He has a 2.5 exhaust and thats it. I have 22 extra horses, Y pipe, exhaust and intake. Who's going to win? I rode in it a few times and it feels quick especially when the VTEC kicks in. That VTEC is pretty nuts you can actually hear it kicking in with the exhaust. Oh yeah non SH just means no limited slip. 5spd vs. 5spd

 

Should be an even start, but overall you should smoke him.

 

it will be a very very close race.. those cars hit high 14's stock. my bro hit 14.7 at the track bone stock and it was his first time he also has the non SH 5spd.

 

SH donot have limited slip, you are referring to ATTS, wwhich helps it in handling and cornering. Helped it win the best handling car in 97 from C&D mag. You should get him from a start but once his VTEC kicks in It will be close.

 

I agree, it should be close if he can drive. The non SH Prelude should be a bit quicker than the SH model because it's lighter from what I heard.

 

You should win no matter what. stock vs stock its close with your favor but since your modded you shouldnt have a problem at all.

race him and tell us.

 

duno man but he got bit 18" wheels...

 

just smoke that fool and come back and tell us the good news.

 

if the only thing he has is the exhaust, then there's no chance in hell that he can win...Prelude's come with around 155hp to their wheel and you started out with 187hp to the wheel...with your mods, you're pushing quite close to 200fwhp right now, and you two weigh about the same(never knew this but Preludes are heavy!!)

just don't miss shift!

SH come with ATTS(Active Torque Transfer System)...but i didn't think they came with LSD...u sure about that?

 

I remeber seeing a test in either C/D or M/T where they compared the prelude v. the Integra GSR they *****ed about the prelude being extremely heavy compared to the GSR. I think they have like the same engines. (Dont qoute me on that) but anyways the GSR whooped the prelude, which ran like a 7.7 0-60 and a 15.5-.7 1/4. Cant exactly remeber 1/4 time. The prelude is very heavy and having riden in one I can tell you I wasnt all that impressed.

 

The last test C&D driver did comparing the lude was in 2000 comparing the GSR,Eclipse,GSR,Lude,And the Celica and guess what the Prelude Won. The lude did 0-60 in 6.7 winning acceleration and handling. The GSR was at 7.3 sec. I am looking at the issue here now. The Ecslipse had the highest top speed of 144 and Prelude was second at 140.

 

isn't the prelude a 4 banger

 

Yes, the prelude is a 4 banger. Nobody said it wasn't.


Preludes have the 2.2 liter engine H22. Integra GSRs have a 1.8 liter engine B18.

 

i can only give u my experience...
roommate's got a prelude, auto tho. at light, GAVE him a 1/2 car lead, then went after him. caught up by 2nd gear and just started pulling away. i would assume a 5 speed prelude would have been closer. good luck!

 

You're not gonna smoke him, but you should win a close race. I raced Preludes many times in a 2k 5spd, and these cars are very evenly matched up.

 

considering if u driver perfectly and so does he, u should easily take him, cmon guys he has i/y/e, with a good driver thats good for some mid 14s with 94-96mph traps.

 

The Prelude 5spd actually puts down 165hp-170hp to the wheels stock its the auto Lude that puts 155hp to the wheels. My Accord V6 with 200Hp puts down 158hp to the wheels stock and its an auto.

The Base Lude weighs 2900lbs compared to 3200lbs for the Maxima. He has 300lbs on you but you have the HP and TQ advantage. It should be very close!

 

I raced my friends auto lude with i/h/e while I was stock even have the 15 inch steelies with bicycle width tires . I murdered him, I could barely see his headlights behind me, of course I have slight tint back there. It was too many car lenghts for me to measure. Of course he totalled it today, so he is probably going to be getting something faster. I haven't gotten to race a 5 speed yet though.

 

an auto lude is incredibly slow, u have to remember that the Lude doesnt actually get moving until it hits VTEC, and with an automatic transmission that wont launch any higher than 2000-2500 rpm, u have a problem bc u have roughly 3000rpms where u are not in your powerband, any maxima would beat an auto lude, its the 5spds that we need to worry about.

 

I am not doubting you but if you have a stock 00' Maxima Auto you would have had your *** handed to you and if you have a stock 5spd he should have barely beat you. Now if you are modded then your statement seems tolerable.

 

We are both going to the track I am going to run 15" steelies.


Oh yeah I raced him from a 60mph roll and he had no chance. Granted that was with the heavy 18"s on.

 

Damn there's a previous Honda owner.

 

auto lude runs mid 16 don't they??

 

They are supposed to run high 15's but I have no doubt that some hit mid 16's.

 

well I searched & got this
http://www.preludeonline.com/showthr...ude+track+time

lol kinda slow

the modded one ran a 15.48 th estock auto ran like 16.6


ohh!! and this one too with 50 shots ran a 15.9
http://www.preludeonline.com/showthr...threadid=76851

 

i have an auto '00 maxima and i could prove that even a i/h/e auto lude wouldnt hand teh maxima its ***. Stock auto ludes cant launch period. A friend of mine had a '98 civic DX automatic, the 4dr version, and when he raced my friends auto lude, no matter how they launched off the line it was the same, dead even until the Lude hits VTEC, which by the way is VERY noticeable, once teh Lude hit VTEC it was over, just took off like the civic was standing still. I raced my friends same civic when i was stock, and it was no contest off the line, i would immediately pull right ahead a carlength away and just keep pulling away. From a roll on, the i/h/e Lude would probably take a stock auto maxima no questions, but from a stop, im gonna have to still say the maxima would win, even against and i/h/e auto lude.

 

Don't the autos have that Tiptronic-like sport shift like the acuras? Would there be a difference if he was in that "manual" mode instead of the auto?

 

People people, please.. How many times do I have to say this?

All of you who say "I murdered a prelude", how fast did you take the car up to? 40mph? 60mph? Of course maximas will beat an lude in a 0-40 sprint..

Try racing a lude up to 120mph.. And then tell me that you "killed it".

Preludes are pretty fast cars. I love preludes. The 5dp prelude had unbelievable throttle response.. If I didnt know any better, I'd have thought it was a V6.

 

Dude I raced a Lude from a stop light to about 110 and the guy was about 3 cars behind me.. Then I slowed down, the fool passed me and stuck his hand out the sunroof and pointed 4 Vs 6.. I assume he meant I4 Vs V6.. why rev, start a race, and then loose and make excuses

 

My bad, forgot to throw in the part about how I am a 5 speed. I now have a berk intake but at that time I didn't. We raced up to about 105.

 

The auto-stick or sport shifter(I think that's what they call it) is nothing compared to Porsche's Tiptronic. The auto-stick is practically the same as manually shifting an automatic.


Who said I used to be a Honda owner??? Just cuz I know what an H22 and a B18 are? It helps to know what other cars have so you don't look stupid when you claim your car is better and faster. I have never owned a Honda and don't plan on owning one. My girlfriend has a 00 Prelude 5spd and that thing is sweet to drive.

 

Yes, the auto does have Tiptronic sport shift like the TL,CL. It feels faster in manual mode and I am sure it is because fuel cutoff is 8000 not 7400 like redline.

 

werent the tachometers off in teh preludes tho?

 

I was just guessing fuc...why get all up set! I am not ashamed that I was a honda owner, but most of the peeeps that rip on hondas don't even know the engine name. That was the only point I was trying to make.

 

Correct.

Tony

 

Taken from Car and Driver about the 1998 Prelude Type SH 5-speed:
Performance specs are listed as new and with 40K miles.


Displacement. .. . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .132 cu in, 2157cc
Power (SAE net). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .195 bhp @ 7000 rpm
Torque (SAE net). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 156 lb-ft @ 5250 rpm
Transmission. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .5-speed manual
Wheelbase. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .101.8 in
Length. . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 178.0 in
Curb weight. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3038 lb
Performance:. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .new/40,000
Zero to 60 mph. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6.9 sec/7.2 sec
Zero to 100 mph. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 19.6 sec/19.8 sec
Zero to 130 mph. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .34.7 sec/35.5 sec
Street start, 5-60. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8.1 sec/7.9 sec
Standing 1/4-mile. . . . .. . . ..15.4 sec/15.6 sec

BTW...the 2K3 SE 6-speed weighs 3,320 lbs. So I'm not sure why people say the Prelude is so heavy, it's almost 300 lbs lighter. The SH is about 200 lbs heavier becasue of the ATTS, so a non-SH would be 500 lbs lighter than a Max.

I thought the Lude would have had better times! My best 1/4 time in my Max (auto) was 15.7...not far behind the 5-speed Lude times.

Tony

 

The Tach is not off but the motor can be revved past redline to its fuel cutoff at 8000-8100rpms.

 

Heheh.. I thought you were trying to diss me saying I was a Honda owner. Well, I guess you can say I'm a Honda driver since I'm always driving my girlfriend's Prelude.

As for the tachometer/redline thing, I can vouche for being able to pass the given redline until fuel cutoff, but I'm not sure if it's as high as 8k rpms. I'll check it out next time I drive the Prelude, just don't tell my girlfriend I drive her car hard. I do it all the time, since she doesn't. She says when the car is revving higher, the car is struggling. I just tell her... yeah, struggling to reach VTEC! She never revs past 5k so she never hits VTEC.

Horsepower-wise, I've seen dynos of both the non-SH and SH. The non-SH puts more horsepower to the wheels.

 

I'm pretty sure I could hit no higher than 8K on my Prelude.

Tony

 

i don't know...when my friend dynoed his Prelude SH 5 speed, he only laid down 159hp to the wheels...after getting custom CAI, DC headers, Apexi N1 catback, FPR, Apexi V-AFC, computer...he was laying down about 190hp to the wheels...his car is all gutted except for his dash and front door panels and when we race, we're close..

now as to other Preludes...i know there are some Preludes that are really fast..there's a yellow Prelude in so cal that has a fully built H22 with T4 turbo+intercooler that's laying down about 375 to the wheels..but that's a very rare case tho...i've raced many preludes but every time i do it, it's not really that close..