What type of oil?
06-27-2002, 10:08 PM
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What type of oil?
my 95 Maxima has approximately 130,000 miles on it.
what type of oil should i put in it? any suggestions?
10w30 was the one that firestone had put in, is that the best one?
i never used synthetic oil. Should i start using it?
what type of oil should i put in it? any suggestions?
10w30 was the one that firestone had put in, is that the best one?
i never used synthetic oil. Should i start using it?
06-27-2002, 10:12 PM
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Re: What type of oil?
Originally posted by SkiLlz
my 95 Maxima has approximately 130,000 miles on it.
what type of oil should i put in it? any suggestions?
10w30 was the one that firestone had put in, is that the best one?
i never used synthetic oil. Should i start using it?
my 95 Maxima has approximately 130,000 miles on it.
what type of oil should i put in it? any suggestions?
10w30 was the one that firestone had put in, is that the best one?
i never used synthetic oil. Should i start using it?
Personally, i dont use it, but all I am hearing is good resluts about synthetics....
06-28-2002, 10:18 AM
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Re: What type of oil?
Originally posted by SkiLlz
my 95 Maxima has approximately 130,000 miles on it.
what type of oil should i put in it? any suggestions?
10w30 was the one that firestone had put in, is that the best one?
i never used synthetic oil. Should i start using it?
my 95 Maxima has approximately 130,000 miles on it.
what type of oil should i put in it? any suggestions?
10w30 was the one that firestone had put in, is that the best one?
i never used synthetic oil. Should i start using it?
06-28-2002, 02:53 PM
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Converted 1997 SE with 120,000 miles to AMSOIL 0W-30 Synthetic oil. Used AMSOIL Engine Oil Flush before installing the Syntheyic Oil. Have about 135,000 on it now without any problem what so ever. Had used Castrol GTX 5W-30 before that. Changed filter and oil every 3,000 before Synthetic conversion. It was not using oil before and is not now.
06-28-2002, 03:33 PM
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it really depends on your car. if your car is burning oil with regular oil 10w-30, you don't want to use synthetic, it will just burn even worse. when i had my Supra, i tried both... reg. oil wouldn't burn too bad, but synthetic would burn about a quart every 3000 miles. i suggest just try some different oil types. but in my maxima w/ 73k i use mobile syn. 5w-30... with no burning even @ the strip. if a syn. burns in your car, try a blend... and if you are still using oil with a blend, get some castrol 20w-50. that stuff is like cold maple syrup... really really thick. i used it in my Supra for a while, but i think it slowed it down a bit.
06-28-2002, 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by JMAXIMA
it really depends on your car. if your car is burning oil with regular oil 10w-30, you don't want to use synthetic, it will just burn even worse. when i had my Supra, i tried both... reg. oil wouldn't burn too bad, but synthetic would burn about a quart every 3000 miles. i suggest just try some different oil types. but in my maxima w/ 73k i use mobile syn. 5w-30... with no burning even @ the strip. if a syn. burns in your car, try a blend... and if you are still using oil with a blend, get some castrol 20w-50. that stuff is like cold maple syrup... really really thick. i used it in my Supra for a while, but i think it slowed it down a bit.
it really depends on your car. if your car is burning oil with regular oil 10w-30, you don't want to use synthetic, it will just burn even worse. when i had my Supra, i tried both... reg. oil wouldn't burn too bad, but synthetic would burn about a quart every 3000 miles. i suggest just try some different oil types. but in my maxima w/ 73k i use mobile syn. 5w-30... with no burning even @ the strip. if a syn. burns in your car, try a blend... and if you are still using oil with a blend, get some castrol 20w-50. that stuff is like cold maple syrup... really really thick. i used it in my Supra for a while, but i think it slowed it down a bit.
Of course, if the engine is burning oil because the rings are shot, not just high temperature operation, all this doesn't apply.
06-28-2002, 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by iwannabmw
Not necessarily. One big factor in oil consumption is the oils NOACK volatility rating. This test determines the evaporative loss of oils at high temperatures in percent weight. Significant evaporative loss of oil leads to excessive oil consumption and destructive changes in the oils properties. Not all synthetics (or regular oil's for that matter) are created equal. For example, Amsoil 10W-30 has a NOACK score of 6.6% while Mobil 1 10W-30 loses 14.98% of it's weight.
Of course, if the engine is burning oil because the rings are shot, not just high temperature operation, all this doesn't apply.
Not necessarily. One big factor in oil consumption is the oils NOACK volatility rating. This test determines the evaporative loss of oils at high temperatures in percent weight. Significant evaporative loss of oil leads to excessive oil consumption and destructive changes in the oils properties. Not all synthetics (or regular oil's for that matter) are created equal. For example, Amsoil 10W-30 has a NOACK score of 6.6% while Mobil 1 10W-30 loses 14.98% of it's weight.
Of course, if the engine is burning oil because the rings are shot, not just high temperature operation, all this doesn't apply.
06-28-2002, 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by JMAXIMA
leaking valves or rings is what i was refering to... but you mentioned that mobil loses 14% of its weight... over what time is this calculated? i change my oil about every 2.5 months or 3000miles, and the level is almost exactly what was put into it.
leaking valves or rings is what i was refering to... but you mentioned that mobil loses 14% of its weight... over what time is this calculated? i change my oil about every 2.5 months or 3000miles, and the level is almost exactly what was put into it.
As an example as to how it can affect a VQ though: I've run both Mobil and Amsoil on the track and in everyday use for 8K miles. The Mobil report came back with the statement that the oil a (5W-30) was reading between the ranges of a 5W and a 10W oil. I read that as the lighter parts of the oil were starting to burn off under the high oil temps. experienced on the track.
Back to your question, I don't know the time or temperature of the test, which is ASTM D5800, but I should be able to find out on Mon. if you're still interested.
07-08-2002, 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by JMAXIMA
leaking valves or rings is what i was refering to... but you mentioned that mobil loses 14% of its weight... over what time is this calculated? i change my oil about every 2.5 months or 3000miles, and the level is almost exactly what was put into it.
leaking valves or rings is what i was refering to... but you mentioned that mobil loses 14% of its weight... over what time is this calculated? i change my oil about every 2.5 months or 3000miles, and the level is almost exactly what was put into it.
07-08-2002, 06:14 PM
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Well seeing that your Maxima already has 130,000 miles, what you've been doing to maintain it must be the right thing. Just keep maintaining it, and it will go 200,000+ miles.
I use Mobil One 5w30, and change it every 5,000 miles along with a Nissan OEM filter.
I use Mobil One 5w30, and change it every 5,000 miles along with a Nissan OEM filter.
07-08-2002, 08:05 PM
#18
Originally posted by JsL
Why would 5W-30 give you slightly better startup protection and fuel mileage compared to 10w-30? Do they offer the same protection?
Thanx
Why would 5W-30 give you slightly better startup protection and fuel mileage compared to 10w-30? Do they offer the same protection?
Thanx
I run 5W-30 year round in temperatures ranging from 0-100 degrees. Oil analysis indicates there are no problems despite the abuse the car gets put through. Hope this helps clear things up a little.
07-09-2002, 12:33 AM
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THANX!!
Wow, I've been losing out...next oil change will be 5w-30. I live in San Fran, so the temp range is 45-85. They finally started to carry Mobil 1 5w-30 at Costco, but its the new Supersyn formula and not the old tri-syn stuff 
Wow, I've been losing out...next oil change will be 5w-30. I live in San Fran, so the temp range is 45-85. They finally started to carry Mobil 1 5w-30 at Costco, but its the new Supersyn formula and not the old tri-syn stuff
07-10-2002, 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by JsL
Update...I just went to a different Costco today, and they only carried Super-Syn 10w-30, no 5W-30
Update...I just went to a different Costco today, and they only carried Super-Syn 10w-30, no 5W-30
07-10-2002, 10:46 AM
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How much does a quart of Mobil 1 cost? I'm in Kuwait and there's no
local gas stations on the base.
local gas stations on the base.
Originally posted by iwannabmw
Since the SuperSyn is relatively new, Costco might have all the weights in all their stores yet. You can usually buy jugs of Mobil 1 at Wal-Mart or K Mart tends to have decent sales on the stuff every once in a while.
Since the SuperSyn is relatively new, Costco might have all the weights in all their stores yet. You can usually buy jugs of Mobil 1 at Wal-Mart or K Mart tends to have decent sales on the stuff every once in a while.
07-10-2002, 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by 97BLKMAXSE
iv been using valvoline 10w-30 and fram oil filters should i change or is this good to use
97BLKMAXSE
iv been using valvoline 10w-30 and fram oil filters should i change or is this good to use
97BLKMAXSE
Valvoline 10W-30 may be fine depending on where you are, your driving conditions and what your looking for in an oil. It's kinda hard to make a blanket statement like that as everyone has different priorities.
07-10-2002, 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by iwannabmw
Well, Fram filters are junk and aren't worth the money. You can do much better for "cheap" oil filters. There have been a few links posted about oil filter studies.
Valvoline 10W-30 may be fine depending on where you are, your driving conditions and what your looking for in an oil. It's kinda hard to make a blanket statement like that as everyone has different priorities.
Well, Fram filters are junk and aren't worth the money. You can do much better for "cheap" oil filters. There have been a few links posted about oil filter studies.
Valvoline 10W-30 may be fine depending on where you are, your driving conditions and what your looking for in an oil. It's kinda hard to make a blanket statement like that as everyone has different priorities.
97BLKMAXSE
07-11-2002, 05:03 AM
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Originally posted by 97BLKMAXSE
well im in mass and i guess i drive my max fairly hard what kinda oil and filter do you guys recomend
97BLKMAXSE
well im in mass and i guess i drive my max fairly hard what kinda oil and filter do you guys recomend
97BLKMAXSE
Be well!!!!
07-11-2002, 05:56 AM
#29
Originally posted by 95emeraldgxe
I used to use Amsoil in my car, it was pretty good. But i think Mobil 1 is better
I used to use Amsoil in my car, it was pretty good. But i think Mobil 1 is better
Ok.
Do you have a full breakdown of your oil analysis results after using both oils so that I can take a look at it? Did you go the same mileage between oil changes with each oil? Did you use the same filters and just change oils? I assume you have baseline analyses of both oils with lab proof that Mobil 1 is "better", so I'm curious as to what empirical values specifically indicate that it is better.
Teach us, PLEASE!
07-11-2002, 05:59 AM
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Originally posted by CSever05
Mobil 1. Best oil in the world.
Mobil 1. Best oil in the world.
Do you have a full breakdown of your oil analysis results after using Mobil 1 so that I can take a look at it? Do you have links to how the "Best oil in the world" award was giving to Mobil? I assume there was a study done that I just haven't read yet. I also assume you have baseline analyses of oils with lab proof that Mobil 1 is the "Best oil in the world", as I'm curious as to what empirical values specifically indicate that it is better than the rest.
Teach us, PLEASE!
07-11-2002, 06:51 AM
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97BLKMAXSE - There is a big meet this Sat. in Hopkington if you're interested. More info is at http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=126743
07-11-2002, 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by bill99gxe
*bump*
*bump*
07-11-2002, 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by TheNip73
What does *bump* mean? Fill me in as I am seeing it all over the forums and it personally annoys me. Moderator or not I think this practice should be brought to an end unless it has some unforseen meaning I could not figure out.
What does *bump* mean? Fill me in as I am seeing it all over the forums and it personally annoys me. Moderator or not I think this practice should be brought to an end unless it has some unforseen meaning I could not figure out.
07-11-2002, 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by TheNip73
Thanks. I will stick to my guns and say lame, yet again.
Thanks. I will stick to my guns and say lame, yet again.
My questions (on the previous thread page) have been unanswered, so I *bumped* it. If you read the entire thread, you would probably understand the context of the bump.
I'm still waiting for the experts to lead me to the truth about Mobil 1
07-11-2002, 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by bill99gxe
We seem to have a couple of experts chime in and say that Mobil 1 was the best oil in the world and I wanted further information and links that lead them to this conclusion.
My questions (on the previous thread page) have been unanswered, so I *bumped* it. If you read the entire thread, you would probably understand the context of the bump.
I'm still waiting for the experts to lead me to the truth about Mobil 1
We seem to have a couple of experts chime in and say that Mobil 1 was the best oil in the world and I wanted further information and links that lead them to this conclusion.
My questions (on the previous thread page) have been unanswered, so I *bumped* it. If you read the entire thread, you would probably understand the context of the bump.
I'm still waiting for the experts to lead me to the truth about Mobil 1
07-12-2002, 12:55 PM
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Today I received an oil report from Blackstone Labs for my '97 Max. Since I've had the car for almost a year and love it I thought an oil analysis would be useful.
I use Mobil Tri-synth 10-30w with an OEM filter. The oil had 4500 miles on it, the filter was new and no oil was added between changes. The oil was five months old for this test.
I drive four trips at 1 1/2 miles each 5 days a week. The rest of the mileage I put on is 80% highway and 20% city.
The engine had 68,000 miles on it at the time of the test and I do not know of anything to be wrong. Basically, it runs great.
The report generally states that all wear is at or below the average for this type of engine. The TBN at 6.5 is in their words strong, meaning very good. They went on to say, "suggest running 6,000 miles next sample".
Hopefully, this will help someone decide.
I use Mobil Tri-synth 10-30w with an OEM filter. The oil had 4500 miles on it, the filter was new and no oil was added between changes. The oil was five months old for this test.
I drive four trips at 1 1/2 miles each 5 days a week. The rest of the mileage I put on is 80% highway and 20% city.
The engine had 68,000 miles on it at the time of the test and I do not know of anything to be wrong. Basically, it runs great.
The report generally states that all wear is at or below the average for this type of engine. The TBN at 6.5 is in their words strong, meaning very good. They went on to say, "suggest running 6,000 miles next sample".
Hopefully, this will help someone decide.