BOSE or BLOWS? Need advice for audio problem
08-05-2002, 12:55 PM
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BOSE or BLOWS? Need advice for audio problem
Hey,
I'm have a strange problem with my audio and since I'm not an auto audiophile I need suggestions.
When I'm playing the CD6 my entire left side speakers go in and out. When that happens I balance the speakers all the way to left to get clear on the sound and the speakers sound like they're blown or something. Muffled, crackling, and very low volume.
Here's the kicker...whenever I cut straight to the radio all speakers play absolutely fine and whats more is that when I hit bumps in the road with the CD player going the left speakers get thrown out/down or if they were already down they bumps throw the speakers back into normal balance and function.
This problem is only in relation to the CD6 player. I am already envisioning a nightmare at the Nissan Service Dept telling they can't duplicate problem, blah blah blah.
I've had the Max since Memorial Day. Any help or suggestions? Thanks.
I'm have a strange problem with my audio and since I'm not an auto audiophile I need suggestions.
When I'm playing the CD6 my entire left side speakers go in and out. When that happens I balance the speakers all the way to left to get clear on the sound and the speakers sound like they're blown or something. Muffled, crackling, and very low volume.
Here's the kicker...whenever I cut straight to the radio all speakers play absolutely fine and whats more is that when I hit bumps in the road with the CD player going the left speakers get thrown out/down or if they were already down they bumps throw the speakers back into normal balance and function.
This problem is only in relation to the CD6 player. I am already envisioning a nightmare at the Nissan Service Dept telling they can't duplicate problem, blah blah blah.
I've had the Max since Memorial Day. Any help or suggestions? Thanks.
08-05-2002, 01:02 PM
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Re: BOSE or BLOWS? Need advice for audio problem
Originally posted by ThomBlaze2k2SE
Hey,
...I've had the Max since Memorial Day. Any help or suggestions? Thanks.
Hey,
...I've had the Max since Memorial Day. Any help or suggestions? Thanks.
Since your car is very new (read: warranty) take it in, duplicate it for them right in front of them, take several disk to show them so they cant say its your music/disk. Once the bump "fixes" the issue, can you swap to radio and back to CD to "break" it again?
And most of all if they are going to take the radio out/diagnose it....TAKE YOUR CDS OUT AND HOME. The morons at my service left the CD in the head and shipped it out....took 6 weeks to get it back...DOH!
08-05-2002, 01:08 PM
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Re: BOSE or BLOWS? Need advice for audio problem
I had the same exzct problem. Thats really funny. I took it to nissan and they say its from the burned cds. They ordered me a new radio with no problem. Do you use burned cds.
Originally posted by ThomBlaze2k2SE
Hey,
I'm have a strange problem with my audio and since I'm not an auto audiophile I need suggestions.
When I'm playing the CD6 my entire left side speakers go in and out. When that happens I balance the speakers all the way to left to get clear on the sound and the speakers sound like they're blown or something. Muffled, crackling, and very low volume.
Here's the kicker...whenever I cut straight to the radio all speakers play absolutely fine and whats more is that when I hit bumps in the road with the CD player going the left speakers get thrown out/down or if they were already down they bumps throw the speakers back into normal balance and function.
This problem is only in relation to the CD6 player. I am already envisioning a nightmare at the Nissan Service Dept telling they can't duplicate problem, blah blah blah.
I've had the Max since Memorial Day. Any help or suggestions? Thanks.
Hey,
I'm have a strange problem with my audio and since I'm not an auto audiophile I need suggestions.
When I'm playing the CD6 my entire left side speakers go in and out. When that happens I balance the speakers all the way to left to get clear on the sound and the speakers sound like they're blown or something. Muffled, crackling, and very low volume.
Here's the kicker...whenever I cut straight to the radio all speakers play absolutely fine and whats more is that when I hit bumps in the road with the CD player going the left speakers get thrown out/down or if they were already down they bumps throw the speakers back into normal balance and function.
This problem is only in relation to the CD6 player. I am already envisioning a nightmare at the Nissan Service Dept telling they can't duplicate problem, blah blah blah.
I've had the Max since Memorial Day. Any help or suggestions? Thanks.
08-05-2002, 01:15 PM
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Re: Re: BOSE or BLOWS? Need advice for audio problem
Originally posted by Colonel
Once the bump "fixes" the issue, can you swap to radio and back to CD to "break" it again?
And most of all if they are going to take the radio out/diagnose it....TAKE YOUR CDS OUT AND HOME. The morons at my service left the CD in the head and shipped it out....took 6 weeks to get it back...DOH!
Once the bump "fixes" the issue, can you swap to radio and back to CD to "break" it again?
And most of all if they are going to take the radio out/diagnose it....TAKE YOUR CDS OUT AND HOME. The morons at my service left the CD in the head and shipped it out....took 6 weeks to get it back...DOH!
Regards,
08-05-2002, 01:23 PM
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Re: Re: BOSE or BLOWS? Need advice for audio problem
Originally posted by juice
I had the same exzct problem. Thats really funny. I took it to nissan and they say its from the burned cds. They ordered me a new radio with no problem. Do you use burned cds.
I had the same exzct problem. Thats really funny. I took it to nissan and they say its from the burned cds. They ordered me a new radio with no problem. Do you use burned cds.
But if burned CD's are the catalyst for this problem would you know the technical behind the scenes action the degrades the sound performance? Is it the CD heads? Can they not play CD-R formats over time and this causes them to degrade over time? I'm just guessing since I don't have a clue?
Wow...no more "home-mix"? CD's
Did you stop playing CD-R's altogether?Thanks for the reply.
08-05-2002, 01:27 PM
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Mine only plays out of the right speakers when playing cd's in any other mode its fine. I am not going to stop playing burned cds, if it breaks ill bring it back again.
Originally posted by ThomBlaze2k2SE
Hmmm, interesting because in fact I DO use burned CD's although they are MUSIC CD-R's. It's not just the burned CD's that are playing when the sound problem occurs though.
But if burned CD's are the catalyst for this problem would you know the technical behind the scenes action the degrades the sound performance? Is it the CD heads? Can they not play CD-R formats over time and this causes them to degrade over time? I'm just guessing since I don't have a clue?
Wow...no more "home-mix"? CD's Did you stop playing CD-R's altogether?
Thanks for the reply.
Hmmm, interesting because in fact I DO use burned CD's although they are MUSIC CD-R's. It's not just the burned CD's that are playing when the sound problem occurs though.
But if burned CD's are the catalyst for this problem would you know the technical behind the scenes action the degrades the sound performance? Is it the CD heads? Can they not play CD-R formats over time and this causes them to degrade over time? I'm just guessing since I don't have a clue?
Wow...no more "home-mix"? CD's
Did you stop playing CD-R's altogether?Thanks for the reply.
08-05-2002, 01:32 PM
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Re: Re: Re: BOSE or BLOWS? Need advice for audio problem
Originally posted by ThomBlaze2k2SE
Hey bud, I had the EXACT same problem...left going out ONLY when CDs play, and I guarantee you that it was NOT the CD-Rs making it go out--it happened w\ ALL CDs. My CD player was in fact defective, I took it back to the dealer, and he went ahead and ordered me a brand new unit (I didnt have to "prove" anything to him). Granted it did take 2 months to get the damn thing off backorder, everyhting works great now (including my CD-Rs). Have them replace it and you'll be fine.
Hmmm, interesting because in fact I DO use burned CD's although they are MUSIC CD-R's. It's not just the burned CD's that are playing when the sound problem occurs though.
But if burned CD's are the catalyst for this problem would you know the technical behind the scenes action the degrades the sound performance? Is it the CD heads? Can they not play CD-R formats over time and this causes them to degrade over time? I'm just guessing since I don't have a clue?
Wow...no more "home-mix"? CD's Did you stop playing CD-R's altogether?
Thanks for the reply.
Hey bud, I had the EXACT same problem...left going out ONLY when CDs play, and I guarantee you that it was NOT the CD-Rs making it go out--it happened w\ ALL CDs. My CD player was in fact defective, I took it back to the dealer, and he went ahead and ordered me a brand new unit (I didnt have to "prove" anything to him). Granted it did take 2 months to get the damn thing off backorder, everyhting works great now (including my CD-Rs). Have them replace it and you'll be fine.
Hmmm, interesting because in fact I DO use burned CD's although they are MUSIC CD-R's. It's not just the burned CD's that are playing when the sound problem occurs though.
But if burned CD's are the catalyst for this problem would you know the technical behind the scenes action the degrades the sound performance? Is it the CD heads? Can they not play CD-R formats over time and this causes them to degrade over time? I'm just guessing since I don't have a clue?
Wow...no more "home-mix"? CD's
Did you stop playing CD-R's altogether?Thanks for the reply.
08-05-2002, 05:02 PM
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I had that problem and it got worse and worse. Came to a point were I was on the front left tweeter only. I took it in to the dealership and they had to order a new headunit. So three weeks later I'm still rolling around with no music
08-31-2002, 10:56 AM
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Same problem in an '03
I'm having the same problem in my month-old '03 SE. Two days ago, the left channel started cutting in and out, but only when playing CD's - the radio and cassette player both work fine (I have the Bose CD6 in-dash changer). The CD problem comes and goes when I go over bumps. Also, the problem is the same whether I use regular or burned CD's.
I'm going to have the dealer check it out first of the week.
I'm going to have the dealer check it out first of the week.
08-31-2002, 04:34 PM
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EXACTLY!
JC,
Man, you couldn't have nailed it more exactly. That exactly describes my issue to a T!
I go in on Tuesday for my scheduled maintenance and they are scheduled to look at it then. So we'll see. I hope it performs well for them otherwise I will have to direct them to take the car out for a drive and tell them to definitely find the nearest bump in the road for good measure.
Man, you couldn't have nailed it more exactly. That exactly describes my issue to a T!
I go in on Tuesday for my scheduled maintenance and they are scheduled to look at it then. So we'll see. I hope it performs well for them otherwise I will have to direct them to take the car out for a drive and tell them to definitely find the nearest bump in the road for good measure.
Originally posted by JCRocket
I'm having the same problem in my month-old '03 SE. Two days ago, the left channel started cutting in and out, but only when playing CD's - the radio and cassette player both work fine (I have the Bose CD6 in-dash changer). The CD problem comes and goes when I go over bumps. Also, the problem is the same whether I use regular or burned CD's.
I'm going to have the dealer check it out first of the week.
I'm having the same problem in my month-old '03 SE. Two days ago, the left channel started cutting in and out, but only when playing CD's - the radio and cassette player both work fine (I have the Bose CD6 in-dash changer). The CD problem comes and goes when I go over bumps. Also, the problem is the same whether I use regular or burned CD's.
I'm going to have the dealer check it out first of the week.
08-31-2002, 06:25 PM
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It's the less-than-remarkeable-quality of the Clarion disc mechanism. It seems they're having problems with it not only on our OEM headunits but on some of their higher end units as well.
The symptoms your experiencing seems to be in line with everyone else's.
The symptoms your experiencing seems to be in line with everyone else's.
08-31-2002, 06:37 PM
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I highly doubt the problems you are all experiencing are from
CDR/CDR-Ws. I would think that they would either play in your CD player or they wouldn't. I have a hard time believing they would cause individual speakers to do what you're describing. It sounds like a new head unit is in order here.
Tony
CDR/CDR-Ws. I would think that they would either play in your CD player or they wouldn't. I have a hard time believing they would cause individual speakers to do what you're describing. It sounds like a new head unit is in order here.
Tony
09-01-2002, 01:02 AM
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I'm sorry to say, but many of us have reported this issue, myself included. If you do a search, you should find some other threads where this topic has been/is being discussed.
I am surprised to learn that 2K3's are also experiencing the issue. Apparently Clarion is supplying us with refurbished units (the idea of which really disturbs me).
I do not believe the cause of the problem is burned CD's (although I think the owner's manual says not to use CD-R's). I do believe the problem is a manufacturing issue with a printed circuit board for the left channel. It would seem that some component that is part of the CD output circuitry disconnects and reconnects itself as the car goes over bumps and the CD player vibrates.
My own observations have shown this to be the likely case. When the left channel is working, it sounds just fine. Go over a bump and the channel becomes very low output and distorted. Almost as if the CD pre-amp for the left channel is not receiving enough power. Come to think of it, this could also be an issue with the power supply for the left channel pre-amp.
According to Nissan USA, Clarion currently has a 6+ week back order on the refurbished units. Also, Nissan will not back these units past 36k miles, so I really hope Clarion fixes these HU's.
I am surprised to learn that 2K3's are also experiencing the issue. Apparently Clarion is supplying us with refurbished units (the idea of which really disturbs me).
I do not believe the cause of the problem is burned CD's (although I think the owner's manual says not to use CD-R's). I do believe the problem is a manufacturing issue with a printed circuit board for the left channel. It would seem that some component that is part of the CD output circuitry disconnects and reconnects itself as the car goes over bumps and the CD player vibrates.
My own observations have shown this to be the likely case. When the left channel is working, it sounds just fine. Go over a bump and the channel becomes very low output and distorted. Almost as if the CD pre-amp for the left channel is not receiving enough power. Come to think of it, this could also be an issue with the power supply for the left channel pre-amp.
According to Nissan USA, Clarion currently has a 6+ week back order on the refurbished units. Also, Nissan will not back these units past 36k miles, so I really hope Clarion fixes these HU's.
09-01-2002, 12:31 PM
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*** The problem MAY not be from the CDR-Ws, but it's probably related. Have you tried burning your CDs with a different program, or checking the balance settings on your sofware? Worth a look.
Originally posted by Tony Fernandes
I highly doubt the problems you are all experiencing are from
CDR/CDR-Ws. I would think that they would either play in your CD player or they wouldn't. I have a hard time believing they would cause individual speakers to do what you're describing. It sounds like a new head unit is in order here.
Tony
I highly doubt the problems you are all experiencing are from
CDR/CDR-Ws. I would think that they would either play in your CD player or they wouldn't. I have a hard time believing they would cause individual speakers to do what you're describing. It sounds like a new head unit is in order here.
Tony
09-01-2002, 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by ABS
I'm sorry to say, but many of us have reported this issue, myself included. If you do a search, you should find some other threads where this topic has been/is being discussed.
I am surprised to learn that 2K3's are also experiencing the issue. Apparently Clarion is supplying us with refurbished units (the idea of which really disturbs me).
I do not believe the cause of the problem is burned CD's (although I think the owner's manual says not to use CD-R's). I do believe the problem is a manufacturing issue with a printed circuit board for the left channel. It would seem that some component that is part of the CD output circuitry disconnects and reconnects itself as the car goes over bumps and the CD player vibrates.
My own observations have shown this to be the likely case. When the left channel is working, it sounds just fine. Go over a bump and the channel becomes very low output and distorted. Almost as if the CD pre-amp for the left channel is not receiving enough power. Come to think of it, this could also be an issue with the power supply for the left channel pre-amp.
According to Nissan USA, Clarion currently has a 6+ week back order on the refurbished units. Also, Nissan will not back these units past 36k miles, so I really hope Clarion fixes these HU's.
I'm sorry to say, but many of us have reported this issue, myself included. If you do a search, you should find some other threads where this topic has been/is being discussed.
I am surprised to learn that 2K3's are also experiencing the issue. Apparently Clarion is supplying us with refurbished units (the idea of which really disturbs me).
I do not believe the cause of the problem is burned CD's (although I think the owner's manual says not to use CD-R's). I do believe the problem is a manufacturing issue with a printed circuit board for the left channel. It would seem that some component that is part of the CD output circuitry disconnects and reconnects itself as the car goes over bumps and the CD player vibrates.
My own observations have shown this to be the likely case. When the left channel is working, it sounds just fine. Go over a bump and the channel becomes very low output and distorted. Almost as if the CD pre-amp for the left channel is not receiving enough power. Come to think of it, this could also be an issue with the power supply for the left channel pre-amp.
According to Nissan USA, Clarion currently has a 6+ week back order on the refurbished units. Also, Nissan will not back these units past 36k miles, so I really hope Clarion fixes these HU's.
09-01-2002, 03:48 PM
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I'm not sure, but if the 2k2 Altima is any indication, your headunit is probably an OEM'd by Matsu****a (Panasonic).
Originally posted by VQPowerSE
Do you know if Clarion supplies the 6-disc CD Changers to all Nissan models, or just the 02-03 max's? I have a 6-disc CD changer in my 01 Altima and have had no problems playing CD-R's, even over bumps.
Do you know if Clarion supplies the 6-disc CD Changers to all Nissan models, or just the 02-03 max's? I have a 6-disc CD changer in my 01 Altima and have had no problems playing CD-R's, even over bumps.
09-11-2002, 06:23 PM
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My BOSE BLOWS too
I've been having the same problem with my BOSE 6CD unit. There is some sort of failure in the left channel. I seriously doubt it has anything to do with music CD-R's. We are probably not all using the same burn software so why hasn't the right channel developed the same problem? The left side circuitry must have some sort of mfg defect. Besides I discovered this problem with a "bought" CD.
Took it in to the dealer. They listened for a few minutes and are ordering me a new one (remanufactured unit I guess).
Took it in to the dealer. They listened for a few minutes and are ordering me a new one (remanufactured unit I guess).
09-11-2002, 06:26 PM
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Re: My BOSE BLOWS too
Originally posted by wolfmanjack210
I've been having the same problem with my BOSE 6CD unit. There is some sort of failure in the left channel. I seriously doubt it has anything to do with music CD-R's. We are probably not all using the same burn software so why hasn't the right channel developed the same problem? The left side circuitry must have some sort of mfg defect. Besides I discovered this problem with a "bought" CD.
Took it in to the dealer. They listened for a few minutes and are ordering me a new one (remanufactured unit I guess).
I've been having the same problem with my BOSE 6CD unit. There is some sort of failure in the left channel. I seriously doubt it has anything to do with music CD-R's. We are probably not all using the same burn software so why hasn't the right channel developed the same problem? The left side circuitry must have some sort of mfg defect. Besides I discovered this problem with a "bought" CD.
Took it in to the dealer. They listened for a few minutes and are ordering me a new one (remanufactured unit I guess).
Ditto that here. Was in for scheduled maintenance. Service is ordering me a new(?) one also. I was told that they had 3 other 2K2 Maximas before me with the same problem.
ThomBlaze!
09-11-2002, 06:42 PM
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Nissan Quality stinks
Among MANY other problems in my '02 SE, I have had the same problem with my Bose head unit. Don't hold your breath when you get a new HU. They replaced the original one with ANOTHER defective unit.
I'm beginning to hate Nissans
I'm beginning to hate Nissans
09-30-2003, 07:34 PM
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CD left channel problem
Today is first time I noticed it but I also have the same problem as noted here in the group. Tried several store-bought CDs and all the same problem. If it's a loose component then the capacitive coupling left after the component lifts or just cross-talk from the other channel probably explains the poor quality left channel. No problems with radio and I haven't tried tapes since I found the problem.
We'll see what my Nissan dealer has to say when I bring it in tomorrow.
I'm not looking forward to the wait for the replacement unit though.
What about alternative audio systems for the max? Any recommendations?
- radarmax
We'll see what my Nissan dealer has to say when I bring it in tomorrow.
I'm not looking forward to the wait for the replacement unit though.
What about alternative audio systems for the max? Any recommendations?
- radarmax
09-30-2003, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by xfirepwr1
The quality of your CD must be very $hitty, or the CD is burned. Try swithcing the CD and see if you r still experiencing the problem
ITS THE BOSEHEADUNIT. POS.
09-30-2003, 10:55 PM
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It's been some time since my last post, but here's the latest update. I'm now on my fourth HU. The first HU that came with the car had the left channel cutout problem. The replacement was good for about 15K and then suffered the same fate as the first. The third unit would randomly skip CD's which were otherwise perfect but no left channel problem and the CD sound quality was noticeably improved over the first two units. Just prior to the end of my warranty, at about 35K, I had the HU replaced again. This one also sounds much better than the first two, but still is skipping on CD's. These HU's are absolute crap. I am now looking to replace the Clarion POS HU all together with aftermarket.
09-30-2003, 11:05 PM
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it is definitely the same problem with the head unit that everyone is having. just FYI, if you give the HU a little tap with your fist it should temporarily correct the problem (just to get you through the down time)
i had the same problem. i am on my 3rd HU. first one had the same problem you are having. the 2nd one just randomly stopped reading my CDs after a couple days of having it (burned and professional CDs) and my new one has been acting strange but it hasnt showed me any consistant problems.
the dealer most definitely should replace it under warranty.
i had the same problem. i am on my 3rd HU. first one had the same problem you are having. the 2nd one just randomly stopped reading my CDs after a couple days of having it (burned and professional CDs) and my new one has been acting strange but it hasnt showed me any consistant problems.
the dealer most definitely should replace it under warranty.
10-01-2003, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ThomBlaze2k2SE
Hey,
I'm have a strange problem with my audio and since I'm not an auto audiophile I need suggestions.
When I'm playing the CD6 my entire left side speakers go in and out. When that happens I balance the speakers all the way to left to get clear on the sound and the speakers sound like they're blown or something. Muffled, crackling, and very low volume.
Here's the kicker...whenever I cut straight to the radio all speakers play absolutely fine and whats more is that when I hit bumps in the road with the CD player going the left speakers get thrown out/down or if they were already down they bumps throw the speakers back into normal balance and function.
This problem is only in relation to the CD6 player. I am already envisioning a nightmare at the Nissan Service Dept telling they can't duplicate problem, blah blah blah.
I've had the Max since Memorial Day. Any help or suggestions? Thanks.
I'm have a strange problem with my audio and since I'm not an auto audiophile I need suggestions.
When I'm playing the CD6 my entire left side speakers go in and out. When that happens I balance the speakers all the way to left to get clear on the sound and the speakers sound like they're blown or something. Muffled, crackling, and very low volume.
Here's the kicker...whenever I cut straight to the radio all speakers play absolutely fine and whats more is that when I hit bumps in the road with the CD player going the left speakers get thrown out/down or if they were already down they bumps throw the speakers back into normal balance and function.
This problem is only in relation to the CD6 player. I am already envisioning a nightmare at the Nissan Service Dept telling they can't duplicate problem, blah blah blah.
I've had the Max since Memorial Day. Any help or suggestions? Thanks.
http://maxima.theowensfamily.com/tsb/
Go through all the TSB's. I have 4 issues right now.
10-01-2003, 07:14 AM
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Check out this link in the audio forum as well.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=189182
It explains the whole issue.
I'm on my second HU. No problems so far.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=189182
It explains the whole issue.
I'm on my second HU. No problems so far.
10-01-2003, 08:14 AM
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just to clear this issue up, it has absolutely nothing to do with burned CD's. there is a 90 degree wire in the HU that gets knocked around and out of place, causes the left front speaker to crackle and sometimes cut out completely. have the problem documented, and get a new HU, but the manufacture date has to be after Dec. 2002
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