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Old 08-10-2002 | 04:41 AM
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My new wheels RUB!!! GRRRRRRRR!!!!!!

Well, I was all happy because I just got me new wheels, everything was great until I started taking some hard turns and went over speed bumps. The rear definately rubs! I had two not so heavy people in the back and going over a bump in the road makes them rub. It's hitting the inside splash gaurds. It's not rubbing a lot, but when I hit a bump, the sound reverberates through the car VERY loudly.

Now I have to raise the rear.

This is my setup as far as my suspension goes:

JIC FLT-A2 Coilovers
Addco rear sway
18x8.5 SSR GP-Theta 3pc w/ +37 offset
245/40/18 Nitto NT-555

Now, my question is, why doesn't Kloogy, Gunmax, or Y2KevSE's 8.5's rub? I have roughly the same offset as them. 35, ??, 38 respectively.
Old 08-10-2002 | 04:43 AM
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But one thing that I am happy about......

It handles AWESOME!!! Now I fully realize how bad those Blowtenzas are! Those tires are garbage!!
Old 08-10-2002 | 05:00 AM
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Someone's an insomniac just like me.

Do you have a pic of the wheel? I can't find it anywhere online.
Old 08-10-2002 | 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by asu174
Someone's an insomniac just like me.

Do you have a pic of the wheel? I can't find it anywhere online.
My digi cam is down. I'll get them up soon. PS- I'll send your stuff out tomorrow.
Old 08-10-2002 | 05:27 AM
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My digi cam is down. I'll get them up soon. PS- I'll send your stuff out tomorrow.
Thanks again bro......
Old 08-10-2002 | 09:14 AM
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Yes, I rub a bit when I turn the wheel fully to the left.

Reason why: I'm too low and my SC CAI causes the right plastic fender to bulge out a little.

Raise your car up about 2 notches, and you should be fine.
Old 08-10-2002 | 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Yes, I rub a bit when I turn the wheel fully to the left.

Reason why: I'm too low and my SC CAI causes the right plastic fender to bulge out a little.

Raise your car up about 2 notches, and you should be fine.
Kev- I didn't know you had the GC's. I thought I was the only one. Question- Why is it banging REALLY loud over bumps when I drop my car down? I know that I'm not bottoming out. It's coming from the wheel well.

Here's my setup:
GC's
KYB AGX's
Stillen camber kit

I took it to a suspension shop and they said that everything looked fine. The weird thing is that the problem started ONLY after I got the KYBs on.......
Old 08-10-2002 | 09:38 AM
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have you considered modifying the splash guard so that it fits better.

how low is your front, my rears are tucked and they are only 7.5 wide so luckily i've never had any rubbing, but my tires are 245/40/18. i just wish my front was a little lower so it looked more even but unless i get coilovers that woin't happen with any springs out for a maxima. they are something i'd consider way after i was done with a lot of other things for my car, i really want AWESOME speakers now.
Old 08-10-2002 | 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by asu174


Kev- I didn't know you had the GC's. I thought I was the only one. Question- Why is it banging REALLY loud over bumps when I drop my car down? I know that I'm not bottoming out. It's coming from the wheel well.

Here's my setup:
GC's
KYB AGX's
Stillen camber kit

I took it to a suspension shop and they said that everything looked fine. The weird thing is that the problem started ONLY after I got the KYBs on.......
Is the front or the rear banging? What are your settings on the AGXs?
Old 08-10-2002 | 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


Is the front or the rear banging? What are your settings on the AGXs?
Front is banging. Loud. Especially while turning and going over bumps. Front setting is on 2 although it bangs on 4 also. I'm starting to think that KYBs are crap.
Old 08-10-2002 | 03:50 PM
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I found out where it's rubbing.

I need to shave the inside of the fender 1mm, literally, 1mm!! When the suspension compresses, the sidewall of the tire is JUST grazing the fender. Out comes the dremel.....
Old 08-11-2002 | 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by cobymoby
I found out where it's rubbing.

I need to shave the inside of the fender 1mm, literally, 1mm!! When the suspension compresses, the sidewall of the tire is JUST grazing the fender. Out comes the dremel.....
Dremel


Are you still loving the JICs? I'm so set on them, but I'm still trying to save up. BTW, did you ever measure your drop or see how low they can be adjusted?
Old 08-11-2002 | 10:14 PM
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Hrrm.. makes me scared of my new wheels. Mine are 18' Racing Hart C3's with 42mm offset.. I was already freaking out about wether or not they would fit, then I read this thread
Old 08-11-2002 | 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by Modernceo
Hrrm.. makes me scared of my new wheels. Mine are 18' Racing Hart C3's with 42mm offset.. I was already freaking out about wether or not they would fit, then I read this thread

Those will fit for sure. If I had 1-1.5mm of more clearance on the fender it would not rub at all. You, with a 7.5" rim, and a 42mm offset, you have 12.7mm+5mm=17.5mm of clearance.

Did you already buy your C3's? IF not let me know.
Old 08-11-2002 | 11:11 PM
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I have the 35 offset with 245/35's... I'm sure your Coilovers make your car lower. I have only done real hard cornering with 2 people in the car. I have done a bit of driving with 4 people in the car, a lot of it even in Baja Calif... no rubbing yet.
Old 08-12-2002 | 12:21 AM
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Originally posted by cobymoby

Did you already buy your C3's? IF not let me know.
Yes I already bought the C3's. I presume your going to offer to help me get a set, however I run a tuning shop in Houston Texas and have pretty good connections for just about any part I want.

Thanks for your offer though, and for your reply to my post.

Ps- how do you like your rear sway bar ? Are the brackets already there for connecting the rsb, or whats involved in getting it installed? (have had my max for less than two weeks, havent had a chance to fully inspect underside yet)
Old 08-12-2002 | 03:06 AM
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Originally posted by Modernceo


Ps- how do you like your rear sway bar ? Are the brackets already there for connecting the rsb, or whats involved in getting it installed? (have had my max for less than two weeks, havent had a chance to fully inspect underside yet)
The sway is great. I wished I had gotten one sooner. The brackets just hug the rear axle and trailing arms. It's a simple install. On the passenger side bracket that hugs the axle, you might want to shave the corner off with a hacksaw or bench grider. When you install it, you'll see where it may hit. It's soft metal so it won't take much time.
Old 08-12-2002 | 03:09 AM
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima2k2
have you considered modifying the splash guard so that it fits better.

how low is your front, my rears are tucked and they are only 7.5 wide so luckily i've never had any rubbing, but my tires are 245/40/18. i just wish my front was a little lower so it looked more even but unless i get coilovers that woin't happen with any springs out for a maxima. they are something i'd consider way after i was done with a lot of other things for my car, i really want AWESOME speakers now.
It's actually rubbing the sidewall of the tire as the suspension compresses. The fender is rubbing (metal), not the inner splash gaurd. There is about 1/2 a finger gap in the front, a little less in the rear.
Old 08-12-2002 | 03:10 AM
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Originally posted by dmbmaxima2k2
my tires are 245/40/18.
What kind of wheels did you get?
Old 08-12-2002 | 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by cobymoby


What kind of wheels did you get?
5-Zigen MO-5 Inperios in 18x7.5 not sure of the offest but i could look.

I know 245 on a 7.5 is pushing it but i went to one of the best shops in the area and they mounted them for me no scratches. i like the bulge you get with that wide a tire on that rim. it's gonna be hard to curb rash them plus you get that extra contact patch.
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although i don't have 8.5s...mine are 19x8s...245/35/19s...i only rub if i have a passenger in the back, or drive real fast on one of those freeway bumps...
Old 08-12-2002 | 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by asu174


Front is banging. Loud. Especially while turning and going over bumps. Front setting is on 2 although it bangs on 4 also. I'm starting to think that KYBs are crap.
Does it sound like springs popping? *BOING* ?
Old 08-12-2002 | 11:21 PM
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Can someone tell me why Im not rubbbing ? Are Maxspeeds the reason, or any other item ?? I only had them rub once in Mexico with 4 people in the car over a heavy dip.....
Old 08-13-2002 | 02:00 AM
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Originally posted by kloogy
Can someone tell me why Im not rubbbing ? Are Maxspeeds the reason, or any other item ?? I only had them rub once in Mexico with 4 people in the car over a heavy dip.....
That's what I want to know!! We have the same width tires (245) and wheels 8.5. Kloogy has a +35 so he has even less clearance than me (I'm a +37). I rolled my rear fenders TWICE today and it still rubs, although not as bad.

My suspension in the rear is lowered so that I can just fit my finger between the top of the tire and fender. The front fender gap is a bit tighter than that.
Old 08-13-2002 | 09:27 AM
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So would it be safe to say 19x8.5's w/ 40 offset wrapped in 245/40's won't rub???
Old 08-13-2002 | 10:18 AM
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What are you guys refering to when you mention the offset of your wheels? Sorry for the ignorance.

Originally posted by kloogy
I have the 35 offset with 245/35's... I'm sure your Coilovers make your car lower. I have only done real hard cornering with 2 people in the car. I have done a bit of driving with 4 people in the car, a lot of it even in Baja Calif... no rubbing yet.
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Originally posted by cobymoby
I found out where it's rubbing.

I need to shave the inside of the fender 1mm, literally, 1mm!! When the suspension compresses, the sidewall of the tire is JUST grazing the fender. Out comes the dremel.....
Instead of the dremel, try a wooden baseball bat. Sometimes, you can roll the inside of the fender lip with the bat enough to clear the offending tire. Put one side of the bat on the top of the tire and have the handle end sticking out (towards you if you are standing looking at the tire). Then, gently "roll" the bat along the top of the tire while pushing down on it (so the bat wants to rub up against the inside of the wheel well.)

If you only need 1mm, Id give this a try. If you are careful, you can do it without cracking the paint on the inside of the lip. (The dremel will obviously remove the paint, which can lead to corrosion down the road.)
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Originally posted by cobymoby


That's what I want to know!! We have the same width tires (245) and wheels 8.5. Kloogy has a +35 so he has even less clearance than me (I'm a +37). I rolled my rear fenders TWICE today and it still rubs, although not as bad.

My suspension in the rear is lowered so that I can just fit my finger between the top of the tire and fender. The front fender gap is a bit tighter than that.

i'm not 100%, but i believe MM evo5's in 19's have 40mm offset. i called tirerack the other day and that's what they told me.
Old 08-13-2002 | 09:56 PM
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Instead of the dremel, try a wooden baseball bat. Sometimes, you can roll the inside of the fender lip with the bat enough to clear the offending tire. Put one side of the bat on the top of the tire and have the handle end sticking out (towards you if you are standing looking at the tire). Then, gently "roll" the bat along the top of the tire while pushing down on it (so the bat wants to rub up against the inside of the wheel well.)

If you only need 1mm, Id give this a try. If you are careful, you can do it without cracking the paint on the inside of the lip. (The dremel will obviously remove the paint, which can lead to corrosion down the road.)
I looked at the sheetmetal and said forget it with the deremel. I used the baseball bat method to roll my fenders. Good thing I had practice on other people's cars before I did it to my own car.
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i'm not 100%, but i believe MM evo5's in 19's have 40mm offset. i called tirerack the other day and that's what they told me.
Thats who my wheels came from. I called the guy who ordered them for me, and he told me they were 35 offset. He might have been wrong...??
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So would it be safe to say 19x8.5's w/ 40 offset wrapped in 245/40's won't rub???
i heard others recommend 245/35r19's for our cars. ????
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i heard others recommend 245/35r19's for our cars. ????
I heard/read those fit better too, but I want to go with a larger series tire to hopefully prevent any damage from potholes or dips...cuz there are plenty in SoCal.
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