Hate on Honda
#1
Hate on Honda
Im trying to figure out what it is about that new Accord that everyone on this board hates. Right now I have a loaded black on black '01 AE and love it!! However, I had an Accord (94 coupe) before my Max and I loved that as well. But after seeing that new Accord coupe commercial, how can you think that car is not TIGHT!?!?!? 240-hp 6-speed with NAVI for under $30,000!!!! That's a steal and with Honda's reliablity, I just can't understand how people can bash that car.
And on a side note...who makes better 4-cylinders than Honda??
Just bored at work...
One...Jas
And on a side note...who makes better 4-cylinders than Honda??
Just bored at work...
One...Jas
#2
Well
personally I think the styling is awful.
The gauges are boring and situated weird. Big huge speedo and smaller guages around.
And 240 HP...eh...big deal. Until they start matching some FtLb/Tq with it, its just a whiney honda.
The gauges are boring and situated weird. Big huge speedo and smaller guages around.
And 240 HP...eh...big deal. Until they start matching some FtLb/Tq with it, its just a whiney honda.
#3
I dont like the look....that's it. otherwise, the new accord is a steal.....like Maxima.
few things about this forum :
1.it's ok to have a fast car, but if that fast car beats Maxima, then it's not ok
2.?
3.?
4.?
5.?
that 1.8T Jetta thread could've become a good discussion....but some just cant accept "A Maxima" was beaten in that race.
few things about this forum :
1.it's ok to have a fast car, but if that fast car beats Maxima, then it's not ok
2.?
3.?
4.?
5.?
that 1.8T Jetta thread could've become a good discussion....but some just cant accept "A Maxima" was beaten in that race.
#4
I remember my '94 Accord and I sigh...I miss my baby but I gots a new one now and everyday I fall in love more and more. I personally LIKE the new Accord, 240 horsies isn't bad even though it's only at high RPM, it's still 240 horsies. So they'll suck at take-off/mid-range but at high-way speeds it might actually get interesting. Just my .02
#5
Re: Hate on Honda
Originally posted by Liberation
Im trying to figure out what it is about that new Accord that everyone on this board hates. Right now I have a loaded black on black '01 AE and love it!! However, I had an Accord (94 coupe) before my Max and I loved that as well. But after seeing that new Accord coupe commercial, how can you think that car is not TIGHT!?!?!? 240-hp 6-speed with NAVI for under $30,000!!!! That's a steal and with Honda's reliablity, I just can't understand how people can bash that car.
And on a side note...who makes better 4-cylinders than Honda??
Just bored at work...
One...Jas
Im trying to figure out what it is about that new Accord that everyone on this board hates. Right now I have a loaded black on black '01 AE and love it!! However, I had an Accord (94 coupe) before my Max and I loved that as well. But after seeing that new Accord coupe commercial, how can you think that car is not TIGHT!?!?!? 240-hp 6-speed with NAVI for under $30,000!!!! That's a steal and with Honda's reliablity, I just can't understand how people can bash that car.
And on a side note...who makes better 4-cylinders than Honda??
Just bored at work...
One...Jas
two words:
BUTT UGLY
#6
Originally posted by [maxi-overdose]
I dont like the look....that's it. otherwise, the new accord is a steal.....like Maxima.
few things about this forum :
1.it's ok to have a fast car, but if that fast car beats Maxima, then it's not ok
2.?
3.?
4.?
5.?
that 1.8T Jetta thread could've become a good discussion....but some just cant accept "A Maxima" was beaten in that race.
I dont like the look....that's it. otherwise, the new accord is a steal.....like Maxima.
few things about this forum :
1.it's ok to have a fast car, but if that fast car beats Maxima, then it's not ok
2.?
3.?
4.?
5.?
that 1.8T Jetta thread could've become a good discussion....but some just cant accept "A Maxima" was beaten in that race.
The new Accord is sweet, it's just ugly as hell. Put that 240hp 6-speed in the older coupe with the NSX tailights, and it would be awesome.
#7
Originally posted by [maxi-overdose]
I dont like the look....that's it. otherwise, the new accord is a steal.....like Maxima.
few things about this forum :
1.it's ok to have a fast car, but if that fast car beats Maxima, then it's not ok
2.?
3.?
4.?
5.?
that 1.8T Jetta thread could've become a good discussion....but some just cant accept "A Maxima" was beaten in that race.
I dont like the look....that's it. otherwise, the new accord is a steal.....like Maxima.
few things about this forum :
1.it's ok to have a fast car, but if that fast car beats Maxima, then it's not ok
2.?
3.?
4.?
5.?
that 1.8T Jetta thread could've become a good discussion....but some just cant accept "A Maxima" was beaten in that race.
My beef was not that he won...was that the facts of what was under the hood kept changing.
#12
Ehhh, it's ok
I agree with the Car and Driver review that said, about the styling, something along the lines of it being bland on the inside. I like the side shot (looks A LOT like the Alty) and the front may grow on me. It's that rear that I cannot get over. Car and Driver compared the rear styling to a Buick and I agree. Then again, the Buick market may be a large % of the buyers. Some people don't like the rears on the max; I don't like the rear on the new accord. To each his own. As for the engine....well...I'd like to take on for a spin
#13
Originally posted by jjs
Ford Focus front end, rip-off Mercedes taillights, generic bubble car profile...
and those are the 'good' points...
Ford Focus front end, rip-off Mercedes taillights, generic bubble car profile...
and those are the 'good' points...
#14
Originally posted by J30A1
I like the Mercedes Rip off taillights! They look great! There is no bubble profile. I own the car and it has no evidence of this. Ford Focus front end?? Not even close! It looks more like the Altima in the front and that car doesn't even look like the Accord Coupe. The Sedan is not bad but the Rear End just doesn't do anything for me but IMO I think the coupe looks great.
I like the Mercedes Rip off taillights! They look great! There is no bubble profile. I own the car and it has no evidence of this. Ford Focus front end?? Not even close! It looks more like the Altima in the front and that car doesn't even look like the Accord Coupe. The Sedan is not bad but the Rear End just doesn't do anything for me but IMO I think the coupe looks great.
#15
Originally posted by J30A1
I like the Mercedes Rip off taillights! They look great! There is no bubble profile. I own the car and it has no evidence of this. Ford Focus front end?? Not even close! It looks more like the Altima in the front and that car doesn't even look like the Accord Coupe. The Sedan is not bad but the Rear End just doesn't do anything for me but IMO I think the coupe looks great.
I like the Mercedes Rip off taillights! They look great! There is no bubble profile. I own the car and it has no evidence of this. Ford Focus front end?? Not even close! It looks more like the Altima in the front and that car doesn't even look like the Accord Coupe. The Sedan is not bad but the Rear End just doesn't do anything for me but IMO I think the coupe looks great.
On the other hand, no way a Nissan owner is going to convince a Honda owner that the Nissan looks/is/performs/ blah blah blah better on a Honda page.
#17
Originally posted by J30A1
I think the Coupe looks great! It is the sedan that I am not so fond of.
I think the Coupe looks great! It is the sedan that I am not so fond of.
I see that you have your new coupe on the way...how does that thing feel on the road?? Compared to the previous V6 you had.
One...Jas
#18
Re: Hate on Honda
Originally posted by Liberation
Im trying to figure out what it is about that new Accord that everyone on this board hates. Right now I have a loaded black on black '01 AE and love it!! However, I had an Accord (94 coupe) before my Max and I loved that as well. But after seeing that new Accord coupe commercial, how can you think that car is not TIGHT!?!?!? 240-hp 6-speed with NAVI for under $30,000!!!! That's a steal and with Honda's reliablity, I just can't understand how people can bash that car.
And on a side note...who makes better 4-cylinders than Honda??
Just bored at work...
One...Jas
Im trying to figure out what it is about that new Accord that everyone on this board hates. Right now I have a loaded black on black '01 AE and love it!! However, I had an Accord (94 coupe) before my Max and I loved that as well. But after seeing that new Accord coupe commercial, how can you think that car is not TIGHT!?!?!? 240-hp 6-speed with NAVI for under $30,000!!!! That's a steal and with Honda's reliablity, I just can't understand how people can bash that car.
And on a side note...who makes better 4-cylinders than Honda??
Just bored at work...
One...Jas
Because this is a Maxima site...
#20
I have the same exact problem in the new Accord as I do with the 5th Gen Maxima. Not enough room for my huge azz legs between the steering wheel and the center radio/HVAC stack! Yet another car I can't consider all because I can't fit in it!!!
I have plenty of room in the Altima (telescoping wheel) and my 4th Gen.
I sat in the new Accord V6 a few weeks back. Overall it's pretty nice, but it's just boring. It just didn't excite me or get me pumped up at all. Plus it's a heavy car (3360lb), has no torque (only 212), and the only time it'll be reasonably fast is in the last 1/3rd of the rev range with your foot flat on the floor (translation: highway dragging).
So the only place the new AV6 will be quicker than my car is on the highway when the revs are saturated above 5500rpm. Umm...yeah.
I'll be sticking with my 4th Gen
I have plenty of room in the Altima (telescoping wheel) and my 4th Gen.
I sat in the new Accord V6 a few weeks back. Overall it's pretty nice, but it's just boring. It just didn't excite me or get me pumped up at all. Plus it's a heavy car (3360lb), has no torque (only 212), and the only time it'll be reasonably fast is in the last 1/3rd of the rev range with your foot flat on the floor (translation: highway dragging).
So the only place the new AV6 will be quicker than my car is on the highway when the revs are saturated above 5500rpm. Umm...yeah.
I'll be sticking with my 4th Gen
#22
Originally posted by SteVTEC
I have the same exact problem in the new Accord as I do with the 5th Gen Maxima. Not enough room for my huge azz legs between the steering wheel and the center radio/HVAC stack! Yet another car I can't consider all because I can't fit in it!!!
I have the same exact problem in the new Accord as I do with the 5th Gen Maxima. Not enough room for my huge azz legs between the steering wheel and the center radio/HVAC stack! Yet another car I can't consider all because I can't fit in it!!!
#23
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I had 2k Accord Coupe. To be honest I don't see what all of the Honda hype is about. It rattled like hell and I had more than my fair share of dealer trips. I have had much better success with the Maxima. I'm gonna get flamed for this, but only Lemmings drive Honda's. They follow the line to jump off the cliff and into the seat. No one know's why they do it, they just do. I once was a Lemming thinking that the grass was greener over there, it wasn't. It was all spray painted green.
I'll stop rambling now....
I'll stop rambling now....
#24
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I sat in the new Accord V6 a few weeks back. Overall it's pretty nice, but it's just boring. It just didn't excite me or get me pumped up at all. Plus it's a heavy car (3360lb), has no torque (only 212), and the only time it'll be reasonably fast is in the last 1/3rd of the rev range with your foot flat on the floor (translation: highway dragging).
So the only place the new AV6 will be quicker than my car is on the highway when the revs are saturated above 5500rpm. Umm...yeah.
I'll be sticking with my 4th Gen [/B]
I sat in the new Accord V6 a few weeks back. Overall it's pretty nice, but it's just boring. It just didn't excite me or get me pumped up at all. Plus it's a heavy car (3360lb), has no torque (only 212), and the only time it'll be reasonably fast is in the last 1/3rd of the rev range with your foot flat on the floor (translation: highway dragging).
So the only place the new AV6 will be quicker than my car is on the highway when the revs are saturated above 5500rpm. Umm...yeah.
I'll be sticking with my 4th Gen [/B]
honda guy/girl: the 03 av6 will have hp advantage at 5500 rpm.....so we have more hp overall........
me: yep, you're absolutely correct......remind me again of that when you try to catch up to me
#25
I think maybe no-one likes it because the car looks like a Ford Focus (and hey, if you want a Focus, buy one...). Also, we've owned two Honda Accords, and '89 and a '90, both of which were pretty troublesome (mostly the '90, which ate it's transmission TWICE). But the '89, while an okay car, trashed its A/C, CV joints (regularly), and did a couple other random things.
#27
Many people have been dissing quality of both Nissan and Honda lately. It's important to point out that having good reliability numbers doesn't mean you will never have a problem with one or that you will never have a problem car. It just means that your chances of having problems are much smaller than if you had purchased a car from a less reliable manufacturer. I hear a lot of people like "I had mad problems, never buying again." Or, "I never had a problem, so I don't understand why people make all these acronyms for Ford?" It's all just statistics. In the end, it's just luck.
#28
Re: Hate on Honda
Originally posted by Liberation
240-hp 6-speed with NAVI for under $30,000!!!!
And on a side note...who makes better 4-cylinders than Honda??
240-hp 6-speed with NAVI for under $30,000!!!!
And on a side note...who makes better 4-cylinders than Honda??
Toyota makes better 4-cyl. VVT-i is a lot better than VTEC. VTEC is the most over-rated engine to date.
#32
Honda Love....
I've owned a couple of Accords, a 92 and a 94, both EX models and both with 5 speeds. I liked them both very much and they were both solid cars. They were quite peppy with the manual transmission, but they did lack a cetain amount of excitement. The pep actually surprised me as I went from an 86 Mustang LX 5.0/5 speed to the 92 Accord.
When I bought my 97 Max, that car was fun to drive and had a flair that the Accords didn't.
As far as the new Accords, my wife and I were considering the 03 Accord as she was getting rid of her 96 Accord and had an 91 Accord (and Honda loyalty) before that. We test drove an 02 and she was very disappointed by it. I already was disappointed back in 97 when I test drove an EX V-6 to replace my 94 Accord. The lack of excitement and soft ride in addition to the dealer thinking $100 off sticker on the then new body was good deal led me to a Maxima. My dad actually suggested it as he owned a 90 Max and now a 95 Max.
I think the new coupe is decent enough looking although in person it reminds me very much of a larger RSX with a Civic nose. I didn't really like the stodgy styling on the four door at all. I'm glad we opted for the 02 Max!
When I bought my 97 Max, that car was fun to drive and had a flair that the Accords didn't.
As far as the new Accords, my wife and I were considering the 03 Accord as she was getting rid of her 96 Accord and had an 91 Accord (and Honda loyalty) before that. We test drove an 02 and she was very disappointed by it. I already was disappointed back in 97 when I test drove an EX V-6 to replace my 94 Accord. The lack of excitement and soft ride in addition to the dealer thinking $100 off sticker on the then new body was good deal led me to a Maxima. My dad actually suggested it as he owned a 90 Max and now a 95 Max.
I think the new coupe is decent enough looking although in person it reminds me very much of a larger RSX with a Civic nose. I didn't really like the stodgy styling on the four door at all. I'm glad we opted for the 02 Max!
#34
No Honda hating here!!
Though I have a 2K2 Max and Y2K Quest SE, I would have been happy to take a J32A2 powered Accord and an Odyssey EX instead. Of course Honda never dropped the J32 into the 6th gen Accord and the Ody goes for MUCH more than sticker.
The new Accord sedan is sharper looking than the 6G Accord, though still conservative. The coupe looks to be slammin': 6sp tranny w/a 240hp J30 motor, drop it 2", plus 1 the tire/wheel package, upgrade the suspension and if the budget allows, bolt on a supercharger kit. Loads of potential here.
Anyway, Honda/Acura has always been my first choice but I always seem to get a much better deal with Nissan. If the 5G Max didnt upgrade to the VQ35DE, I would have gotten the 7G Accord instead.
Peace.
The new Accord sedan is sharper looking than the 6G Accord, though still conservative. The coupe looks to be slammin': 6sp tranny w/a 240hp J30 motor, drop it 2", plus 1 the tire/wheel package, upgrade the suspension and if the budget allows, bolt on a supercharger kit. Loads of potential here.
Anyway, Honda/Acura has always been my first choice but I always seem to get a much better deal with Nissan. If the 5G Max didnt upgrade to the VQ35DE, I would have gotten the 7G Accord instead.
Peace.
#35
Re: Re: Hate on Honda
Originally posted by jjs
two words:
BUTT UGLY
two words:
BUTT UGLY
Considering Honda is selling Accord over 400,000 a year it'll be everywhere and people no longer complain.
#36
Re: Re: Re: Hate on Honda
Originally posted by dlee27
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It reminds me when 5th Gen Maxima first came out. Almost everybody said like this. At first, I didn't like it either but it grew on me.
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It reminds me when 5th Gen Maxima first came out. Almost everybody said like this. At first, I didn't like it either but it grew on me.
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