How to spot a Supra TT from N/A
#1
How to spot a Supra TT from N/A
Quick question.
There's this new car around my work,a last generation Toyota Supra, and I'm tempted to play with him sometime in my 2k2 6 spd.
Any easy was to visually tell the twin turbo Supras from the normally aspirated ones. Were they badged as "Turbo" or something?
There's this new car around my work,a last generation Toyota Supra, and I'm tempted to play with him sometime in my 2k2 6 spd.
Any easy was to visually tell the twin turbo Supras from the normally aspirated ones. Were they badged as "Turbo" or something?
#2
it says supra in a funky font. (i think)
the exhaust?
the rims
asides from that it's pretty hard to tell the difference..
with mr2's just look at the badge it says "turbo" if not check if the side moldings are color matched.
the exhaust?
the rims
asides from that it's pretty hard to tell the difference..
with mr2's just look at the badge it says "turbo" if not check if the side moldings are color matched.
#3
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Q. How to spot a Supra TT from N/A
A. Run him a find out!
A. Ask the guy?
A. Listen for bov.
A. Run him a find out!
A. Ask the guy?
A. Listen for bov.
#4
Originally posted by Maxting
Q. How to spot a Supra TT from N/A
A. Run him a find out!
A. Ask the guy?
A. Listen for bov.
Q. How to spot a Supra TT from N/A
A. Run him a find out!
A. Ask the guy?
A. Listen for bov.
#6
Originally posted by 2K2_6spd
The Turbo Supras, say "Turbo" on the rear brake calipers.
The Turbo Supras, say "Turbo" on the rear brake calipers.
#7
Sounds like a good way to spot it. Any clues inside? Did the TT come with a 6 spd and the NA with a 5 or anything like that. I peeked throught the window the other day and I'm pretty sure its a 6-spd.
The interior is quite up-to-date considering its like a 4 to 5 year old car.
The interior is quite up-to-date considering its like a 4 to 5 year old car.
Originally posted by 2K2_6spd
The Turbo Supras, say "Turbo" on the rear brake calipers.
The Turbo Supras, say "Turbo" on the rear brake calipers.
#8
Originally posted by Eric
Sounds like a good way to spot it. Any clues inside? Did the TT come with a 6 spd and the NA with a 5 or anything like that. I peeked throught the window the other day and I'm pretty sure its a 6-spd.
The interior is quite up-to-date considering its like a 4 to 5 year old car.
Sounds like a good way to spot it. Any clues inside? Did the TT come with a 6 spd and the NA with a 5 or anything like that. I peeked throught the window the other day and I'm pretty sure its a 6-spd.
The interior is quite up-to-date considering its like a 4 to 5 year old car.
#9
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Originally posted by mingo
the stock bypass valve isn't all that loud, a drone from an aftermarket exhaust could drown out the sound comin' from the bypass valve aka recirculation valve.
the stock bypass valve isn't all that loud, a drone from an aftermarket exhaust could drown out the sound comin' from the bypass valve aka recirculation valve.
#10
this is going to be hard to spot when they blow past ya...ha. i'd be careful, i've seen plenty of tt supra's w/ no badging.
Originally posted by 2K2_6spd
The Turbo Supras, say "Turbo" on the rear brake calipers.
The Turbo Supras, say "Turbo" on the rear brake calipers.
#13
Originally posted by Eric
Sounds like a good way to spot it. Any clues inside? Did the TT come with a 6 spd and the NA with a 5 or anything like that. I peeked throught the window the other day and I'm pretty sure its a 6-spd.
The interior is quite up-to-date considering its like a 4 to 5 year old car.
Sounds like a good way to spot it. Any clues inside? Did the TT come with a 6 spd and the NA with a 5 or anything like that. I peeked throught the window the other day and I'm pretty sure its a 6-spd.
The interior is quite up-to-date considering its like a 4 to 5 year old car.
NA have stock 16" wheels while TT have 17"
If it says 15th anniversary edition it is TT
#14
That means its a TT because its definitely a 6-spd. Oh well, if I get a chance to run we'll see how well I can keep up.
Originally posted by Max_Gator
Yes. NA are 5 spd. TT are 6 spd.
NA have stock 16" wheels while TT have 17"
If it says 15th anniversary edition it is TT
Yes. NA are 5 spd. TT are 6 spd.
NA have stock 16" wheels while TT have 17"
If it says 15th anniversary edition it is TT
#16
Originally posted by Greg's2kGLE
But TT's do come in automagic right?
But TT's do come in automagic right?
#17
Unless they've been debadged, on the right rear above the tailight it will say "Supra Turbo".
Supra Turbo
Now, whether it's a true TT or if they've upgraded to a bigger single turbo, that's a different question .
Supra Turbo
Now, whether it's a true TT or if they've upgraded to a bigger single turbo, that's a different question .
#18
Originally posted by Tanman
Unless they've been debadged, on the right rear above the tailight it will say "Supra Turbo".
Supra Turbo
Now, whether it's a true TT or if they've upgraded to a bigger single turbo, that's a different question .
Unless they've been debadged, on the right rear above the tailight it will say "Supra Turbo".
Supra Turbo
Now, whether it's a true TT or if they've upgraded to a bigger single turbo, that's a different question .
#19
Originally posted by Max_Gator
Not all of them have that Turbo emblem if I recall correctly. Only some years had it.
Not all of them have that Turbo emblem if I recall correctly. Only some years had it.
#20
Re: How to spot a Supra TT from N/A
Originally posted by Eric
Quick question.
There's this new car around my work,a last generation Toyota Supra, and I'm tempted to play with him sometime in my 2k2 6 spd.
Any easy was to visually tell the twin turbo Supras from the normally aspirated ones. Were they badged as "Turbo" or something?
Quick question.
There's this new car around my work,a last generation Toyota Supra, and I'm tempted to play with him sometime in my 2k2 6 spd.
Any easy was to visually tell the twin turbo Supras from the normally aspirated ones. Were they badged as "Turbo" or something?
but most likely, you'll find out for sure if you'd race him..if he's really TT, then he'll smoke you big time!
#21
Originally posted by Tanman
Could be. Want to prove it with a link?
Could be. Want to prove it with a link?
Oh, geez.
Here's my link:
http://www.supraforums.com/showthrea...t=turbo+emblem
Where's yours?
#23
What's a smic?
Originally posted by MaximaZero
you can also check for the smic. i think it is on the passenger side.
you can also check for the smic. i think it is on the passenger side.
#24
Originally posted by Max_Gator
Oh, geez.
Here's my link:
http://www.supraforums.com/showthrea...t=turbo+emblem
Where's yours?
Oh, geez.
Here's my link:
http://www.supraforums.com/showthrea...t=turbo+emblem
Where's yours?
What's with the attitude though? I just wanted some proof, since you didn't seem allthat sure yourself .
#27
Originally posted by see5
Are you saying you would mess with one, not the other?
They are beyond you either way!
Are you saying you would mess with one, not the other?
They are beyond you either way!
#28
Alright guys, check this out.
My bro has a latest model supra nonturbo manual and I have a 2K MAX manual. I've raced him before and I've killed him by like 1.5 - 2 car lengths. This was when I was completely stock, before I charged it. He had some mods like cam gears and a catback exhaust and I still would beat him (imagine now with SC). Even he doesn't know how the MAX can beat him with such easiness. I couldn't believe it either! I was in shock when I did! I've raced him several times and it's always the same thing. I believe they are geared in such a way that the bottom end is really slow but it DOES pickup on top end. So, if u have a 2000+ MAX, u can beat a NA supra easy just as long as u r a good decent driver. But NEways, U can tell the difference of a NA with a TT supra by:
TT supras have much bigger brakes (some r painted black)
TT have a 6 speed, Na's only have 5 speed
TT have bigger rims (17's) ,that's why they have bigger brakes.
TT have SMIC, which u can see in the front sides of the front bumper
TT also have a traction control button under their stereo
A TT will kill a MAX even with a SC but a MAX will definitely eat NA supra
My bro has a latest model supra nonturbo manual and I have a 2K MAX manual. I've raced him before and I've killed him by like 1.5 - 2 car lengths. This was when I was completely stock, before I charged it. He had some mods like cam gears and a catback exhaust and I still would beat him (imagine now with SC). Even he doesn't know how the MAX can beat him with such easiness. I couldn't believe it either! I was in shock when I did! I've raced him several times and it's always the same thing. I believe they are geared in such a way that the bottom end is really slow but it DOES pickup on top end. So, if u have a 2000+ MAX, u can beat a NA supra easy just as long as u r a good decent driver. But NEways, U can tell the difference of a NA with a TT supra by:
TT supras have much bigger brakes (some r painted black)
TT have a 6 speed, Na's only have 5 speed
TT have bigger rims (17's) ,that's why they have bigger brakes.
TT have SMIC, which u can see in the front sides of the front bumper
TT also have a traction control button under their stereo
A TT will kill a MAX even with a SC but a MAX will definitely eat NA supra
#29
yep for the ones thats seen my web page i raced a TT one day we started at 60 i slammed the gas only pulled 1/2 a car length at 80 he had me by 1 car length at 95 2 carlengths at 130 there was about 3 car lenghts between us and the pic is on the second page of my homepage it looks alot further than 3 lengths but it was 3.
#30
Originally posted by maxxboost00
A TT will kill a MAX even with a SC but a MAX will definitely eat NA supra
A TT will kill a MAX even with a SC but a MAX will definitely eat NA supra
#31
Simpliest way to tell if a Supra is NA or TT (as long as it's standing still), outside of the larger rims (which are usually replaced):
look in the passenger side duct under the headlamp. If you see an intercooler... it's a TT.
and whoever said that thing about the rear calipers saying "turbo" is on crack.
look in the passenger side duct under the headlamp. If you see an intercooler... it's a TT.
and whoever said that thing about the rear calipers saying "turbo" is on crack.
#32
I think I could easily take a normally aspirated Supra in my 2k2 6 spd. They were only 225 hp.
Turbo, on the other hand, would be a different story, especially with half these guys running mods that pump them up to 400-500 hp.
You gotta hand it to Toyota turbo motors - they really take mods well.
Turbo, on the other hand, would be a different story, especially with half these guys running mods that pump them up to 400-500 hp.
You gotta hand it to Toyota turbo motors - they really take mods well.
Originally posted by see5
Are you saying you would mess with one, not the other?
They are beyond you either way!
Are you saying you would mess with one, not the other?
They are beyond you either way!
#33
Originally posted by Eric
I think I could easily take a normally aspirated Supra in my 2k2 6 spd. They were only 225 hp.
Turbo, on the other hand, would be a different story, especially with half these guys running mods that pump them up to 400-500 hp.
You gotta hand it to Toyota turbo motors - they really take mods well.
I think I could easily take a normally aspirated Supra in my 2k2 6 spd. They were only 225 hp.
Turbo, on the other hand, would be a different story, especially with half these guys running mods that pump them up to 400-500 hp.
You gotta hand it to Toyota turbo motors - they really take mods well.
I traded drives with a guy with my 300zxtt in his 550hp> single turbo Supra and while it did not have the low end torque it was way faster than my modded C5.
#34
Originally posted by Tanman
Well, that sort of proves it, I guess. They don't seem entirely sure themselves.
What's with the attitude though? I just wanted some proof, since you didn't seem allthat sure yourself .
Well, that sort of proves it, I guess. They don't seem entirely sure themselves.
What's with the attitude though? I just wanted some proof, since you didn't seem allthat sure yourself .
It is kinda obnoxious to ask someone to "prove it with a link."
You would have called me an *** if I'd asked you to "prove it with a link" after you posted that all turbos have an emblem.
Fact of the matter is I was trying to nicely say you were wrong - that's why I put it that way.
#35
Yeah, but most TT supras nowadays have upgrades. Turbo cars have so much more potential to gain HP compared to "all motor" and SC'd cars. All they need is a boost controller and BANG there's an extra 60-100 HP (at least for TT)! It's also cheaper to modify a Turbo car compared to NA or even SC'd cars. But NE-ways, I'm really happy with my SC MAX cuz I can really kill my bro's NA supra! He doesn't like to race me anymore cuz HE knows better! I just don't know what I'm gonna do when he gets his turbo kit cuz he's gonna have 400 at the wheels! He's gonna be the one laughing now. That sucks!! I need more BOOST!
#36
Originally posted by Max_Gator
It is kinda obnoxious to ask someone to "prove it with a link."
You would have called me an *** if I'd asked you to "prove it with a link" after you posted that all turbos have an emblem.
Fact of the matter is I was trying to nicely say you were wrong - that's why I put it that way.
It is kinda obnoxious to ask someone to "prove it with a link."
You would have called me an *** if I'd asked you to "prove it with a link" after you posted that all turbos have an emblem.
Fact of the matter is I was trying to nicely say you were wrong - that's why I put it that way.
If you had asked me to prove it with a link, I would have said I can't, it's just something I noticed. Even in the forum link you provided, no one was sure about it, so actually you proved nothing.
#37
OMG~! So many things that arn't true!~!!! Supra with 4piston calipers??? supra w/ a "turo" written on the brakes??? can't tell a TT from a NA??? OMG
Im not trying to be get anyone mad....buh ....damnit...it ****ed me off to know there are pple out there who hardly know anything about it.... (im a hardcore supra fan...its my dream car,wanted it ever since 6th grade...)
the N/A supra is basically the "Cressida" the rwd sedan of the 80's" same engine... the late model supra's have the VVT-i which is basically the IS300
the supra's w/ badges that say turbo on them, its the latermodels i think it was 97 and 98 97 being the limited edition model
all TT comes w/ a 6spd or an auto
the autos are only faster on the TT cars b/c the gear ratios are better for the boosted cars, more time fore more boost, in the 6spd, the gears are closer causing the person to shift and loose max boost. the stock TT supra auto wasn't much of a diff. to a stick...only .1 sec. on quarter
the supra duz come big 17's stock, and that big *** wing which got like the worst rating for a stock spoiler comes stock on the TT... it if they did "fix up" their cars...they would have a big *** IC in the front.
MOST PPLE dont have 10k to spend on a crazy turbo setup...theres alot more to that **** than just the big *** turbo alone...
make a streetable 9sec car??? thats SO freaking expensive~! i've worked on one b4...and turbocharged cars.if ur going to run high boost for an extended period of time you have to get internal engine work such as sleeves and forged pistons...(wrx was brought in yesterday w/ a blown motor...cause= too much boost)
and the people who run the 800 hp ****....thats only if you use like 100 octane~! u might be able to get into the 1000 if you put dry ice on the IC and run 110octane race fuel..... most of the time u'll be running around 500 w/ 87 octane...
and to me and many others out there....
www.mkiv.com
is a great site....
DONT THINK IM A SMARTASS~ I might be 17,but man, i thought u pple would be a tad smarter than me..... jeez
IF YOU GUYS THINK IM AN IDIOT, I WELCOME U TO PROVE ME WRONG~!!
Im not trying to be get anyone mad....buh ....damnit...it ****ed me off to know there are pple out there who hardly know anything about it.... (im a hardcore supra fan...its my dream car,wanted it ever since 6th grade...)
the N/A supra is basically the "Cressida" the rwd sedan of the 80's" same engine... the late model supra's have the VVT-i which is basically the IS300
the supra's w/ badges that say turbo on them, its the latermodels i think it was 97 and 98 97 being the limited edition model
all TT comes w/ a 6spd or an auto
the autos are only faster on the TT cars b/c the gear ratios are better for the boosted cars, more time fore more boost, in the 6spd, the gears are closer causing the person to shift and loose max boost. the stock TT supra auto wasn't much of a diff. to a stick...only .1 sec. on quarter
the supra duz come big 17's stock, and that big *** wing which got like the worst rating for a stock spoiler comes stock on the TT... it if they did "fix up" their cars...they would have a big *** IC in the front.
MOST PPLE dont have 10k to spend on a crazy turbo setup...theres alot more to that **** than just the big *** turbo alone...
make a streetable 9sec car??? thats SO freaking expensive~! i've worked on one b4...and turbocharged cars.if ur going to run high boost for an extended period of time you have to get internal engine work such as sleeves and forged pistons...(wrx was brought in yesterday w/ a blown motor...cause= too much boost)
and the people who run the 800 hp ****....thats only if you use like 100 octane~! u might be able to get into the 1000 if you put dry ice on the IC and run 110octane race fuel..... most of the time u'll be running around 500 w/ 87 octane...
and to me and many others out there....
www.mkiv.com
is a great site....
DONT THINK IM A SMARTASS~ I might be 17,but man, i thought u pple would be a tad smarter than me..... jeez
IF YOU GUYS THINK IM AN IDIOT, I WELCOME U TO PROVE ME WRONG~!!
#38
sorry guys... i sounded like an ***...it just got to me to read such a thing....i've looked into the supra for a long time now, and just got to me when i read something like this....and to read what kinda stuff some pple said...sorry guys....its like asking how do you tell the diff from a 2k2 GLE and a 2000 GXE....and gettin replys like "a 2k2 will come with a stillen rear valance"
#39
Originally posted by Tanman
I posted that Supra TTs have the emblem, not meaning it as an absolute fact. You corrected me, that's cool, but I'd like a source for your information so I don't know you didn't just assume it.
If you had asked me to prove it with a link, I would have said I can't, it's just something I noticed. Even in the forum link you provided, no one was sure about it, so actually you proved nothing.
I posted that Supra TTs have the emblem, not meaning it as an absolute fact. You corrected me, that's cool, but I'd like a source for your information so I don't know you didn't just assume it.
If you had asked me to prove it with a link, I would have said I can't, it's just something I noticed. Even in the forum link you provided, no one was sure about it, so actually you proved nothing.
And I see your logic now, it is ok for you to "assume" your facts but if anyone disagrees with you (even in the diplomatic way I did it) they have to "prove" it. After all, if I didn't go find the proof you demanded then I would be wrong, wouldn't I?
Short of it is that if you are going to go around asking people to prove something with a link - when you really have no clue as to what you are talking about -then you need to be mature enough to take a little "oh geez."
As for the "proof," I found that in about 30 seconds and thought it was sufficient - guess it didn't quite meet your standard of proof . . . which is what: personal observation of a few Supras?
I guess you need DEFINITIVE proof (in writing from Toyota?) to overcome the wealth of evidence you have to support your statement that they all have an emblem.
But, not to digress, I think the link sufficiently proves it. That is, unless you contend that the Supra owners who said their Supra did not come with an emblem are lying to help me out. Believe it or not, that post is not even the basis for my statement: I based my statement on the mkiv.com e-mail list discussions that I got for about a year before deciding not to buy one.
One final thing: Perhaps you would care to explain why you would mischaracterize the post by saying "no one was sure about it?" The posters pretty clearly establish that only the 97-98 came with the large Turbo decal and that the small turbo emblem in the rectangular square was a Souteast Toyota dealers option. There were at least 3-4 posters who said their TT had no emblem.
#40
Let your anger be like a monkey in a pinata; hiding in the candy, hoping the children don't break through with the stick.
Originally posted by AzNx2k2xSEXima
OMG~! So many things that arn't true!~!!! Supra with 4piston calipers??? supra w/ a "turo" written on the brakes??? can't tell a TT from a NA??? OMG
Im not trying to be get anyone mad....buh ....damnit...it ****ed me off to know there are pple out there who hardly know anything about it.... (im a hardcore supra fan...its my dream car,wanted it ever since 6th grade...)
the N/A supra is basically the "Cressida" the rwd sedan of the 80's" same engine... the late model supra's have the VVT-i which is basically the IS300
the supra's w/ badges that say turbo on them, its the latermodels i think it was 97 and 98 97 being the limited edition model
all TT comes w/ a 6spd or an auto
the autos are only faster on the TT cars b/c the gear ratios are better for the boosted cars, more time fore more boost, in the 6spd, the gears are closer causing the person to shift and loose max boost. the stock TT supra auto wasn't much of a diff. to a stick...only .1 sec. on quarter
the supra duz come big 17's stock, and that big *** wing which got like the worst rating for a stock spoiler comes stock on the TT... it if they did "fix up" their cars...they would have a big *** IC in the front.
MOST PPLE dont have 10k to spend on a crazy turbo setup...theres alot more to that **** than just the big *** turbo alone...
make a streetable 9sec car??? thats SO freaking expensive~! i've worked on one b4...and turbocharged cars.if ur going to run high boost for an extended period of time you have to get internal engine work such as sleeves and forged pistons...(wrx was brought in yesterday w/ a blown motor...cause= too much boost)
and the people who run the 800 hp ****....thats only if you use like 100 octane~! u might be able to get into the 1000 if you put dry ice on the IC and run 110octane race fuel..... most of the time u'll be running around 500 w/ 87 octane...
and to me and many others out there....
www.mkiv.com
is a great site....
DONT THINK IM A SMARTASS~ I might be 17,but man, i thought u pple would be a tad smarter than me..... jeez
IF YOU GUYS THINK IM AN IDIOT, I WELCOME U TO PROVE ME WRONG~!!
OMG~! So many things that arn't true!~!!! Supra with 4piston calipers??? supra w/ a "turo" written on the brakes??? can't tell a TT from a NA??? OMG
Im not trying to be get anyone mad....buh ....damnit...it ****ed me off to know there are pple out there who hardly know anything about it.... (im a hardcore supra fan...its my dream car,wanted it ever since 6th grade...)
the N/A supra is basically the "Cressida" the rwd sedan of the 80's" same engine... the late model supra's have the VVT-i which is basically the IS300
the supra's w/ badges that say turbo on them, its the latermodels i think it was 97 and 98 97 being the limited edition model
all TT comes w/ a 6spd or an auto
the autos are only faster on the TT cars b/c the gear ratios are better for the boosted cars, more time fore more boost, in the 6spd, the gears are closer causing the person to shift and loose max boost. the stock TT supra auto wasn't much of a diff. to a stick...only .1 sec. on quarter
the supra duz come big 17's stock, and that big *** wing which got like the worst rating for a stock spoiler comes stock on the TT... it if they did "fix up" their cars...they would have a big *** IC in the front.
MOST PPLE dont have 10k to spend on a crazy turbo setup...theres alot more to that **** than just the big *** turbo alone...
make a streetable 9sec car??? thats SO freaking expensive~! i've worked on one b4...and turbocharged cars.if ur going to run high boost for an extended period of time you have to get internal engine work such as sleeves and forged pistons...(wrx was brought in yesterday w/ a blown motor...cause= too much boost)
and the people who run the 800 hp ****....thats only if you use like 100 octane~! u might be able to get into the 1000 if you put dry ice on the IC and run 110octane race fuel..... most of the time u'll be running around 500 w/ 87 octane...
and to me and many others out there....
www.mkiv.com
is a great site....
DONT THINK IM A SMARTASS~ I might be 17,but man, i thought u pple would be a tad smarter than me..... jeez
IF YOU GUYS THINK IM AN IDIOT, I WELCOME U TO PROVE ME WRONG~!!