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Old 05-26-2002, 06:47 PM
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13.6 @ 100 Mph 2.100 60'

Just got back from the track today. Didn't think I could improve much on my 13.8 but things fell together. Had my son coaching me and managed to do some pretty good times. Only made it to the semi-finals because I didn't pick up that my dial on the board was 13.5 instead of 13.8 which it should have been. Someone punched it in wrong. So I lost that round by .156 but learned a valuable lesson, make sure every run that the dial-in is correct, its your responsibility to make sure they do it right and don't stage until it is corrected, otherwise you accept it.
I managed to keep my reaction times in the low .5xx until the eliminations when the heat of battle gets to me and I did a couple of .6 and 7's but still managed to hang in there till the semi's.
It was great having people walk up and say hey your doing great man, can't believe you are doing that with a Maxima. It sure made a few people in our neck of the woods sit up and pay attention to a great car.
I was also surprised I could get down to a 2.100 60', didn't think I would ever make it but just have to experiment with pressures, launch methods etc etc.
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Re: 13.6 @ 100 Mph 2.100 60'

Originally posted by Jime
Just got back from the track today. Didn't think I could improve much on my 13.8 but things fell together. Had my son coaching me and managed to do some pretty good times. Only made it to the semi-finals because I didn't pick up that my dial on the board was 13.5 instead of 13.8 which it should have been. Someone punched it in wrong. So I lost that round by .156 but learned a valuable lesson, make sure every run that the dial-in is correct, its your responsibility to make sure they do it right and don't stage until it is corrected, otherwise you accept it.
I managed to keep my reaction times in the low .5xx until the eliminations when the heat of battle gets to me and I did a couple of .6 and 7's but still managed to hang in there till the semi's.
It was great having people walk up and say hey your doing great man, can't believe you are doing that with a Maxima. It sure made a few people in our neck of the woods sit up and pay attention to a great car.
I was also surprised I could get down to a 2.100 60', didn't think I would ever make it but just have to experiment with pressures, launch methods etc etc.
not bad wit a wee bit o spray...
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thats amazing time! where do you usually drive your car in Newmarket? I go to school in Aurora & sometimes I drive up to newmarket but I've never seen you before on the road.
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Nice time, who were you racing that race?
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great time man...congrats
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Nice time, who were you racing that race?
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Paul it was Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T dialed a 15.05 and ran a 15.165 had a reaction time of .875 so I would have smoked him but you gotta pay attention to whats going.
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All you have is CAI, exhaust, and 100-shot and you're running 13.6? Synki couldn't break 14.0 with all that and more! How do you do it?
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All you have is CAI, exhaust, and 100-shot and you're running 13.6? Synki couldn't break 14.0 with all that and more! How do you do it?
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its the Canadian weather
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Re: 13.6 @ 100 Mph 2.100 60'

Originally posted by Jime
Just got back from the track today. Didn't think I could improve much on my 13.8 but things fell together. Had my son coaching me and managed to do some pretty good times. Only made it to the semi-finals because I didn't pick up that my dial on the board was 13.5 instead of 13.8 which it should have been. Someone punched it in wrong. So I lost that round by .156 but learned a valuable lesson, make sure every run that the dial-in is correct, its your responsibility to make sure they do it right and don't stage until it is corrected, otherwise you accept it.
I managed to keep my reaction times in the low .5xx until the eliminations when the heat of battle gets to me and I did a couple of .6 and 7's but still managed to hang in there till the semi's.
It was great having people walk up and say hey your doing great man, can't believe you are doing that with a Maxima. It sure made a few people in our neck of the woods sit up and pay attention to a great car.
I was also surprised I could get down to a 2.100 60', didn't think I would ever make it but just have to experiment with pressures, launch methods etc etc.
what is wee o spray? Nos? at what pressure?
Nice time, especially you are an auto
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Street tires, drag radials, or slicks you ran on?
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Originally posted by Vyrus
All you have is CAI, exhaust, and 100-shot and you're running 13.6? Synki couldn't break 14.0 with all that and more! How do you do it?
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Well I have to have a couple of other things to support the 100 shot, like a FPR and Fuel Pump. But they are necessary to have by anyone who runs over a 60 or 70 shot. I have a tranny cooler for my automatic, and I run at full line pressure by switching out the dropping resistor. No VB Mod or expensive stuff.
Oh ya, I also have a pair of two year old M/T slicks which I run at 12 psi that my Son gave me along with the nitrous kit. I run at 1000-1050 psi with my $20 bottle heater, that was also given to me by my Son. Pretty good kid, he also took this picture.

PS That burnout was the first one I tried in Drive and it shifted to 2nd gear which really brings on the white smoke because of the tire speed, I was always doing it locked in 1st gear before.
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I think you have the second fastest nitrous auto 4th gen. You all know who's the top dog is.


So with Jime's run, who's the fastest auto 4th gen?
1) DoninTexas 12.2
2) SteveChicagoSC 13.2
3) Jime 13.6


Right? Anyone else I'm forgetting?
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Damn I think Jime is in the top 7 or so fastest Maximas period!
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I bet he owns the fastest maxima above the age 50!
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Originally posted by costcowholesale
I bet he owns the fastest maxima above the age 50!
Hey costcowholesale no name calling. Actually I think I was the only grandfather racing today.

BTW, I live one street above Mulock in those big Condo's on east side of Yonge. I'm retired so don't spend much time on the road except going to the races.
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And we say old ppl can't drive ... ha!

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Originally posted by Vyrus
All you have is CAI, exhaust, and 100-shot and you're running 13.6? Synki couldn't break 14.0 with all that and more! How do you do it?
-Cyrus
Synki had a big problem with traction. You could hear him spinning through every gear down the track.
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Originally posted by deezo
Synki had a big problem with traction. You could hear him spinning through every gear down the track.
But didn't he have slicks as well? But no VLSD right?
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Wow, good job Jime. I had a TON of traction problems when first used the 100 shot. 1000+psi is more like a 125 shot also. Best I could get down to was a 13.9, but I could never get traction. Good job. Hopefully after this VLSD install, I'll have to build up for bigger and better things...
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Congrats on the great time, and slicks do help out alot when it comes to traction I myself the last time sat there and spun my rear off in just 1st gear.
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Originally posted by JAY25
Congrats on the great time, and slicks do help out alot when it comes to traction I myself the last time sat there and spun my rear off in just 1st gear.
what is slick and vlsd? I'm pretty new with this racing stuff.
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Originally posted by cerumo

what is slick and vlsd? I'm pretty new with this racing stuff.
Slicks... as in the tires people use on the track (not street legal) that have little or no tread and are made of a very soft rubber compound that grips the road extremely well.
VLSD... Viscous Limited Slip Differential. Available only on Canadian 4th Gen Maximas. It is a traction device that delivers power to the wheel in traction when one is slipping.
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Jime....Great time, congrats. I tried my damndest to get into the 13's Friday night, but traction was absolutely terrible. My 60's sucked and I think I was also running rich (just stuck at 1000F even at the end of the run). I ended up with a 14.2 @99mph. I need a little advice when you get a sec. I'm still a 70 shot don't know if I'm going to 100 or going direct port yet. I wanna tune what I have to the edge so I can decide. Let me know when I can bounce a few ideas off you.
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Axles & Slicks

I wanted to know if running slicks on your Maxima's cause premature axle failure, compared to just street tires @the track? Because in our SHO's slicks pretty much mean the end of your axles, so few SHO's run slicks, just wanted to know if Maxima axles reacted to slicks the way our SHO's do. If Maxima's dont blow axles like this then i'll have to find a way to switch my axles with a Max(damn ford quality )
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Awesome! way to represent for the automatics
but great time, seriously..
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Re: Axles & Slicks

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I wanted to know if running slicks on your Maxima's cause premature axle failure, compared to just street tires @the track? Because in our SHO's slicks pretty much mean the end of your axles, so few SHO's run slicks, just wanted to know if Maxima axles reacted to slicks the way our SHO's do. If Maxima's dont blow axles like this then i'll have to find a way to switch my axles with a Max(damn ford quality )
I hear all sorts of stories about slicks etc. I guess some I believe, some I am a little skeptical. When I blow something I will post it. I will be racing all this year so I guess time will tell.
Don't get me wrong if you think that running slicks, nitrous, etc etc doesn't shorten the life of your car, it does, but as long as I am getting lots of wheelspin I think chances of blowing something are a wee bit reduced vs a solid hookup. That happens to me more running N/A because of a much reduced power output.
Most stuff I am doing now is seat-of-the-pants stuff because not too many people can give you advice or are willing to.
I do appreciate all the great folks on the org though, I have learned a great deal during the past 4 or 5 months through reading and asking questions, it sure made my Maxima learning curve much faster. Thanks

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PS I still have a lot more to learn though.
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That is nice time

I think we have found a true automagic
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Re: Re: Axles & Slicks

Jim(Jime), I am not naive in thinking that if you push your car more you will still get long last durabilty out of it. I just needed to know if the shock of the sudden traction with slicks reduce the life of the axles. I'll guess i'll have to find out the hard way later when I go to the strip with my MTX SHO.

BTW that is one f*cking quick 1/4mile time for an ATX Maxima, keep up the good times.

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I hear all sorts of stories about slicks etc. I guess some I believe, some I am a little skeptical. When I blow something I will post it. I will be racing all this year so I guess time will tell.
Don't get me wrong if you think that running slicks, nitrous, etc etc doesn't shorten the life of your car, it does, but as long as I am getting lots of wheelspin I think chances of blowing something are a wee bit reduced vs a solid hookup. That happens to me more running N/A because of a much reduced power output.
Most stuff I am doing now is seat-of-the-pants stuff because not too many people can give you advice or are willing to.
I do appreciate all the great folks on the org though, I have learned a great deal during the past 4 or 5 months through reading and asking questions, it sure made my Maxima learning curve much faster. Thanks

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PS I still have a lot more to learn though.
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Re: Re: Re: Axles & Slicks

Originally posted by RI-SHO
Jim(Jime), I am not naive in thinking that if you push your car more you will still get long last durabilty out of it. I just needed to know if the shock of the sudden traction with slicks reduce the life of the axles. I'll guess i'll have to find out the hard way later when I go to the strip with my MTX SHO.

BTW that is one f*cking quick 1/4mile time for an ATX Maxima, keep up the good times.

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what is an average 1/4 mile automatic and 5 speed sho?
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So your 2.100 60' time was on slicks? Sounds to me like there are even lower ETs to be had with your current setup if that's the case.

I'm sure my friend brian will be thrilled to read this... he's still stuck at 14.0 @ 103 with his 100 shot 5 speed hehehe.
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Originally posted by Nealoc187
So your 2.100 60' time was on slicks? Sounds to me like there are even lower ETs to be had with your current setup if that's the case.

I'm sure my friend brian will be thrilled to read this... he's still stuck at 14.0 @ 103 with his 100 shot 5 speed hehehe.
Funny dude....

yea...103mph with a 2.45 60ft.....hmm....


If someone would lend me slicks, I would EASILY be low 13s....I spin halfway down the track.
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well, brian, you haven't even made it out this year yet, right?

OH, and for the record on the fast autos. i know of someone else on here that's ran 13.2's in his automagic. i think the sn's furbiss...
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Average 1/4mile MTX & ATX

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what is an average 1/4 mile automatic and 5 speed sho?
The thing with the SHO is that they are very picky to maintence, you can have 200K+mile well maintained 3.0 Yamaha V6 SHO running mid-high 14's and a low mileage 50Kmiles(beat to sh*t) 3.0 Yamaha V6 SHO running mid-high 15's. But just to fair about things, a well maintained 3.0L(220HP-200TQ) 1989-1995 MTX SHO runs high 14's to low 15's depending on the driver, an ATX 1993-1995(about 300lbs heavier than a MTX SHO) 3.2L (220HP-215TQ) runs an avg. of mid-high 15's, low 16's depending on how well kept the cheap auto Ford tranny is kept. The newer and last 1996-1999 SHO's, have a 3.4L Yamaha V8(block is Ford, Heads were from Yamaha) with 235HP-225TQ and only were only sold with an ATX, depending on whos driving it, it will run low-high 15's, because the ECU on this SHO programs itself more/less aggressively depending on how its driven daily. So there it is the avg 1/4mile times for SHO's, I didnt plan on my post being this damn long but I just thought i'd let you know the times for all the different SHO's. Now when you drop a 3.2L into a MTX which originally only came with a 3.0L(say hi to TQ), and switch the cams on the 3.2L to 3.0L cams, you can easily achieve low-mid 14's w/o even trying on street tires. BTW I dont know if this is a problem in Maxima's but traction is hard to come by in our SHO's, the highest RPM I can launch at w/o staying there and just burning out is 2500RPM's. Plus I believe your engines are somewhat better in the strip just for the fact that you have more TQ than HP stock, our Yamaha's are complete opposite they loved to be revved, 220HO@6800RPM and 200TQ@4800RPM, which is no good for the strip other than finishing in 3rd gear(it does 105MPH@7000RPM in 3rd), now in the highway there great easily 140MPH in 4th no need for 5th unless u have over 400-500HP like some S/Ced SHO do runnnig 12-15PSI.
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Originally posted by Vyrus

But didn't he have slicks as well? But no VLSD right?
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No slicks and he was auto.
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Nice time!

As far as axle breakage goes, I think its more a relative function of what the 60' time is when comparing similar model cars. The lowest I know of in a Maxima is 1.9xx. So until you get that low I wouldnt sweat it. Ive pulled 2.0xx on street tires, I just got some slicks and am hoping to get into the 1.9xx or maybe even 1.8xx

I also just got the AAA 100 mile towing package too!
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Since on the subject of slicks, how much do they cost?
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Since on the subject of slicks, how much do they cost?
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The Mickey Thompson slicks that most guys run 22x8-15 are ~$130ea, IMHO these are the best choice for automatic Maxima's because they lower the gear ratio so much. I went with M&H 24.5x8.5-15 ~$150ea, with a 5 speed Maxima first gear is low enough already, and having big power you need more tire also. The M&H 24.5x8.5-15 are roughly the size of my 225x50-16's, MT 22x8-15's are about the size od 205x50-15s.
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Nice time!

I also just got the AAA 100 mile towing package too!
I have the same towing package, great insurance, just make sure to wipe the shoepolish off the windshield etc so they don't know you are racing. They don't seem to be too anxious to tow cars home that have been drag racing.

I am using the 22x8x15's, I also have a set of 205/45/15 Nitto 555R's that can do pretty much the same times. They are even a little smaller than the slicks but are noticably heavier. My car is not lowered and it looks like a 4x4 with them on. I think the reduction in gearing by the tires helps considerably, I take off about .3 N/A with just the tires.
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Re: Average 1/4mile MTX & ATX

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thks ri-sho,
interesting
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Re: Re: Average 1/4mile MTX & ATX

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thks ri-sho,
interesting
btw, your acura tl-s will kick *** both sho and max
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