okay guys i have a 2002 accord v6 my friend has a 20th anniversary maxima the 227 hp one. Know he thinks he can rape me but i think he cant. we are both stock. I got my car three weeks ago and i jst broke into it. know the looking at statistics the maxima does 0-60 in 7.0 sec and 1/4 in 15.6 amd the accord v6 does it in 7.4 and 1/4 in 15.9. know these are very close numbers but on the street crasy things can happen. know with honest opinions can he beat me or can i beat him or does it come down to the driver who ever has a better launch.
people told me whoever has a better start will win.

can you all fill me in....



thanks

 

Are either one manual? That will have a lot to do with it as well as start, but with straight auto transmissions your friend in the max should win, but it would probly be close. Manuals on the other hand are different.

 

Mag racing

AV6 vs 00-01 Maxima 5spd (equal mods)
http://www.maximaproducts.com/movies/toylet-accord1.avi
http://www.maximaproducts.com/movies/toylet-accord2.avi

Are you sure he's a 5spd, or is he an automatic?

 

sorry about that both the cars are auto and both are stock

 

Dang! Good videos Stevtec, thanks for setting me straight.

 

Ah, that's different.

If the Maxima guy just lets the computer do the shifting, it will be pretty darn close, but he'll still probably pull a little.

If the Maxima guy manually shifts (the computer shift point is NOT optimal), he will pull a good couple of cars on you. With manual shifting, 00-01 Maxima autos can pull solid mid-15's bone stock.

 

The Maxima will get you out of the hole, more torque better power band, but you will come back some as VTEC kicks in. My money is on the Max.

 

thanks but i think still think i can beat him.
you have to look at the fact that these cars are very close in performance and that the better driver will win but thats my opinions.


i cant see the video i can hear the cars but i cant see anything.

 

In the video the max blew it away, wasnt close at any time. Since they are both autos, how will the driver make a difference? The start is what is important. Let us know how it goes if you race him though.

 

then why debate the issue? Just go to it and see who wins...

 

Facts? Facts are not magazine times... Here are the facts...

Horsepower
Max AE: 3285lb / 227HP = 14.5 lb/HP <== ADVANTAGE
AV6 : 3300lb / 200HP = 16.5 lb/HP

Torque
Max AE: 3285lb / 217TQ = 15.1 lb/TQ <== ADVANTAGE
AV6 : 3300lb / 195TQ = 16.9 lb/TQ

Powerband

Maxima: Makes peak torque at 4000rpm, and from what I understand will move pretty darn good from as low as 3000rpm. And becuase of the variable intake manifold, it holds power all the way to redline. The VQ engines have extremely wide powerbands.

AV6: Econo VTEC variant results in absolutely ZERO low-end torque. Power doesn't come on at all until 3500rpm, and even then you don't really start to move until about 4200rpm. And instead of pulling hard from there all the way up to redline, the J30A1 falls flat on its face after 5800rpm, and by the time you reach 6300rpm the engine is ghasping for breathe, meanwhile the Max's VQ (00-01, VQ30DE-K) is still ripping.

I used to drive an AV6, and I'm still an active member over at AccordV6.com. When I bought the car, I thought it was just as fast as a Maxima auto because of "mag times", but I was wrong. Flat wrong. auotMax's can run better times stock than a lot of Accord V6 guys can with several THOUSAND dollars in bolt-on mods. That's not to say that you won't beat him, though. Again, if he doesn't manually shift then you could take him. But car vs car (excluding driver), Max's have the edge.

Good luck

 

start from a roll u'll have a better chance, no matter how hard u try off the line unless you netural drop or something the maxima will always take you off the line unless on rain/ice...

 

AV6's don't come in manual, so auto only.

I've driven (not raced) both 2001 Max SE and a 2001 AV6 and the Max just feels faster, pulls harder.

 

Last car I owned b4 my Max was a 2000 Accord Coupe V6. Drop an intake(RS Akimoto) and a Greddy catback. You still don't stand a chance in hell. It will run like hell but, VQ Max is one hella motha. Good luck and ejoy the ride. Don't forget to drop it with an Eibach pro-kit. Both cars are a hell of a lot of fun to drive, the Max is just more fun.

 

I raced a 2k2 V6 one

Me: 2k1 SE auto, 17" wheels, 1/2 tank of gas, Berk Intake, A/S tires, trunk with the stock airbox and some other ****.

Him: 2k2 LX-V6, steel rims(16" i think), empty trunk, 2 or 3 gallons left in tank, and they were 2 inside. both weigh around 160 pounds like me.

i manaully shifted all the time and hit redline everysingle time. i hunked 3 times and then we went for it. i just mashed the acclerator and so did he. we ran 7 times. 4 of them i got him by almost nothing, his front bumper was at my front door thats it. he got me 3 times when i spinned a little bit. i think he manaul shifted a few times, but other then that i don't know what happened there.

i think my intake ruined it because i lost a lot of low-end power now with the intake(i hate it).

i took the AV6 from 0-90....and you can sure feel power between 3-5.5 k but after 5.5 there is like nothing. the max you can feel it ALL the way through redline like SteVTEC said

do you think that i should take off the intake?

 

Thanks for the video SteVTEC! It did sound like toylet was rev limiting first for a while. So I guess he could have won by more!

 

thanks for the input but when my bro was looking for a car he was looking at nissan. my bro asked which is faster the av6 or the max. they dealer guy said truthfully if the 5 speed max raced an av6 off the start the max would take it but later on at higher speed the accord would catch up and pull on the max. know this is a dealer telling my bro this.

soo what you guys think about this

i dont if its true but this is a guy trying to sell my bro a car nd telling him the car competition is faster i dont know.

and obviuosly the max is gonna feel faster because it has a bigger engine so it would make sense that the max feels faster and the max leans more towards a sport car and the accord does...

 

Well who knows what will happen. Race him and find out. Now a 2k2 max and av6...there would be no doubt about that at all.

 

The Max feels faster because it has more low-end mid-range and high-end. Both engines are 3.0's. The Max is a big-bore while the Accord's is a "square" engine. The 5speed will ripp a big whole especially in 3rd gear. The Accord has no top-end even with VTEC.

 

The 01 Maxima has the same size engine (3.0) as the Accord. If you're talking about a new Maxima, there is no contest. The 2k2's will smoke an Accord, down low, in the middle and up top.

 

yeah the 2k2 max would rip me a new ******* i love the 2k2 max i think its beatiful i was about to get black gxe b4 i got my accord but nissan wasnt giving me a good deal on my trade in. the max is an 2k2 is an amazing car. you feel the power when you floor it. but the 2k1 with the av6 would be a good race...
whenever i end up racing him ill tell you what happens

 

Just goes to show that car salesmen will say ANYTHING to sell a car. I guess he had at least *some* morality and couldn't lie completely, because then you'd *know* he was bs'ing ya, LOL. About the only 5spd Maxima that an AV6 could probably beat (stock vs stock) is a 3rd Gen Maxima with the VG engine (160HP/182TQ, 3.0 SOHC V6) or an even earlier Maxima.

4th Gen 5spd (190HP/205TQ) vs AV6: no contest, cake walk for Maxima
5th Gen 5spd (222HP/217TQ)vs AV6: same
5th Gen 6spd (255HP/246TQ) vs AV6: like taking candy from a baby

The auto's are different though...

4th Gen auto vs AV6: slight advantage to Maxima
5th Gen auto vs AV6: slightly bigger advantage to Maxima
02+ Gen5 auto vs AV6: no contest.

 

personaly ive raced a few accordV6s but me car isnt completly stock, ive ran 4 accordV6s won all 4... also when i was bone stock i raced a AE at the track and i won that one.... and my car is a Automagic, but truthfully go race him and find out, you may win, you may not. Heck ive ran V8 mustang GTs and won, you never know till ya try.

Good Luck

 

Good point, you've got to race to find out. Graduated college in 1991, bought a 1990 Autotragic 5.0. Has the auto tranny modified, even the lines, blew the door out of everything I ever raced, 300ZX's, 3000GT's, Camaro Z28's, everything except any Corvettes, those were no contest. Even blew the doors out of many, I do mean many 5spd. 5.0's. Go race him, come back and tell us what happens. My best friend is about to buy a 2K2 Accord V6 Coupe. Guess I'll have to buy him an intake for X-Mas.

 

Maxima would take the accord no prob!!

 

Have you posted this on the Accord forums? If you have, what have they been saying?

 

I AM the Accord forum.

 

I think he'll rape you (no offense) cause i've walked so much accords it isnt funny, i dont even waste gas on them anymore... and this is including 4cyls and 6cyls and any gen you wanna choose not to mention some of these had CAI and full exhaust, all i have is a STILLEN intake plus im automagic w/ 69k miles

 

The Accord is going to dominate you.







Someone had to say something negative. We all know what the real outcome will be.

 

My girl drives a V6 Accord. From a stop she looses rather drastically, from a 40+ roll she keeps up untill i shift into 3rd. Then it is over (for her).
I have a 5spd AE.

 

IBTL


























accord gets owned

 

I own a '98 AV6 stock. Also own a moderately modified AE Maxima, 5-speed. Stock for stock, the cars were no contest...the Maxima moved much faster off the line and in the high end (don't know about this whole VTEC kicking in, but it really doesn't accomplish any magic...the car is still less powerful than the Maxima at the top-end).

Given that your buddy is an auto, the race would be close I'm sure, but if he manually shifts the sucker, I say he's got you cold. If you both let the computer shift, you might have a chance since the Maxima auto tranny has such a crappy track record. If you think you've got him...then by all means...head to the track and find out.

 

it all depends on the gearing.. but is ur bro gonna race above 130mph? the accord might have longer gears making it more economical to drive on the freeway. longer gears means lower rpms at higher speeds.. the 2k maxima is capable of running 15.333 bone stock. imo the interior of a maxima is nicer than the accord, so also gotta factor that in when ur bro is choosing a car. some ppl think the maxima is rediculously ugly, but i haven't heard much negative comments on accords styling. so if u bro can live with the looks of the maxima then i would recomend it. but another advantage the accord has over the maxima is the huge aftermarket support.

 

i just watched these videos...is that a 2k, 2k1 max, or a 2k2? that race wasn't ANYWHERE close, just wondering.

 

Do you read much?

Just joshin ya

The answer can be found inside your own post as 00-01 Max's are largely the same.

 

My sister owns an accord v6 coupe, 2k. Everytime I go home I am amazed at how tight the car is, but I have a 2K SE, with some mods I know that her accord would get owned, I can take out most modded AV6 sedans with basic bolt-ons/ Accords are very nice cars IMHO, but:

No Torque = No fun

 

I can smoke you at will ! ..slow *** auto !

 

my .o2

a guy in my neighborhood took dads brand new 01 accord V6 LX and there was another guy in 97 camry V6, both auto. Camry took him like you would not believe. Well, if a camryh can pull on hondah then max will rape them both, auto or manual.

 

Hey omaiS, I raced a few time with my friend who own a 2002 Accord v6, I beat him off the line everytime, we are both auto but I'm no stock so it probably help me beat him off the line, same thing when we switched car he beat me with my max.

Cheers

AA

 

ok dude, maybe i'm being really dumb...i guess what i meant was whether that max was a (2k,2k1), or a (2k2). i know the 2k's and the 2k1's are very alike, but the 2k2's are quicker, and that margin of victory looked a little too much to be created by a 22hp differential. but...the answer may be very obvious and i may be getting fixated on something irrelevant