I did a little tinkering in CarTest2000.

 

That's crazy. But I am sure a M5 could do better than a 2.20 60' considering it is RWD.

 

Where you get this program from? Seems interesting.

Dixit

 

2.20 is a bad 60' for a RWD car. I would like to see how the race would turn out in real life.

 

whoops. I just realized that I had the Bimmer set to REAL shifting times and Kev's car still set at the default "GRANNY" shift parameters. Once I level the playing field once again, the new 1/4 mile time is:

13.06s @ 110.19 mph

So Kev's car would be even FASTER than the numbers reflected in the images above. Hey Kev, beware of MASSIVE wheelspin going into 2nd gear!

 

Y2KevSE vs M5

70 mph roll-on to 1 mile distance:

Kev: 28.26s @ 158.51 mph (about to hit the rev-limiter in 5th! )
M5: 29.08s @ 153.05 mph (about to hit the electronic 155 limiter)

Oh yeah...

www.cartest2000.com

 

Interesting program....The M5 does very well considering it weighs 800 lbs more.

 

Yes it does. Torque

 

13.06s @ 110.19 mph



And you are using stats from the 3.125 pulley... I have the 2.87 pulley, remember?

 

And that's with MASSIVE wheelspin going into 2nd. Unfortunately there's no way to "feather" the throttle in CarTest that I know of. LOL. Ari knows more tricks in this than I do, though, so maybe there's a way. With good grip you should be able to hit 12's

oh that's right. Okay, so you're even FASTER now once again. hehe. But you never dynoed the 2.87 did you? What do you estimate you're putting out at the crank with the 2.87 midget. I'll re-run the sims with those figures

 

dude, mount some slicks when you go to the track. There is no way you are gonna get traction with that much hp

 

2.87 has to be up in the 320hp to the wheels range.

Dixit

 

3.125" dyno by jhans114 was 322 at the wheels.

I will dyno once the clutch is broken in.

 

Sweet. Can't wait to see it!!

In the meantime, start stalking on www.bmwm5.com and see who the biggest trash talker is. Then we can have "Mitchell Davidson Round 2"

hehehe







j/p kev, I know that's not you at all ;-)

 

You can be my troll



j/k

 

that'll take a while...since you peeps just don't drive up there...

 

Doesn't he have like 18x8.5" rims with 245 tires? Or were those Janes?

 

i don't think those are Jane's

he bought those 18x8.5 Volks and rapped them with bridgstones RE 730(if i remember correctly)

 

That's because everything is CLOSE.


2001SE is correct. 245/40/18

 

it doesn't matter if it runs 14 secs.. its still and M5 and kev still driving a maxima

 

A M5 is what, about $72K and running only a 13s??? I rather have a Maxima+15K and run 11s. That's what I'm hoping for in my 2K2.

 

A M5 is what, about $72K and running only a 13s??? I rather have a Maxima+15K and run 11s. That's what I'm hoping for in my 2K2.

 

I would rather have a 15 second m5 than a boosted maxima..

 

But,

Would you be willing to pay $75K for a M5

OR

$25K for a 2K2 Maxima AND $50K for a C5 Corvette.


Even possibly a Z06 if you add in all the gas guzzler and luxury tax you'll pay on the M5?

 

i am sorry.. but if money was no object.. which would be the case if i was looking to purchase an M5.. then M5 it would be

 

The M5 is about the total package. It can also handle well and the brakes are some of the best. Like Sprint said, if money was no object Id get an M5. You can pull up next to a C5 at a light with a couple of your buddies riding with you and still be competitive.

 

i have an idea! come down to so cal! by the time you drive back up, you'll have broken in your clutch already!! HA!

 

A M5 or a boosted Maxima? lol...come on, you don't even have think about it. M5 hands down! Most of us can't afford a M5 though. I think if we could afford a M5, most of us would choose the M5. I know I would. Heck, I would take M3 over a boosted Maxima. With the M5 or M3, you don't need to "mod" it at all. It's good enough as is. Those are two of the cars I would just leave along and not mod it at all if I could afford them.

 

The M5 might not be the top dog next year. The new E55 is coming soon with 476hp and 500+ ft/lbs. Also the RS6 is here this fall with a twin turbo V8 making 450hp.

 

No...I've got a few stories of a C5, M5, and a GS400.

It wasn't pretty for the M5 and not even a long shot for the GS4.

 

Stock M5 vs C5 Manual is a drivers race. I believe the M5 is faster above 100.

My friend has a 01' C5 Manual with Borla Stingers, Ripper Shifer, and Intake and my other friend has a 02' M3 with a Supersprint Catback and a STS. When they race its about even to 80 and then the Vette pulls away at higher speeds slightly. They are both awesome drivers.

 

How did you capture those screen shots? I've been wanting to do that for the longest. I ran a quick simulation of the stillen 5th gen pace car, it dynoed 308whp/244wtq so I'll assume it is running the 3.125 pulley. This car does the 70mph roll 0-5280ft in 29.04 @ 155mph. BTW Steve try using the 2000 M5, I actually put a dyno for the power curve and results are quite different vs the 2002 (difference between flywheel % loss and actual dyno power). I get a 28.46 @ 156mph with a 70mph roll 0-5280ft run. To get rid of the wheelspin change the car to AWD, it doesn't really matter from a roll unless there is alot of power. However it does show what some FWD/RWD cars would run with 1.8-1.9 60's .

 

Where did this program come from and just how acurate is it...So many things play into times, road conditions, driver ect...It'd be better to see it acually done.

 

Hey not everyone can drive buying a fast car doesn't automatically make you a good driver

 

That's the whole point of the program. It ensures a level playing field and allows you to accurately compare cars. It makes sure you have equal driver weight, equally skilled driving (shift times), equal fuel weight, same temperature conditions, tire pressures, etc. etc etc.

 

LOL...I cranked up my screen resolution to 1600 x 1200 to capture it.

Yeah I saw that. When Kev re-dyno's I'll plug in those numbers and then re-run both. BMW seems to rate their power a bit conservatively.

Never thought of that. Thanks!

 

Hmm I'll play with print screen alittle hehe. Also I'm sure you noticed some of the 300whp+ FWD cars on there. They are fast from a roll but slow in the 1/4 unless they are given AWD. Just try one of the turbo 200sx se-r's. There is a 1 second difference between a 2.10 60' and a 1.75 60' in ET . Then 1.5 sec of wheelspin doesn't help in 2nd gear doesn't help either .

 

At dtm power they are saying the M5 will come out with something like a v10 with 500 hp.. I'd rather take a M5 over a 30k maxima with 30k of mods.. BMW M5.. Maxima.. hmm...

 

Alt + Print Screen. The object is then on the clipboard. You might have to save it in Word, though.

 

Do you think M5 owners notice or care??