We all agree that 2k2 2k1 brakes suck as*...I bought my car used and it has 37k on it. I feel a *slight* pulsation decelerating from highway speeds. Soon it will be time to turn or replace. If I need to replace I will get bigger fronts.

It is my understanding that 2k2's have bigger front rotors..is this true, and will they fit on my 2k?

 

it's not worth upgrading to a 2k2 brake set up.. i test drove that car for 3 days (rented) and it's garbage.. the pedal travel is real short making ppl "think" it performs alot better but it doesn't. you can consider the 300zx brake conversion.. my brakes are going to be up for sale real soon.

 

I think your problem sounds like warped rotors... there is a TSB out there for this check with your Nissan dealer they should replace them

 

I'm 1k out of warranty on my brakes. Plus I have a friend who has a 2k under 36k and has brake judder. He went to the Dealership, mentions the TSB and the service guys say..."It sounds like you just need a brake job, and that it would not be covered."

My guess is, is that Nissan realized the OEM rotors on the 2k-2k1 were too small. They would work fine for light-duty stops, but as soon as you asked them STOP NOW! they would warp. That is the reason they put bigger rotors on the newer models.

Mingo, if you're letting go of you 2k2 rotors let me know.. I might be interested.

What I really want is a Big Brake Kit with 4 piston calipers, but Im not sure if they will fit under 17 OEM rims.

(if not then I will have to buy bigger rims and tires, I know) Mods are a viscious circle!

 

the Nissan dealer is trying to jack your friend... juddering brakes isnt... a brake job like bleed and fill system change pads... its the rotors and Nissan knows the messed up on them

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=161835

mingo is selling his 3Z brake upgrade- look into it, you will need new rims though

 

i don't have a 2k2.. i have a 2k max.. i rented a 2k2 for 3 days. and i threw away my 2k rotors a long time agao because they warped twice

 

Go buy some new pads. I am almost 99.99999% postive that its the OEM pads that cause the rotors to warp. Buy a set of Performance Friction pads from autozone and turn your rotors.

 

this is what i'm selling

 

How wide does the rims need to be for this? x7.5, x8, x8.5?
jltk

dmbmaxima2k2-aka... the frankencar guy, just put back on his stock 2k2 rims with his big brake kit.

thanks in advance.

 

stock wheels can clear the z brakes with spacers, however i wouldn't recomend it. i'm not a huge fan of wheel spacers. you can try getting a different wheel with a different offset. my wheels are 18X8 with the offset of 38mm and i'm running 245/40 yr 18 tires.. the tires clear with no rubbing. my car is also lowered with maxspeed springs.

 

alright, here's the deal. I just spent $900 on rubber for stock rims(ps a/s). If I went with a rim size like 17x8 with 38 offset.

1) will my 225/50-17's fit a 17x8 rim and,

2) do you think this rim(17x8 ET38) will clear the 300z calipers.

I ask this because, i'd hate the idea of buying new rubber after waiting almost a month to get the pilots.

If anyone could share their wisdow on this i would greatly appreicate it.

thanks.

 

post a pic of the rim you bought- it also depends alot on the spoke designs... I have a 8.5 inch rim 42mm offset that I have to run 10mm spacers just to BARELY clear the big brakes, yet my everyday 8.0 wide rims 35mm offset clear wit plenty of room to spare

look for a rim wit no lip, no curvy funky spokes... you probably will clear

otherwise look into a set of H&R Spacers

 

it's hard to say whether your rims would clear. but i think it should be safe to assumet hat with teh 38mm offset it should work. if possible test fit the rim on someones car with the Z brakes..

 

let me try to clarify. I'd like to upgrade to a big brake/300z kit but understand that a deeper/larger rim is/maybe required. dmbmaxima2k2 aka-frankencar.com posted awhile back that he put his two front stock 2k2 rims back on and the clearence was fine. he did not mention if the back ones worked out. I will pm or email him to see how it's going.

my thing is that after buying the pilot's(225/50-17's) for the stock'ers, i'm not ready to go tire shopping again. the idea was to buy a deeper rim(that the pilot's will fit)to allow for the brake kit. this will be a spring project if done at all, so trying to gather info now.

two example of rims for now.

2nd one down R58

4th one down SR300

if there is not a clearence problem with stock 17x7's then the wilwood kit that dmbmaxima2k2 is selling maybe the way i go.

and thanks - carnal_c30 & mingo for your input.

my re-Search continues.....

 

hrm.. the backs wouldn't matter because the brake conversion is only for the fronts. there's currently no rear brake upgrades asides from direct replacement rotors and pads for the rear. if dmb was able to fit the stock rims on with the z-brake conversion then that's cool, but kevin wasn't able to fit is stock 17" rims on when he first did the brake swap that's why he had to roll on the tantrums for a while.. i on the otherhand already had 18" rims on prior to the brake upgrade so i dind't have any fitment issues. after searching on tireracks page for the spec of the tires. it seems like you can put that tire you bought onto a rim with the width ranging from 6~8" wide. i could be reading it wrong tho
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.j...ot+Sport+A%2FS

 

the wilwood kit might not have a difference in offset than the stock brakes making it possible to put on stock 17's however, the Z brakes do change the offset a little. i personally like the 300zx over the wilwoods because of the construction. the wilwood pistons are alot thinner and "look" like they are more prone to warpage after prolonged usage. however i've also heard of good things about those brakes. and the body construction of the caliper on the wilwoods doesn't seem as rigid campared to that of the 300zx, ap nor brembo. but either way i'm sure it's still a significant gain over stock. i'm' not sure what thickness the rotor is on the wilwood big brake kit, but i can tell you that the rotors on the 300zx that matthel, kevin and i have been using is plenty thick. then again, kevin moved up to the brembo big brakes, matthel, moved up to the 3000gt rotor conversion, and i'm planning to move out to the AP big brake kit. i dont' really have any gripes about the 300zx brakes, it's just that it looks small, and also now that themz two have big brakes i kinda want one too plus, i get freaked out by the way ppl here in LA drive.

 

mingo, dmbmaxima2k2 has the wilwood big brake kit from www.precisionbrakes.com/maxima.html not the 300z kit.

I think he's going to try to offer them(wilwood's) through his company.

I agree with you, i like the look of the 300z kit plus don't think i want to try to keep up with you cali guy's $$$. Mid-West driven suits me fine. except Chi-town and the occasional trip east to DC and NYC, then i just drive like the locals do fast and hard.

thanks again for all your help.

 

no problem at all.. originally i was contemplating on coming up with a wilwood big brake kit using a thicker rotor compared to what brian at fastbrakes used. then after more research, i came across the stoptech brakes, i just might work something out with that company instead of straight buying a kit from stillen. asides from stoptech's 2 peice rotor, their calipers are essentually brembo replicas.

 

hey dude Stoptech is kinda tough to deal with, they want you to leave the car with them for 2 weeks to 2 months- not sure on the price. Dennis is trying to do it cuz hes going to Japan for awhile so they can work on it BUT he has to pick it up when its done... he cant cuz hes going to be out of the country but Stoptech will only release the car to the registered owner.. no exceptions

oh the SR300 wheels look like they would clear, the other ones are a maybe