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Old Jul 14, 2002 | 10:24 PM
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I'm on H&R's and I still have about 3 finger gap in front.....

I have H&R's in my car and I still hav about good 3 finger gap in front. My friends around me used Eibachs and theirs are barely 2 finger gap in front. Isn't H&R's suppose drop more than Eibach?
My friends around me with Maximas, used Eibachs and I'm the only one with H&R's. BTW my friends drive SE and mines GLE does that matter??
Old Jul 14, 2002 | 11:29 PM
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well if they are 5spds then there is the difference the transmissions make the difference in the manual the fronts sit lower cause of something to do with that versus the automatic you have (gle gotta be an auto) i would say that is the problem and answer if i remember back correctly
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 02:10 AM
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Originally posted by trinity000
well if they are 5spds then there is the difference the transmissions make the difference in the manual the fronts sit lower cause of something to do with that versus the automatic you have (gle gotta be an auto) i would say that is the problem and answer if i remember back correctly

but non of my friends SE's r 5spds tho....
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 04:55 AM
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ok well then i'm stumped i gues... sorry for the ridiculous grammar it was 2:30am when i wrote that... i am almost ashamed i am not scholar but that was horrible
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 05:05 AM
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I think Eibachs are 1.5 and H&R are 1.4 .
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 05:09 AM
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Woo Cho, three fingers is about right. >>

Originally posted by Woo Cho
I have H&R's in my car and I still hav about good 3 finger gap in front. My friends around me used Eibachs and theirs are barely 2 finger gap in front. Isn't H&R's suppose drop more than Eibach?
My friends around me with Maximas, used Eibachs and I'm the only one with H&R's. BTW my friends drive SE and mines GLE does that matter??
H&Rs are supposed to yield the least amount of drop.
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 06:04 AM
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Originally posted by amixam98
I think Eibachs are 1.5 and H&R are 1.4 .

No, H&R's suppose to drop more Eibachs are 1.5 and H&R's are 1.7
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by trinity000
well if they are 5spds then there is the difference the transmissions make the difference in the manual the fronts sit lower cause of something to do with that versus the automatic you have (gle gotta be an auto) i would say that is the problem and answer if i remember back correctly

you are backwards... autos sit lower supposedly, they weigh more... its the 5 speeds that have a larger gap
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 06:27 AM
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H&R's for a 5th gen sit uneven unlike the eibachs.

with H&R's the rear will be lower than the front.

eibachs sit nice and even for me
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 07:51 AM
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Originally posted by Woo Cho
No, H&R's suppose to drop more Eibachs are 1.5 and H&R's are 1.7
H&R's 1.4" drop front, 1.3" drop rear
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 08:38 AM
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'gurl is right, H&R is 1.4f 1.3r, but that is not universal. Some get more or less drop than others, because some stock Maxes are slightly higher or lower than others to start with, it is not an exact science. My H&R's have settled nicely though, and the rear gap is the smallest bit tighter than the front, but the car still crouches forward, because the front gap was WAY bigger stock to start with anyway. I have about the same gap front and rear as a nice stock BMW, which is all I ever wanted anyway. I never wanted to be SLAMMED, it looks good but for the roads I drive on its not practical. The ride of H&R's is excellent though. Ask your buddies w/ the Eibachs if they still have all their dental fillings...
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 08:39 AM
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well i have a 2k2 auto with h&r and SR20DEN has 2002 6 spd with eibach and he has about 1/8" more drop in front and same in back. although h&r says 1.4 and 1.3 and eibach says 1.3 and 1.0 who knows were they get these numbers.
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 08:42 AM
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Wow, lots of misinformation here. Eibachs lower you less than H&Rs. Just give it a few weeks, they will settle more and you will have less gap.
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 08:45 AM
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For you lazy people, here's the information from the first post in the FAQs:

How low will my car be with these springs?

Inches (front/back)
Eibach 1.3, 1.0 (stiff)
H&R 1.4, 1.3 (near stock)
Progress 1.7, 1.5 (near stock)
Intrax 1.75 all around
Sprint 2.0 all around (stiff)
B&G 1.6, 1.6
Ground Controls adjustable (very stiff)
MaxSpeed 1.7, 1.4 (near stock)
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 08:56 AM
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Yesterday at the S.L.A.P. show in Vista Cali, many people said the same thing. I have Eibachs, and I was sitting lower than other people on different springs. And that wasn't the first time I've heard it. I have had my springs on for about 35,000 miles and there were people who had there springson for a while there, and mine still sit lower. Who knows why...
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 08:59 AM
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I just installed H&R's and my car is dropped more in the back, and I also have about a 3 finger gap in the front. I would say yours in normal.
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 09:00 AM
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I have eibachs and I have 4 finger gap. But I have a really small hand, so my 4 finger gap is prolly like 3finger gap to others.
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 10:16 AM
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i installed H&Rs about 10 days ago. i have a 2 finger gap in back and about a 3.5 finger gap in front.
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by cwally
Yesterday at the S.L.A.P. show in Vista Cali, many people said the same thing. I have Eibachs, and I was sitting lower than other people on different springs. And that wasn't the first time I've heard it. I have had my springs on for about 35,000 miles and there were people who had there springson for a while there, and mine still sit lower. Who knows why...
i think bc your tires arent stock, combined with the weight of your system might have something to do with your "lower" drop.

for those of you that want more a drop like those maxima's youve seen... make sure to notice if theyre on the stock alloys or if they have aftermarket wheels. because i think an aftermarket tire/wheel combination can make a car appear to be lower by filling up the tirewell more.

someone slap me if i'm talking crazy.

Old Jul 15, 2002 | 11:11 AM
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SLAP!

Ha! Just kidding. But seriously, rims and tires can affect that both ways. If you have aftermarket rim tire setup, and the overall diameter of the tires is smaller, like 235/40 17 for example, your wheelgap will look larger, if you go to a size where your tire wheel combo is larger in diameter, like a 245/50 17, then you will see less wheelgap... So that is a factor both ways based on what you have.
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 01:11 PM
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well...some peopl just have fat fingers than others...so dun worry about it..u prob have thin fingers


give it a few weeks and let it settle.
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 03:22 PM
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I have H&Rs on my auto and the front is too high. About 3 finger gap, thats why I ordered some Sprints. 2" drop and stiff as hell, just how I want it to be. The H&Rs are too close to stock for me..your drop sounds normal
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by lcf
i think bc your tires arent stock, combined with the weight of your system might have something to do with your "lower" drop.

for those of you that want more a drop like those maxima's youve seen... make sure to notice if theyre on the stock alloys or if they have aftermarket wheels. because i think an aftermarket tire/wheel combination can make a car appear to be lower by filling up the tirewell more.

someone slap me if i'm talking crazy.

Or better yet, just get a coil-over system (true coil-over) to lower or higher anyway you want for your cars!
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 04:23 PM
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Re: I'm on H&R's and I still have about 3 finger gap in front.....

Wait few months and the gap will get smaller that is because it takes a while for the springs to adjust
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by trinity000
well if they are 5spds then there is the difference the transmissions make the difference in the manual the fronts sit lower cause of something to do with that versus the automatic you have (gle gotta be an auto) i would say that is the problem and answer if i remember back correctly
Yeah that's true about the SE. When i first got my max stocked i parked it parallel to a stock GLE and i noticed mine was tilted. My front was lower and the GLE front was highter, so when you dropp it of course the SE will look lower in the front.
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 05:48 PM
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I got H&R and Tokicos...

The real sits lower and looks nice ...

but the front has issues... i have a 3 finger gap as well. Trying to get my hands on a body kit, I think a body kit will help even the looks just because, hehe
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 06:09 PM
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Re: I'm on H&R's and I still have about 3 finger gap in front.....

Originally posted by Woo Cho
I have H&R's in my car and I still hav about good 3 finger gap in front. My friends around me used Eibachs and theirs are barely 2 finger gap in front. Isn't H&R's suppose drop more than Eibach?
My friends around me with Maximas, used Eibachs and I'm the only one with H&R's. BTW my friends drive SE and mines GLE does that matter??
Let me tell you from personal experience that Eibach's 1.3/1.0 is not close to truth. I unfortunately didn't measure my car before and after to have quantitative data for you, but just looking at it the day of the install I knew it was more than what they rated. Now after almost 4 weeks its fully settled and it is damn near perfectly "raked" with the front only a tad bit higher than the rear...I think its the perfect spring (obviously I'm biased as I haven't ridden in a Max with any other aftermarket spring!) for the performance enthusiast with the Max. Front Tokico blue shocks are very nicely damped (not quite perfect but great in most conditions and solid in others) and the 4th gen AGX shocks are perfect at setting 2 or 3 for all street driving.
Old Jul 15, 2002 | 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by DooBall
I got H&R and Tokicos...

The real sits lower and looks nice ...

but the front has issues... i have a 3 finger gap as well. Trying to get my hands on a body kit, I think a body kit will help even the looks just because, hehe
i know a way you can lower the front. here it is. the strut mount that people modified to used on the AGX, you can take the same strut mount and machine off about half cm off the spindle and this will make your H & R sit a little lower. I found out this, because i had did that to use my AGX, then i sold it, but now i kept the same mod mounts and i have tokicos in the front, which is lower than if i didn't do this. hope this is not confusing,,,let me know..i have 1.5 fingers now in my front. am going back to agx soon tho with 4th Gen Eibachs..
Old Jul 17, 2002 | 08:28 AM
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Originally posted by mpc578
I just installed H&R's and my car is dropped more in the back, and I also have about a 3 finger gap in the front.
me too
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