm thinking of going turbo with my own setup.. everything will be coated to keep as much heat as i can away from the electronics and all the hoses will be done in silicon... a turbo is the way to go but you'll have alot of issues i think in the future where you'll have to fix lil problems here and there... the Supercharger is relatively srtaight forward! (except the V2 idler pulley haha)

black019

hey, we all drive maximas here! we dont need the extra power! anything more than stock is just showing off...

JAY25

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Some info here for you guys especially for everyone that lives in a place where it gets very hot during the daytime, Turbos are powered by exhaust and in my opinion thats not a good idea for a daily driven cars, if it was then Stillen would have built a stillen turbo kit!!!
Superchargers breath cold air if you have the CAI of course and are powered by the pulley. There is absolutely nothing wrong with superchargers. Everyone makes a big deal out of a plastic pulley melting, I am here to inform you that the pulley can be changed, Danny here on the org sells a high quality alluminum pulley not for $300.00, but for $90.00, he sells both the idler and the belt tensioner pulley for the V2 supercharger. Turbo with a intercooler awesome idea I am all for it, if you have the cash and see great results from a turbocharged Maxima, dont hesitate jump on it $4000 installed gents is a great deal, to install a SC your looking at $800.00.

DiscoGsus

Emisions are another big reason, turbo's are notoriously bad because it takes even longer for the Cat to "light off" (The reason we didn't get the WRX for so long, and the reason we got the detuned 227hp rather than the 276(claimed) availible in Japan, is because of its horrible emissions.)

But in respect to the hot air and daily driving? If anything Turbo's handle decrease in air density (because of air temperature or altitude) better than a supercharger. They also have much more tuneability and boosting possibilities. There is a reason most(almost all) of the production forced-induction egines are turbos and not supers, and you know the big-boy car companies looked at both possibilities before deciding.

butternugtz

hey jay25, how do i get a hold of danny for the pulley??

JAY25

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his name is danNY, this is the thread he posted with pics of the metal pulleys!!!

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=111535




Yes I also forgot adjusting boost, how often will you use it? only when you go to the track or at the redlight and that wont be often. Good point about turbos.

jdm_mboy

This is Nigel's setup... the pics are of his car... its on the "our customers" section of the website...

MardiGrasMax

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Most all, I think not.

DJLAX152

Does anyone know if turbochargers decrease gas milage
What about superchargers do they also decrease gas milage

DiscoGsus

Well, since you are forcing more air into your cylinders, this allows more gas to be put in and still have all of it burn off with the O2 in the air. This is where the power comes from. They aren't horrible, especially on newer cars and well tuned systems.
But you will definitely get worse gas mileage.


And as to the "Most all, I think not." Care to make a wager
The vast majority of forced induction in production IS turbochargers.
VW, Volvo, Semis, Big trucks(diesels), Saabs, and Toyota, Mitsubishi..etc.

Superchargers = Frontier......and about 2 others I can think of.

ptatohed

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No Jaime, it's free.