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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 10:57 AM
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Front sway bar?

Is there a possibility of getting a front swaybar for a 1995 Maxima SE? I don't know if the factory puts one in or if there are mounting points to put one in. Anyone know?
Old Jun 12, 2002 | 11:17 AM
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Before anyone answers this question, you'll have to answer my question:

Do you want your Maxima to understeer like a Cadillac DeVille in corners (hint: that's what a stiffer front sway bar will cause)?
Old Jun 12, 2002 | 11:20 AM
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Maxima's have front sway bars. You can upgrade the end link bushings for about 20 bucks. Courtesy Nissan sells them.

You need 4 bushings, two each side.
Old Jun 12, 2002 | 11:22 AM
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Re: Front sway bar?

As far as I know there is no Front Sway Bar unit available.
The only front suspension option possible is the Front Strut Tower Brace. Its possible they may a make a Front Swaybar option in the the future. But thats a big MAYBE?? Hope this clarify things..



Originally posted by speedemn
Is there a possibility of getting a front swaybar for a 1995 Maxima SE? I don't know if the factory puts one in or if there are mounting points to put one in. Anyone know?
Old Jun 12, 2002 | 11:39 AM
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Re: Re: Front sway bar?

Originally posted by Morfeus17
As far as I know there is no Front Sway Bar unit available.
The only front suspension option possible is the Front Strut Tower Brace. Its possible they may a make a Front Swaybar option in the the future. But thats a big MAYBE?? Hope this clarify things..

Makes me wonder why I bother on here sometimes.

I think every car on the road comes with a factory front sway bar. If they didn't, can you imagain how poorly they would handle? The body roll would be so severe and unstable it would be hard to drive.
Old Jun 12, 2002 | 12:51 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Front sway bar?

Originally posted by njmaxseltd


Makes me wonder why I bother on here sometimes.

I think every car on the road comes with a factory front sway bar. If they didn't, can you imagain how poorly they would handle? The body roll would be so severe and unstable it would be hard to drive.
But wait isn't bigger always better
You can also get new polyurethane bushings for the front sway bar. They come in packs of two. I have yet to do mine, but I've heard good things from some of the other guys. I already installed my four endlink bushings, but I can't say whether they made a difference because I did them with my shock/spring install.
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 01:11 PM
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Please don't install poly bushings if you have AGXs, lowering springs, or any kind of suspension-stiffening upgrades. They just make the ride worse by increasing steering wheel vibration, overall cabin vibration over bumpy roads, and personally, they didn't make too notiticble of a difference as a tradeoff.

Anyway, this is just my personal opinion about the ES bushings. For those that have had good results with them, congrats to you.
Old Jun 12, 2002 | 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by Turd Ferguson
Anyway, this is just my personal opinion about the ES bushings. For those that have had good results with them, congrats to you.
Which bushings did you replace? If you replaced the lower control arm bushings I can see why you have a lot more vibrations, but the endlinks and FSB bushings shouldn't really make too drastic of a difference.
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 01:37 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Front sway bar?

Let me clarify!!! The Maxima does not have a FSB!!!
Period!!!


Originally posted by njmaxseltd


Makes me wonder why I bother on here sometimes.

I think every car on the road comes with a factory front sway bar. If they didn't, can you imagain how poorly they would handle? The body roll would be so severe and unstable it would be hard to drive.
Old Jun 12, 2002 | 02:18 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Front sway bar?

Originally posted by Morfeus17
Let me clarify!!! The Maxima does not have a FSB!!!
Period!!!
Go look under your car and come tell us that
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 03:22 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Front sway bar?

Originally posted by Morfeus17
Let me clarify!!! The Maxima does not have a FSB!!!
Period!!!
A sway bar is often called a Stabalizer bar. Front Stabalizer Bar or FSB.

And as xHypex said, go look under your car first - that is if you can identify it, but judging from your comments, you probably can't.
Old Jun 12, 2002 | 07:21 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Front sway bar?

Originally posted by njmaxseltd


Makes me wonder why I bother on here sometimes.

I think every car on the road comes with a factory front sway bar. If they didn't, can you imagain how poorly they would handle? The body roll would be so severe and unstable it would be hard to drive.
Actually not all cars come with front swaybars... far from it in fact, with the 4-door "family sedans." That is why I asked.

Coming on here learns ya' a thing or two, like this... that's why you come.
Old Jun 12, 2002 | 07:22 PM
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Upgrading the bushings alone isn't really worth it, especially if the bushings are still in good shape. But if there is no aftermarket FSB available then I guess I'll just wait until one does come about.
Old Jun 12, 2002 | 10:02 PM
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It might be useful to change the mid-bar links. Those are the bushings near the center of the bar where it mounts to the frame.

Leave the end links alone. With firm endlink bushings, the less "independent" the left and right side struts/springs become.
The car will ride harder and won't really handle much better either.
Old Jun 12, 2002 | 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by xHypex

Which bushings did you replace? If you replaced the lower control arm bushings I can see why you have a lot more vibrations, but the endlinks and FSB bushings shouldn't really make too drastic of a difference.
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I replaced all of them. Well, all of the bushings ES offered for the Max.
Old Jun 14, 2002 | 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by justmax
Before anyone answers this question, you'll have to answer my question:

Do you want your Maxima to understeer like a Cadillac DeVille in corners (hint: that's what a stiffer front sway bar will cause)?
Really? That's odd. The 4th gen Toyota Camry and also all newer Mustangs come with really thick front swaybars and they seem to handle just fine, even after an upgrade.

With an upgraded FSB and RSB wouldn't that stiffen up the whole setup entirely, thus eliminating any oversteer/understeer? Or does beefing up the front as well as rear cancel out the effects?

Another way to look at it is if one gets a FSB, RSB, FSTB, RSTB (?). Wouldn't that be quite a bulletproof handling setup... along with springs and struts of course?
Old Jun 14, 2002 | 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by speedemn
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Really? That's odd. The 4th gen Toyota Camry and also all newer Mustangs come with really thick front swaybars and they seem to handle just fine, even after an upgrade.
The Mustang makes sense to me. They want a thick FSB to compensate for their RWD oversteer.

With an upgraded FSB and RSB wouldn't that stiffen up the whole setup entirely, thus eliminating any oversteer/understeer? Or does beefing up the front as well as rear cancel out the effects?
I believe changing bars front or rear too much could cause you to oversteer or understeer too much (depending on which wheels are you drive wheels). If you changed both front and rear at different rates you could cancel out the oversteer/understeer and make the car neutral.
That's the idea for us. Our cars understeer so we get a RSB to help the car move towards oversteering (which our cars still don't do ). On RWD cars a FSB upgrade helps make the car more neutral by making it oversteer less (understeer more). For us a bigger FSB wouldn't be good because we're trying to move away from understeering.
That's my general understanding of the whole matter
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