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Old Aug 16, 2002 | 03:25 PM
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Guys, my brother used to have a Prelude with i/e i ran a 14.77 @ 94mph in it. A stock 5spd lude is good for high 14s/low 15s depending on weather/driver. check www.preludeonline.com drag racing forum for times.. plenty of them r in 14s stock or with minor boltons. They are not slow cars with the 5spd, but the auto is pretty sorry.
Old Aug 16, 2002 | 04:17 PM
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maxima should win !!!

i have raced many many ludes!
at the time i was on 18's and had an intake, i raced a lude(non sh) with exhaust,intake, i won.
another time i beat a SH.
usually off the line it's kinda close but i pull after 2nd and 3rd.
although i got raped by a 1995 lude with 75 shoot of juice!!
Old Aug 16, 2002 | 06:29 PM
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From www.clubsi.com some prelude owners on there have spoken to death that the base model puts down more power than the SH because it has less drivetrain loss (NO ATTS)
Old Aug 17, 2002 | 08:57 AM
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Yes, the auto does have Tiptronic sport shift like the TL,CL. It feels faster in manual mode and I am sure it is because fuel cutoff is 8000 not 7400 like redline.
For the record, its called a 'Sequential Shift' or 'SS'. However, its really no more effective(performancewise) than any other Honda auto tranny.

As for this thread, just know that a well driven 5sp 5th gen Lude WILL pull off a 15.3sec ET. With a high quality I/H/E (i.e.: DC Sports 4-2-1 header, AEM CAI and APEXi catback) they WILL run upper 14s. NOTE: The 4th gen VTEC Si Ludes ARE a bit quicker than the 5th gens. DO NOT underestimate them!!
Old Aug 17, 2002 | 11:12 AM
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This thread is starting to sound like a Prelude Forum. heheh
Old Aug 17, 2002 | 01:43 PM
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This thread is starting to sound like a Prelude Forum. heheh
Has anyone mentioned in this thread yet that the Ludes will kick our ***** in the twisties? Someone usually does in these Prelude discussions, but I don't remember seeing one yet and thought I'd be the first this time!

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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 02:01 PM
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Has anyone mentioned in this thread yet that the Ludes will kick our ***** in the twisties?
Oh yeah, the Prelude can smoke a Max in the twisties!!
Old Aug 17, 2002 | 05:23 PM
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Oh yeah, the Prelude can smoke a Max in the twisties!!
Funny you guys say that because I was under the prelude the other day and noticed it comes with both front and rear sway bars stock. My friend has the ground control coilovers with tokiko illuminas and the ride is so sweet its not even funny. There is absolutely no body roll in the turns at speed and it just feels more stable in the turns compared with the max. If a max has rear and front sway bars with a FSTB it should have similar effects as far as body roll and chasis flex. He has a broken axle now so I guess the 1/4 mile runs are on hold for a while.
Old Aug 17, 2002 | 08:02 PM
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Funny you guys say that because I was under the prelude the other day and noticed it comes with both front and rear sway bars stock. My friend has the ground control coilovers with tokiko illuminas and the ride is so sweet its not even funny. There is absolutely no body roll in the turns at speed and it just feels more stable in the turns compared with the max. If a max has rear and front sway bars with a FSTB it should have similar effects as far as body roll and chasis flex. He has a broken axle now so I guess the 1/4 mile runs are on hold for a while.
Also, our maximas don't have independent rear suspensions.
Old Aug 19, 2002 | 12:50 AM
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Also, our maximas don't have independent rear suspensions.
Isn't independent rear suspension mainly for ride comfort/luxory? Doesn't the 350Z have a rear multilink?

Watch as this thread goes from Maxima to Prelude to 350Z!
Old Aug 19, 2002 | 04:33 AM
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Originally posted by 8702


Isn't independent rear suspension mainly for ride comfort/luxory? Doesn't the 350Z have a rear multilink?

Watch as this thread goes from Maxima to Prelude to 350Z!
My understanding of independent rear suspension is that when one wheel is affected by the road (cornering, pothole, bump, etc) the other wheel is not. Ever take a turn and hit a bump or hole and feel the car lose a few inches as it slides toward the outside? Ind. suspension allows the unaffected tire to remain in contact with road and help stabilize the car.

Of course, there's a lot more to it than that, but this is the part I know about.

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Old Aug 19, 2002 | 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by Tony Fernandes


My understanding of independent rear suspension is that when one wheel is affected by the road (cornering, pothole, bump, etc) the other wheel is not. Ever take a turn and hit a bump or hole and feel the car lose a few inches as it slides toward the outside? Ind. suspension allows the unaffected tire to remain in contact with road and help stabilize the car.

Of course, there's a lot more to it than that, but this is the part I know about.

Tony
Then why does the 350Z have a multilink if independent suspension is better? I don't know much about this stuff I just have a questions. I always thought a stronger frame and structure would be better under a lot of tension from turns. I mean that's why we have strut bars and sway bars right? You described basically comfort levels when you hit bumps or holes. I agree with you though about keeping the tires in contact with the road. On a flat course, maybe the multilink handles better. In rally racing, I think there's no doubt independent is better. Just my logic.. If I'm wrong, please correct.
Old Aug 19, 2002 | 09:57 PM
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Maxima has multilink BEAM, 350Z has multilink something else.......but the 350Z DOES indeed have a independant rear suspension.
Old Aug 20, 2002 | 12:05 AM
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Originally posted by 8702


Then why does the 350Z have a multilink if independent suspension is better? I don't know much about this stuff I just have a questions. I always thought a stronger frame and structure would be better under a lot of tension from turns. I mean that's why we have strut bars and sway bars right? You described basically comfort levels when you hit bumps or holes. I agree with you though about keeping the tires in contact with the road. On a flat course, maybe the multilink handles better. In rally racing, I think there's no doubt independent is better. Just my logic.. If I'm wrong, please correct.
Oh, well what I meant by the hole pothole/bump thing was that the car will not slide out as much in a turn. Regardless of comfort, the independent suspension will result in better handling. To be honest, I don't know if having either suspension will result in better or worse comfort levels, but I would assume that ind. suspension will be a little smoother on an uneven road.

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Old Aug 20, 2002 | 11:51 AM
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From the October SCC...

"At the rear, we found what looks very similar to the multi-link suspension once found under virtually every '90s rear-drive Nissan. Broken into its basic elements, the rear suspension is basically a double wishbone with a few extra toe-control links."
Under the stats box, the rear suspension is listed as: Multilink, anti-roll bar

What kind of multi-link did those 90s reaer-drive Nissans have?
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