I beat a SS camaro from a roll he even said go. I lost from a stop. The 2k2 and the mustang GT from a roll should be about the same. The rolling start test is real world acceleration. The GT will not have an advantage. It does however have the from a stop advantage. Its called rear wheel drive. Just like the SS beat me from a stop. No traction.

 

Monster motorsports does it here locally in Cali... I made the mistake of racing one with Heads and a E303, in my stang.. He smoked the POO POO out of me ! I was like WTF !

 

Apparently you have never driven a stang or camaro! They are ten times harder to launch then our front drive maxima's!!

I can see your argument with the stang, and I agree that from a roll an 02' max vs. 02' stang would be interesting. However, you saying that you beat an SS? These cars dyno at about 300hph at the tires, thats 80-90hp more than most 02's out there!! Not to mention that they have unbeleivable torque which we don't have.

 

There truly is ONE AND ONLY ONE way to determine which car is faster...

ONE experienced driver is selected and that driver does back to back runs in both cars. One will be the faster (in categories like launch, 60 foot times, elapsed time, trap speed....and then an overall 'winner' can be deduced). That takes out driver ability as a factor.

Then the whole world knows which car can beat which car.

After that, threads like this can truly focus on what people don't like to admit...that some wins are against people not really racing or not really driving.

 

2K2,

I never claimed to be superman behind the wheel of my Mustang...did you read that some place? 13.2 at 107 is due to two things...drag radials and me not being the best launcher in the world. My car, with an experienced (I only go 1-3 times a year) track driver, will run mid to high 12's and I know that...never claimed I was John Force. Somehow at the 4 autocrosses I race in a year, I am able to beat all but one Viper, All the Corvettes, All the Cobras, Some of the M3's, All the SHOs, and most of the rest of the field so I must be doing something right...but a pro drag racer I am not.

An ATX is an Automatic...Old SHOTIMES forum talk. Don't know why that worked you up so much.

As far as bad driving...until your 6 spd can go faster than my wife's Autotragic ATX or what ever you want to call it I wouldn't Sh*t on my driving...I never did on yours.

 

What are you talking about? At 60 what gear should he have been in, 2nd? BTW, I know my maxima is not faster, I have 2 mustangs and would gladly trade my max in for a 3rd if the wife would not flip.

 

Here is a whole list of stock and modified GT times 2v and 4v

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthrea...hreadid=201999

 

I was just trying to see if you woud respond back Bossho So your wife's Max ran a 14.5 what? Lets see the slips too, cause I'm calling B.S. on a 14.50 in a STOCK automatic Max.

 

I don't have it online anywhere to add a hyperlink to so I emailed it to you personally. As far as replying, I was replying to you and your last post...Nothing to do with this Mustang Vs. Maxima Post, as I said, I am done with that. Look at what the members of the same forum that this thread has the hyperlink to and read what they are saying to each other...all they do is flame each other. No way to have a successful forum...if that stuff keeps up, no one wants to ask or answer anything b/c the BS that ensues makes it not worth it.

Good luck with your Max and hopefully we'll both hit the 14.2 to 14.3 range when the temps and humidity are more accomodating.

 

There is one guy on this forum from the South that ran a 14.4 in an auto 2K2... His car must be a freak...

 

Interesting read, nice to see all the misconceptions out there.

Your average '01+ GT is going to dyno at about 230-35RWHP/280-285lb/RWTQ and run anywhere from 13.6-14.0 with a great to decent driver. The '01's run a slightly higher compression from the '99-'00's for a few extra ponies.

Here's a clip I made yesterday of a 0-60mph run on a flat road with traction control off in my 5 speed '01 GT. Accelerations begins into 9 seconds and she moves from 0-60 in 5 seconds flat. >> short vid clip.

So much for that 6.X crap. Some magazines don't want to hammer 'em down and spin the tires enough. Perhaps that's why they also got a 13.4@116 with an 11 second Cobra R.

 

I have never seen a sub 14 second 99+ GT run at the track. My friend Neal who has been to many midwest tracks has not seen a stock GT running 13's. Yes I read about these 13 second stock GTs, but I have yet to witness one. Everytime I go to RT 66 there are a plethora of 99+ Mustang GTs and it seems like they all run low-mid 14s in manual form. Since when did a Cobra R run 11s?????

 

Pardon, low-mid 12's, had to look twice.

It's mostly the 01-03's running high 13's. It's rare over on MustangWorld.com to not see one in the 13's yet.

 

And here's to the guy talking smack about the not going over 139. The new GT's with Z rated tires are governed at 148.

Here's a 94-5 5.0 >>

 

just curious..how would a stock 2k2 Maxima AUTO run against a stock 2k2 Mustang GT AUTO? would it have enough to beat it at the track? on the street? This is assuming both the drivers are equal.

 

Thats got to be modded or the speedo is off I would think. My friend had a 95 5.0 with a 3.55 gear in it and it had the wrong speedo gear, which caused it to read mph higher. The 5.0 wasnt a top end engine.

 

I looked at that vid....0-60 was about 6 seconds. You started at around 8.75 seconds and you hit 60 near 14.75.

 

6 seconds, huh? Perhaps you're hellbent on not coming to terms. Check your glasses >>

http://www.fordpower.net/forums/show...&threadid=7506

 

Im not trying to be a ****....but it was anywhere between 5.75-6. You started maybe .1 BEFORE 9 seconds....look at the needle. I stopped the tape when you hit 60 and it was right before(.1-.2) the counter hit 15 seconds.

 

Before 8? Really? No.

9.3 to about 14.6.

Bah, not much point in bickering over a couple tenths when the point is proven.

I'll leave the happy Maxima soccer moms alone now.

 

Ok from your calculations...its 5.3, which is right for a 5 speed Mustang GT.

Thanks....And Ill leave the redneck Mustang owners alone now.

 

14.5 is not unbelievable for a stock automatic. I used my G-Tech Pro and got to 60 in 6.4 seconds and a 14.99 quarter mile in my auto. I did only 1 run and I didn't really rag on the car too much... Also, the temp was in the 90's and humidity was waaaay up (I live on the coast).

 

I don't think stock Rustang can run 5.3 0-60, maybe modded one.

But I still like the look on that **** in older body 5.0 Rustang as I pulled and pulled on him. He was defintely surprized of the sound my car made And the funny thing was after I slowed down he caugth up to me and then made his rear swing out at this turn and almost lost control of the car. What an idiot.

 

Ford5litre,

2k26spd and I already squared this away and as it was already pointed out with no argument there is a stock Auto 02 running 14.4 which I hope to better come this fall with my wife's 02. Hell, even C&D was able to get an 02 6 spd down to 14.7 at a great 97 mph...that's good for them.

 

lol, Wasn't talking smack...just talking facts. You are right though, I checked, and the 02 and up GTs will run over 140...144 is the number I seem to see for a top speed...over 150 is pretty damn good for a non cobra...course many Max guys have gone over what the magazines claim a 6 Spd Max can do for a top speed so hey, if a GT can run faster than 144 now, great. I have a 160 Speedo in my 87 and I have burried it a few times, but until I GPS it, I won't kid myself that I have actually gone that fast. As a point of reference, I snow mobile and a lot of people claim their sleds will do 120 + Mph and when they are Radared or GPSed it's more like 95-105 mph.

 

Woa, 120+ mph on snow mobile

That is pretty fast, I rented it once at and it was pretty scary. Can't imaging going that fast.

 

Danny,

I haven't gone 120, I was saying that as a speed point of reference. The fastest I was clocked on a sled was 108 mph up in Canada on a road we closed off for a one mile run. It felt awesome and if I had another 3 miles to run I may have gone 110 at the most.

 

0-60 time is ALMOST the most USELESS measure of automobile performance on this planet....mag racing get's no respect around here.......

BTW - Why are you even over here on a "Maxima" forum???? Maybe your big bad mustang ego feels threatened by out 6-cylinder sedans......I don't blame you...I'd be ****ed too if I had 2 more cylinders and a little more than a liter more displacement, and they were keeping up with me....