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Old Jul 28, 2002 | 10:07 AM
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Seeing the recent posts on 19" wheels, I gotta ask...

...why??
Why do you wanna do this knowing full well that wheels that size will:
- Make the ride 1000% harsher -because now you're faced with having to use tires with miniscule sidewalls on a car with already marginal suspension compliance for small bumps.
- Make you car slower in acceleration -because at 19" you're looking at rims that can weigh up to 30-35 lbs.
- Make your car slower in the corners on anything except a glass-smooth road (see first point above)

Is it because they make the car look phat? In other words..because you prefer show to go?

Flame suit on...have at it....
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 10:17 AM
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Re: Seeing the recent posts on 19" wheels, I gotta ask...

Originally posted by Galo
...why??
Why do you wanna do this knowing full well that wheels that size will:
- Make the ride 1000% harsher -because now you're faced with having to use tires with miniscule sidewalls on a car with already marginal suspension compliance for small bumps.
- Make you car slower in acceleration -because at 19" you're looking at rims that can weigh up to 30-35 lbs.
- Make your car slower in the corners on anything except a glass-smooth road (see first point above)

Is it because they make the car look phat? In other words..because you prefer show to go?

Flame suit on...have at it....
- Ride is very comparable to stock

- Car is not slower, click my homepage to see my 19's weighing up vs stock wheels, (these aint no 60lb chromed out combo)

- Car is quicker on all road surfaces, havent tried it off road though.

- Phat, no this is more of a tuner look. I like having show and go.
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 11:55 AM
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I think you are wrong in your assumptions my friend. Yes, the ride is supposed to be harsher and they are supposed to be heavier and everything...but, I never noticed any differences. Well, yes I have, the ride is much better in my opinion. But, I threw some new springs on there at the same time. As far as weight goes, I can only do this with my 'hand' scale, but the new rim and tire FELT noticably lighter than the stock wheels. It is a mod. People have differing opinions on most mods. Some are for performance, some are for looks and some are for both performance and looks. I think in my case, the rims added performance and looks. That is my opinion.
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 12:55 PM
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My Mille's weigh exactly one pound more with tires than my stock 2K2's did. I weighed both of them on a scale . I ran my car with a G tech and I lost .10 in the quarter. This is in the middle of the southern Calif summer. I can still smoke my tires from a stand still .Even if I run a flat 15 now, thats great. My car handles so much better, I can hit the twisties and it really sticks. As far as the ride is concerned, its VERY comparable to the 17's... If you want to compare it to 15's or 16's thats a different stories.... Yes, a Max on 19's looks PHAT. But the performance advantages are there too. I think you really need to drive one and see the differences. If you're in Cali, your welcome to meet me...
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 12:57 PM
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You guys are wrong. A 19inch rim will always be slower then a 17inch Rim with similar weight. The lower profile tire you go, the heavier the tires gets too. Thats why you dont see drag racers using big 19inch rims..
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by AznWontonboy
You guys are wrong. A 19inch rim will always be slower then a 17inch Rim with similar weight. The lower profile tire you go, the heavier the tires gets too. Thats why you dont see drag racers using big 19inch rims..
I have seen drag racers with 19's..... Visit the Mustang shootouts one day in So Cal.. Drag Radials on 19's are everywhere...If you go to import drags thats a different story, which I dont care for..
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by AznWontonboy
You guys are wrong. A 19inch rim will always be slower then a 17inch Rim with similar weight. The lower profile tire you go, the heavier the tires gets too. Thats why you dont see drag racers using big 19inch rims..
Nope. Drag cars use tires with a lot of sidewall because they need the ability to flex. With that much power they bend the tires and you can't do that with a low profile tire. However, you don't see that kind of tire on a F1 car though because it has no lateral stiffness for turns.
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by xtantmaxima


Nope. Drag cars use tires with a lot of sidewall because they need the ability to flex. With that much power they bend the tires and you can't do that with a low profile tire. However, you don't see that kind of tire on a F1 car though because it has no lateral stiffness for turns.
This is true. When they run with slicks on the track, they deflate the tire to produce that wrinkling you see as it grabs traction and launches.

We are discussing street driving here. I dont think anyone is going to be driving down the street with wheelie bars, and a tubbed out rear. My Maxima is my daily driver.
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by xtantmaxima


Nope. Drag cars use tires with a lot of sidewall because they need the ability to flex. With that much power they bend the tires and you can't do that with a low profile tire. However, you don't see that kind of tire on a F1 car though because it has no lateral stiffness for turns.
........... 19inch wheels are harder to spin compared to 14inch wheels... thats what im talking about..
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 01:37 PM
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Why is everyone dissin' 19+" rims? If you don't like them, everyone has their own opinion. However, don't base your opinion on what you've heard, you have to experience it for yourself. My opinion, all you guys with 19's, your cars look sweet. If you've noticed, none of them have complained about losing performance.

Hey Kloogy, you think your better handling could be from the Nittos, not necessarily the rims?
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by 8702

Hey Kloogy, you think your better handling could be from the Nittos, not necessarily the rims?
Could be. But going from a 7 inch wide wheel to 8.5 is going to help for sure. Thats why I always advise guys to get at least 8 inches wide when upgrading wheels. Clears room for some beefy tires. I might try 255's in the future....I have absoloutely no rubbing, and Ive had 4 people in the car.

What it comes down to is , if you dont like them , dont buy them. I asked for advice from members who had them, before I spent my money. I always try to answer any questions that people PM me about. It's your money, so do as you will.
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by kloogy


What it comes down to is , if you dont like them , dont buy them. I asked for advice from members who had them, before I spent my money. I always try to answer any questions that people PM me about. It's your money, so do as you will.
Exactly... If I had the money, I would definitely get some 19's. heheh
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 01:47 PM
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Ponder This:

The reason for making rims bigger on race cars is what?

...To prevent bottoming out and loosing control during a high speed blowout.

...To acommodate larger brake rotors.

If your car has neither the ride drop and/or the big brakes which require 19" rims, then its just for the look, or whatever that is. Peace.
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 01:49 PM
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That is true. Using that theory, everyone rip your wings off your cars on the count of 3...... since they are useles , unless they are angled properly, and you are drafting behind some toothless Nascar driver...
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 02:00 PM
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Re: Ponder This:

Originally posted by JSpecMax

...To acommodate larger brake rotors.
Kloogy, when are you getting yours? Your rims are practically begging for them.
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 02:07 PM
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If you've seen Kloogys wheels in person they don't look ghetto AT ALL. The look very classy. IMHO they enhance the look of the car dramatically. Now if you como them with stickers and neon...that's a different story!
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 02:10 PM
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Damn you Noah, now I have to cancel my Fast and the Furious decal kit, that I ordered !
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by NYC2SD
If you've seen Kloogys wheels in person they don't look ghetto AT ALL. The look very classy. IMHO they enhance the look of the car dramatically. Now if you como them with stickers and neon...that's a different story!
Yes I agree, his rims are bad ****..
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 02:13 PM
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going 8" wide makes a big differents in straight aways and in turns than 7". Every body has there own style. I would hate to see some one with the same exact set up as mine. SO 19",18" 17", wider is better. I like the PHAT LIP!
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by kloogy
Damn you Noah, now I have to cancel my Fast and the Furious decal kit, that I ordered !
Actually I was hoping you'd have a POWERED BY FORD sticker left over from your mustang days!
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by NYC2SD
Actually I was hoping you'd have a POWERED BY FORD sticker left over from your mustang days!
He He... Stop the Ford bashing, or I'll go get my 89 from the guy I sold it to and .VRRRRRROOOOM !!! .....12Sec ET !!.... , only sticker on that one was a Ford Motorsport on the rear quarter window.....
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 04:03 PM
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Re: Ponder This:

Originally posted by JSpecMax

...To acommodate larger brake rotors.

If your car has neither the ride drop and/or the big brakes which require 19" rims, then its just for the look, or whatever that is. Peace.
sheez...i don't know what kinda rotors/calipers you're talking about but those gotta be really really huge!!! most upgraded brake systems will fit in a 17 inch wheels with proper offset.
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 05:40 PM
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The rotors aren't necessarily the issue. The problem would be the calipers. I could not get my brakes to fit on 18's, or the stock 17's, so 19's it was...and I still needed to have custom 10mm spacers made.
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by look2me40
The rotors aren't necessarily the issue. The problem would be the calipers. I could not get my brakes to fit on 18's, or the stock 17's, so 19's it was...and I still needed to have custom 10mm spacers made.
Thats what I need, your Brake kit !
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by AznWontonboy
You guys are wrong. A 19inch rim will always be slower then a 17inch Rim with similar weight. The lower profile tire you go, the heavier the tires gets too. Thats why you dont see drag racers using big 19inch rims..
I guess you don't remember my old sig pic...
The one of my pre-stage burnout on my 19" rims...
Yes, I could rip off 2.1 sec 60' times on 19" rims...
And run the 1/4 mi in 13 seconds...
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by AznWontonboy
........... 19inch wheels are harder to spin compared to 14inch wheels... thats what im talking about..
and when you are making alot of power, that is a BLESSING.
trust me.
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 11:04 PM
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I don't know what you guys are thinking putting 19" wheels on your car! Don't you know that REAL high performance cars run dragster slicks on all 4 wheels!



j/k For maximum traction and STRAIGHT LINE performance, use a 13" wheel with about 6" of sidewall. BUT for the best HANDLING use a 19" with a 2.5" sidewall. The 19" will still provide a large enough contact patch to stick to the road and provide straight line performance. Most of our cars are daily drivers and therefore 19" would be the better choice. Besides 6" of sidewall don't handle the twisties too well.
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 11:11 PM
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I hate to be politically incorrect, but I really dont give a Rat's A$$ what anybody thinks. I got them because I wanted them. I thank you guys for the praises, but if you dont like them , or want to flame them... Have a nice day ! ......
Old Jul 28, 2002 | 11:51 PM
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Originally posted by My 4DSC


and when you are making alot of power, that is a BLESSING.
trust me.
True, but if you could do it all over again, 19inch on slicks(is this even possible?) or 14inch on slicks?
Old Jul 29, 2002 | 12:09 AM
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Also forgot, tire technology has improved exponenially over the years. I've ridden in my buddy's Expedition on a 3/5 drop with 305-35-23 inch tires and it rides smooth. Compared to the SE w/ 17" set-up the 19 is not going to be that bad. Compared with the 2K GXE 16" then you may have complaints of a rough ride.
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