VQ 6 Speed to a 3.0 2K1 SE?
10-04-2002, 02:28 PM
#1
VQ 6 Speed to a 3.0 2K1 SE?
Does anyone know if the new 6 speed will bolt up to a non VQ original 3.0 motor. I know that the 5 speed swap is popular, but I was wondering if anyone was considering a 6 spd swap into a 2K or 2K1.
10-04-2002, 02:51 PM
#2
Re: VQ 6 Speed to a 3.0 2K1 SE?
aRf? 
Non VQ original 3.0 motor?
You mean like a honda motor or something.. but you are talking about 2k/2k1 which are VQ's.... 
But to answer your question, I don't think it could be done...well, not without an extremely high budget.. might as well get a 350Z lol!
Non VQ original 3.0 motor?
You mean like a honda motor or something.. but you are talking about 2k/2k1 which are VQ's.... But to answer your question, I don't think it could be done...well, not without an extremely high budget.. might as well get a 350Z lol!
Originally posted by d_warner
Does anyone know if the new 6 speed will bolt up to a non VQ original 3.0 motor. I know that the 5 speed swap is popular, but I was wondering if anyone was considering a 6 spd swap into a 2K or 2K1.
Does anyone know if the new 6 speed will bolt up to a non VQ original 3.0 motor. I know that the 5 speed swap is popular, but I was wondering if anyone was considering a 6 spd swap into a 2K or 2K1.
10-04-2002, 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by Wasim521
Can't be done...I think the new one is this drive by wire system where the 2k-2k1 used something different.
Can't be done...I think the new one is this drive by wire system where the 2k-2k1 used something different.
Cool thanks. I also PMed Y2KevSE. He'll definately know.
10-04-2002, 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by d_warner
No. The 2K and 2K1's had the 3.0 VE motor. Not the 3.5 VQ. The VE's had the 5 speeds and the VQ's had the 6 speeds. Its the same reason you cant just throw a Stillen SC on a 2K2 or 2K3. They dont fit the VQ motors.
No. The 2K and 2K1's had the 3.0 VE motor. Not the 3.5 VQ. The VE's had the 5 speeds and the VQ's had the 6 speeds. Its the same reason you cant just throw a Stillen SC on a 2K2 or 2K3. They dont fit the VQ motors.
10-04-2002, 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by d_warner
No. The 2K and 2K1's had the 3.0 VE motor. Not the 3.5 VQ. The VE's had the 5 speeds and the VQ's had the 6 speeds. Its the same reason you cant just throw a Stillen SC on a 2K2 or 2K3. They dont fit the VQ motors.
No. The 2K and 2K1's had the 3.0 VE motor. Not the 3.5 VQ. The VE's had the 5 speeds and the VQ's had the 6 speeds. Its the same reason you cant just throw a Stillen SC on a 2K2 or 2K3. They dont fit the VQ motors.
the vq35 has the 6 speed optional, all other maximas have optional 5 speed....
and i believe someone said it would be possible to swap it, but would involve much mroe than a standard tranny swap because of massive computer mods....
10-04-2002, 03:21 PM
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Let's try this again.
The 2k's and 2k1's are VQ's. The six speeds were just an added feature to the 2k2's that they added when introducing the 3.5 into the maxima... no particular REASON why the 3.5's have a 6 speed.. as much reason as for which they added the HID's and the in dash changer for that reason... Blower fitment matters, in simple terms, are due to engine design (guess you're sorta right there); different motor/layout = different measurements out and about = different parts = different kit... nobody's really tried to make a blower kit for the 2k2+ anyways...some say the extra volume the 3.5 VQ maintains in the existing 5th gen engine bay just blurts out the possibility of squeezing any centrifugal system in (unless you wanna hacksaw into your fender or something... that would make a heck of an intake lol). I personally would suggest that someone with a 2k2/2k3 look at the ZZP paxton blower kit for the Grand Prix GT : it's one way they could get it to work; stick the blower where the airbox would be on the driver's side of the engine bay, and drive it by mounting a pulley on the existing drive belt which extends to the blower via a shaft that goes accross your engine bay... but then again I don't do aftermarket designs so who would listen to what little me has to say
SOOOOooooooooo..... You are wrong, I am right.
Sorry....
.... but you can still have a sticker!
The 2k's and 2k1's are VQ's. The six speeds were just an added feature to the 2k2's that they added when introducing the 3.5 into the maxima... no particular REASON why the 3.5's have a 6 speed.. as much reason as for which they added the HID's and the in dash changer for that reason... Blower fitment matters, in simple terms, are due to engine design (guess you're sorta right there); different motor/layout = different measurements out and about = different parts = different kit... nobody's really tried to make a blower kit for the 2k2+ anyways...some say the extra volume the 3.5 VQ maintains in the existing 5th gen engine bay just blurts out the possibility of squeezing any centrifugal system in (unless you wanna hacksaw into your fender or something... that would make a heck of an intake lol). I personally would suggest that someone with a 2k2/2k3 look at the ZZP paxton blower kit for the Grand Prix GT : it's one way they could get it to work; stick the blower where the airbox would be on the driver's side of the engine bay, and drive it by mounting a pulley on the existing drive belt which extends to the blower via a shaft that goes accross your engine bay... but then again I don't do aftermarket designs so who would listen to what little me has to say
SOOOOooooooooo..... You are wrong, I am right.
Sorry....
.... but you can still have a sticker!
Originally posted by d_warner
No. The 2K and 2K1's had the 3.0 VE motor. Not the 3.5 VQ. The VE's had the 5 speeds and the VQ's had the 6 speeds. Its the same reason you cant just throw a Stillen SC on a 2K2 or 2K3. They dont fit the VQ motors.
No. The 2K and 2K1's had the 3.0 VE motor. Not the 3.5 VQ. The VE's had the 5 speeds and the VQ's had the 6 speeds. Its the same reason you cant just throw a Stillen SC on a 2K2 or 2K3. They dont fit the VQ motors.
10-04-2002, 03:23 PM
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I Second that....
Originally posted by Ironlord
umm, hate to burst your bubble, but the VE is from the 3rd gens. everything from 95 to current has the vq. 95-99 is vq30de, 2k-2k1 is vq30de-k, and 2k2+ is vq35de....
the vq35 has the 6 speed optional, all other maximas have optional 5 speed....
and i believe someone said it would be possible to swap it, but would involve much mroe than a standard tranny swap because of massive computer mods....
umm, hate to burst your bubble, but the VE is from the 3rd gens. everything from 95 to current has the vq. 95-99 is vq30de, 2k-2k1 is vq30de-k, and 2k2+ is vq35de....
the vq35 has the 6 speed optional, all other maximas have optional 5 speed....
and i believe someone said it would be possible to swap it, but would involve much mroe than a standard tranny swap because of massive computer mods....
10-04-2002, 03:26 PM
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Ok, I'll go ahead and ask what EVERYONE else is thinking. How can you have been around long enough to have a Maxima Enthusiast title, and post this?
You're just joking, right?
You're just joking, right?
Originally posted by d_warner
No. The 2K and 2K1's had the 3.0 VE motor. Not the 3.5 VQ. The VE's had the 5 speeds and the VQ's had the 6 speeds. Its the same reason you cant just throw a Stillen SC on a 2K2 or 2K3. They dont fit the VQ motors.
No. The 2K and 2K1's had the 3.0 VE motor. Not the 3.5 VQ. The VE's had the 5 speeds and the VQ's had the 6 speeds. Its the same reason you cant just throw a Stillen SC on a 2K2 or 2K3. They dont fit the VQ motors.
10-04-2002, 05:24 PM
#11
99% Correct!
It's the VQ35 SEs that have the available 6 speed only, not GXE, nor GLE.
2K2GXEs and GLE are all auto only.
2K1 and below GXEs had available 5 speeds.
Basically, the SE always had, and still has, the choice of tranny.
Just adding my 2 cents
DW
It's the VQ35 SEs that have the available 6 speed only, not GXE, nor GLE.
2K2GXEs and GLE are all auto only.
2K1 and below GXEs had available 5 speeds.
Basically, the SE always had, and still has, the choice of tranny.
Just adding my 2 cents
DW
Originally posted by Ironlord
umm, hate to burst your bubble, but the VE is from the 3rd gens. everything from 95 to current has the vq. 95-99 is vq30de, 2k-2k1 is vq30de-k, and 2k2+ is vq35de....
the vq35 has the 6 speed optional, all other maximas have optional 5 speed....
and i believe someone said it would be possible to swap it, but would involve much mroe than a standard tranny swap because of massive computer mods....
umm, hate to burst your bubble, but the VE is from the 3rd gens. everything from 95 to current has the vq. 95-99 is vq30de, 2k-2k1 is vq30de-k, and 2k2+ is vq35de....
the vq35 has the 6 speed optional, all other maximas have optional 5 speed....
and i believe someone said it would be possible to swap it, but would involve much mroe than a standard tranny swap because of massive computer mods....
10-04-2002, 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by Ironlord
and i believe someone said it would be possible to swap it, but would involve much mroe than a standard tranny swap because of massive computer mods....
and i believe someone said it would be possible to swap it, but would involve much mroe than a standard tranny swap because of massive computer mods....
IM 90% sure the 6 speed will bolt directly upto the VQ30DE and it should have nothing at all to do with the ECU. So long as the speed sensor has the same plug on it things will be easy on that side. The motor mounts may be the biggest challenge. If the input shaft has a different spline on it you may have to get a custom clutch disc as well.
10-05-2002, 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by Ironlord
umm, hate to burst your bubble, but the VE is from the 3rd gens. everything from 95 to current has the vq. 95-99 is vq30de, 2k-2k1 is vq30de-k, and 2k2+ is vq35de....
the vq35 has the 6 speed optional, all other maximas have optional 5 speed....
and i believe someone said it would be possible to swap it, but would involve much mroe than a standard tranny swap because of massive computer mods....
umm, hate to burst your bubble, but the VE is from the 3rd gens. everything from 95 to current has the vq. 95-99 is vq30de, 2k-2k1 is vq30de-k, and 2k2+ is vq35de....
the vq35 has the 6 speed optional, all other maximas have optional 5 speed....
and i believe someone said it would be possible to swap it, but would involve much mroe than a standard tranny swap because of massive computer mods....
10-05-2002, 05:39 PM
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OK. So I made a mistake. VQ30DE then. Whatever. Y2KevSE says that the bellhousings are different though and probably wouldn't bolt up. Oh well. Sorry for the VQ30DE mistake. I never claimed to be perfect or the master of knowledge in the Maxima world. Just a regular guy trying to soak up knowledge. Not soaking very fast though!
10-05-2002, 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by d_warner
OK. So I made a mistake. VQ30DE then. Whatever. Y2KevSE says that the bellhousings are different though and probably wouldn't bolt up. Oh well. Sorry for the VQ30DE mistake. I never claimed to be perfect or the master of knowledge in the Maxima world. Just a regular guy trying to soak up knowledge. Not soaking very fast though!
OK. So I made a mistake. VQ30DE then. Whatever. Y2KevSE says that the bellhousings are different though and probably wouldn't bolt up. Oh well. Sorry for the VQ30DE mistake. I never claimed to be perfect or the master of knowledge in the Maxima world. Just a regular guy trying to soak up knowledge. Not soaking very fast though!
10-07-2002, 06:41 AM
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Originally posted by Wasim521
Can't be done...I think the new one is this drive by wire system where the 2k-2k1 used something different.
Can't be done...I think the new one is this drive by wire system where the 2k-2k1 used something different.
10-07-2002, 12:24 PM
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So you're saying that the drive by wire system hooks into the tranny, too, somehow? I thought that drive by wire is only on the motor, a funky new age throttle body.
DW
I thought that drive by wire is only on the motor, a funky new age throttle body.DW
Originally posted by Wasim521
Can't be done...I think the new one is this drive by wire system where the 2k-2k1 used something different.
Can't be done...I think the new one is this drive by wire system where the 2k-2k1 used something different.
10-07-2002, 12:55 PM
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I guess I'll add my three cents too.
Drive by wire is done electronically. basically potentiometers. 2k-2k1s use a cable so it's mechanical. Drive by wire my work better because it's more precise, no cable stretch. But cable systems may also work better because it's mechanical. Anyways, the 6 speed tranny also does not use the mechanical shift linkage on the 2k-2k1 5spds. The 6 speed uses a cable type of shifter, so it wouldn't work unless you do some major modification to mount everything. Again, one of those mods if you have the time, money and knowledge, then do it if you want, or just get a new car. That's what I think.
Drive by wire is done electronically. basically potentiometers. 2k-2k1s use a cable so it's mechanical. Drive by wire my work better because it's more precise, no cable stretch. But cable systems may also work better because it's mechanical. Anyways, the 6 speed tranny also does not use the mechanical shift linkage on the 2k-2k1 5spds. The 6 speed uses a cable type of shifter, so it wouldn't work unless you do some major modification to mount everything. Again, one of those mods if you have the time, money and knowledge, then do it if you want, or just get a new car. That's what I think.
10-07-2002, 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by d_warner
OK. So I made a mistake. VQ30DE then. Whatever. Y2KevSE says that the bellhousings are different though and probably wouldn't bolt up. Oh well. Sorry for the VQ30DE mistake. I never claimed to be perfect or the master of knowledge in the Maxima world. Just a regular guy trying to soak up knowledge. Not soaking very fast though!
OK. So I made a mistake. VQ30DE then. Whatever. Y2KevSE says that the bellhousings are different though and probably wouldn't bolt up. Oh well. Sorry for the VQ30DE mistake. I never claimed to be perfect or the master of knowledge in the Maxima world. Just a regular guy trying to soak up knowledge. Not soaking very fast though!
- get around the drive-by wire vs. linkage setup
- make sure all the sensors (speed sensor and park neutral position switch) are compatible
- use the 2k2 clutch(?)
- look into the 2k2 vs. 2k-2k1 clutch pressure plate and see what the differences are
10-08-2002, 02:38 PM
#23
Hey Kev, new project.. I'm coming down and we're converting my 4 speed '00 auto to a 6 speed HLSD. Not leaving until my car can run full boost under 6 speed influence 
Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Woah, you asked me about VE30DE not VQ30DE. If you're talking about VQ30DE, I'm with SR20DEN. It will fit and work if you can
- get around the drive-by wire vs. linkage setup
- make sure all the sensors (speed sensor and park neutral position switch) are compatible
- use the 2k2 clutch(?)
- look into the 2k2 vs. 2k-2k1 clutch pressure plate and see what the differences are
Woah, you asked me about VE30DE not VQ30DE. If you're talking about VQ30DE, I'm with SR20DEN. It will fit and work if you can
- get around the drive-by wire vs. linkage setup
- make sure all the sensors (speed sensor and park neutral position switch) are compatible
- use the 2k2 clutch(?)
- look into the 2k2 vs. 2k-2k1 clutch pressure plate and see what the differences are
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