Run in with a G35
10-29-2002, 08:32 AM
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Run in with a G35
Had some fun with a G35 last night.
West side Hwy (NYC). A grey G35 pulls up next to me at a light we both punch it and he pulls on me right away. I did a fairly good job keeping up but way to much traffic to really play. Once I hit like 60-70mph I said to myself this is stupid what are we going to prove, so I shut it down and took the lost.
So the G35 is quick but nothing to really worry about.
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West side Hwy (NYC). A grey G35 pulls up next to me at a light we both punch it and he pulls on me right away. I did a fairly good job keeping up but way to much traffic to really play. Once I hit like 60-70mph I said to myself this is stupid what are we going to prove, so I shut it down and took the lost.
So the G35 is quick but nothing to really worry about.
Nice
10-29-2002, 10:23 AM
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Re: Run in with a G35
Originally posted by nice95GLE
...I said to myself this is stupid what are we going to prove, so I shut it down and took the lost.
...I said to myself this is stupid what are we going to prove, so I shut it down and took the lost.
10-29-2002, 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by nice95GLE
Once I hit like 60-70mph I said to myself this is stupid what are we going to prove, so I shut it down and took the lost.
Once I hit like 60-70mph I said to myself this is stupid what are we going to prove, so I shut it down and took the lost.
10-29-2002, 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KSESteve
Maybe because mine is an auto, but my dads G35 pulls on me no matter what speed we are going at. From a stop I stand no chance especially if he torque brakes the car. Its just not fair.
Maybe because mine is an auto, but my dads G35 pulls on me no matter what speed we are going at. From a stop I stand no chance especially if he torque brakes the car. Its just not fair.
get a 6sp, beat him stock
they are heavy ...that's our advantage...their advantage is RWD
10-30-2002, 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by 2001SE
get an auto 2k2, put an intake and you can beat the **** outta of him
get a 6sp, beat him stock
they are heavy ...that's our advantage...their advantage is RWD
get an auto 2k2, put an intake and you can beat the **** outta of him
get a 6sp, beat him stock
they are heavy ...that's our advantage...their advantage is RWD
Maxima Curb weight 3,357 lb for the auto SE
What exactly do you mean by heavy???
10-31-2002, 12:14 AM
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Originally posted by Maximam
G35 Curb weight 3,336 lb
Maxima Curb weight 3,357 lb for the auto SE
What exactly do you mean by heavy???
G35 Curb weight 3,336 lb
Maxima Curb weight 3,357 lb for the auto SE
What exactly do you mean by heavy???
Either my brochure is wrong or the SE has gained a lot of weight for 2K3 (your # matches what Nissan's web site says right now). But yeah, I think the G35 has an edge, has a little more hp, more torque, a 5 speed auto, and it's RWD so I'd imagine it'd get more traction off the line.
10-31-2002, 12:31 AM
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My 2K2 Maxima brochure says that an auto Maxima SE has a curb weight of 3261 lbs. The GXE is only 3218.
Either my brochure is wrong or the SE has gained a lot of weight for 2K3 (your # matches what Nissan's web site says right now). But yeah, I think the G35 has an edge, has a little more hp, more torque, a 5 speed auto, and it's RWD so I'd imagine it'd get more traction off the line.
My 2K2 Maxima brochure says that an auto Maxima SE has a curb weight of 3261 lbs. The GXE is only 3218.
Either my brochure is wrong or the SE has gained a lot of weight for 2K3 (your # matches what Nissan's web site says right now). But yeah, I think the G35 has an edge, has a little more hp, more torque, a 5 speed auto, and it's RWD so I'd imagine it'd get more traction off the line.
10-31-2002, 02:08 AM
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Re: G35 Sedan is Auto only..
Originally posted by pigcold
G35 auto cannot pickup faster than Maxima 6spd. But I do worry when the G35Coupe is out on the road..
G35 auto cannot pickup faster than Maxima 6spd. But I do worry when the G35Coupe is out on the road..
10-31-2002, 04:54 AM
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I'd venture to say Tranny for tranny, the G35 will be faster.
I know I'm mag racing here, but the g35 is rated 260/260 vs. the max 255/246. Now even if the torque on the Max really is 260 like the g35, the G still has a 5sp auto vs. the 4sp auto in the max. I've seen a couple tests and the G ran 0-60 in the LOW 6 second range. Most Max auto's run 6.7-7 or so.
I know I'm mag racing here, but the g35 is rated 260/260 vs. the max 255/246. Now even if the torque on the Max really is 260 like the g35, the G still has a 5sp auto vs. the 4sp auto in the max. I've seen a couple tests and the G ran 0-60 in the LOW 6 second range. Most Max auto's run 6.7-7 or so.
10-31-2002, 12:05 PM
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Re: G35 Sedan is Auto only..
Yeah,
240+ hp at the wheels = us 6 spd guys saying "Wow, those LED tailights are really cool looking".
240+ hp at the wheels = us 6 spd guys saying "Wow, those LED tailights are really cool looking".
Originally posted by pigcold
I have no trouble with the G35 sedan.
G35 auto cannot pickup faster than Maxima 6spd. But I do worry when the G35Coupe is out on the road..
I have no trouble with the G35 sedan.
G35 auto cannot pickup faster than Maxima 6spd. But I do worry when the G35Coupe is out on the road..
10-31-2002, 12:38 PM
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On the street from a dead stop a G35 will beat a 6spd Max consistantly light to light. With RWD and auto my money is on the G35 for consistanly beating a 6spd Max on the street. Much easier to launch and easier to get better R/T times (which is 80% of light to light racing with somewhat equal cars with "average" drivers) since no clutch is involved. I see a lot of great times posted on the .org but with terrible R/T and on the street that is 80%+.
10-31-2002, 01:03 PM
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Re: Re: G35 Sedan is Auto only..
Originally posted by Eric
Yeah,
240+ hp at the wheels = us 6 spd guys saying "Wow, those LED tailights are really cool looking".
Yeah,
240+ hp at the wheels = us 6 spd guys saying "Wow, those LED tailights are really cool looking".
Didn't new Z put down only like 225hp at the wheels at Stillen?
10-31-2002, 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by Kuhmo D
On the street from a dead stop a G35 will beat a 6spd Max consistantly light to light. With RWD and auto my money is on the G35 for consistanly beating a 6spd Max on the street. Much easier to launch and easier to get better R/T times (which is 80% of light to light racing with somewhat equal cars with "average" drivers) since no clutch is involved. I see a lot of great times posted on the .org but with terrible R/T and on the street that is 80%+.
On the street from a dead stop a G35 will beat a 6spd Max consistantly light to light. With RWD and auto my money is on the G35 for consistanly beating a 6spd Max on the street. Much easier to launch and easier to get better R/T times (which is 80% of light to light racing with somewhat equal cars with "average" drivers) since no clutch is involved. I see a lot of great times posted on the .org but with terrible R/T and on the street that is 80%+.
10-31-2002, 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
Dunno about that Automobile Mag just tested the G35C 6spd to the 330ci and the G had a 0-60 of 6.0, 1/4 was 14.1 at 98 mph, those numbers are nearly identical to the 6spd MAx that C/D mag tested 2 months ago. G auto's are testing with times very similiar to Aut 2k2's and 3's. What gets me is some guy say I beat lost to G35 and beat a TLS, whereas alot of TLS's owners say the same thing. All of these cars are about equal on the starightline driver dependent.
Dunno about that Automobile Mag just tested the G35C 6spd to the 330ci and the G had a 0-60 of 6.0, 1/4 was 14.1 at 98 mph, those numbers are nearly identical to the 6spd MAx that C/D mag tested 2 months ago. G auto's are testing with times very similiar to Aut 2k2's and 3's. What gets me is some guy say I beat lost to G35 and beat a TLS, whereas alot of TLS's owners say the same thing. All of these cars are about equal on the starightline driver dependent.
10-31-2002, 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by Kuhmo D
I agree somewhat with the mag times. But for consistancy there is no question a G35 will beat a 6spd Maxima with average drivers and even above average drivers. Launching a manual maxima on the street from a dead stop is not nearly as easy as brake torquing a g35 or even just mashing the gas. At the track is one thing with lowered PSI tires and best times etc.. On the street r/t and consistancy is everything. For example I see guys posting a best time of 14.7 for a 2k2 auto with a .9xx r/t (the guy is going to be left standing and will never catch up). It is a driver's race but again the edge goes to a rwd auto with comprable power. Light to light a G35 will beat 90%+ 6spds with average drivers in my opinion on the street. Not talking about best 1/4 times.
I agree somewhat with the mag times. But for consistancy there is no question a G35 will beat a 6spd Maxima with average drivers and even above average drivers. Launching a manual maxima on the street from a dead stop is not nearly as easy as brake torquing a g35 or even just mashing the gas. At the track is one thing with lowered PSI tires and best times etc.. On the street r/t and consistancy is everything. For example I see guys posting a best time of 14.7 for a 2k2 auto with a .9xx r/t (the guy is going to be left standing and will never catch up). It is a driver's race but again the edge goes to a rwd auto with comprable power. Light to light a G35 will beat 90%+ 6spds with average drivers in my opinion on the street. Not talking about best 1/4 times.
I don't understand why you saying that G35 will beat 6-speed so easily.
10-31-2002, 01:48 PM
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RE:With RWD and auto my money is on the G35 for consistanly beating a 6spd Max on the street.
I would think by now we would stop saying "well it is a RWD car". Yes RWD car are known for there better handling but it all comes down to driver skills with G35 vs. Max.
G35 = more torque, RWD, 1 more gear and 5 more HP.
A lot of people might not believe this but with a FWD car you have more weight over the drive wheels like the transaxle and engine which result in improved traction which also mean less wheel spin (if You know how to drive). Remember Traction is the amount of force the tires have on the road. So less weight = less traction. So on a nice dry road a RWD car might have more wheel spin due to less weight over the wheels that works. But because weight transfers to the back under acceleration some of that missing weight is made up for. The reason Maximas perform so well on straights and car like the BWM 3 series enjoy the twisties are because RWD car are better when it comes to accelerating out of corners because of lateral traction or is it lateral grip?
So to sum it up a Max is like 65/35 (let me know if I am wrong) a BMW 3 is like 50/50. When the Max accelerates a percentage of that 65 is moved to the back, which gives us a ratio closer to 56/44. So with most of the weight still up front over the drive wheels we should still get just as good of a launch as a RWD car if the troque steer doesn't kill us.
I would think by now we would stop saying "well it is a RWD car". Yes RWD car are known for there better handling but it all comes down to driver skills with G35 vs. Max.
G35 = more torque, RWD, 1 more gear and 5 more HP.
A lot of people might not believe this but with a FWD car you have more weight over the drive wheels like the transaxle and engine which result in improved traction which also mean less wheel spin (if You know how to drive). Remember Traction is the amount of force the tires have on the road. So less weight = less traction. So on a nice dry road a RWD car might have more wheel spin due to less weight over the wheels that works. But because weight transfers to the back under acceleration some of that missing weight is made up for. The reason Maximas perform so well on straights and car like the BWM 3 series enjoy the twisties are because RWD car are better when it comes to accelerating out of corners because of lateral traction or is it lateral grip?
So to sum it up a Max is like 65/35 (let me know if I am wrong) a BMW 3 is like 50/50. When the Max accelerates a percentage of that 65 is moved to the back, which gives us a ratio closer to 56/44. So with most of the weight still up front over the drive wheels we should still get just as good of a launch as a RWD car if the troque steer doesn't kill us.
10-31-2002, 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by Dany
Well this is your opinion, but I raced Auto 2002 Maxima and 2002 3.5 Altima Auto and by 80mph I had about 3-4 cars on them.
I don't understand why you saying that G35 will beat 6-speed so easily.
Well this is your opinion, but I raced Auto 2002 Maxima and 2002 3.5 Altima Auto and by 80mph I had about 3-4 cars on them.
I don't understand why you saying that G35 will beat 6-speed so easily.
10-31-2002, 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by nice95GLE
RE:With RWD and auto my money is on the G35 for consistanly beating a 6spd Max on the street.
I would think by now we would stop saying "well it is a RWD car". Yes RWD car are known for there better handling but it all comes down to driver skills with G35 vs. Max.
G35 = more torque, RWD, 1 more gear and 5 more HP.
A lot of people might not believe this but with a FWD car you have more weight over the drive wheels like the transaxle and engine which result in improved traction which also mean less wheel spin (if You know how to drive). Remember Traction is the amount of force the tires have on the road. So less weight = less traction. So on a nice dry road a RWD car might have more wheel spin due to less weight over the wheels that works. But because weight transfers to the back under acceleration some of that missing weight is made up for. The reason Maximas perform so well on straights and car like the BWM 3 series enjoy the twisties are because RWD car are better when it comes to accelerating out of corners because of lateral traction or is it lateral grip?
So to sum it up a Max is like 65/35 (let me know if I am wrong) a BMW 3 is like 50/50. When the Max accelerates a percentage of that 65 is moved to the back, which gives us a ratio closer to 56/44. So with most of the weight still up front over the drive wheels we should still get just as good of a launch as a RWD car if the troque steer doesn't kill us.
RE:With RWD and auto my money is on the G35 for consistanly beating a 6spd Max on the street.
I would think by now we would stop saying "well it is a RWD car". Yes RWD car are known for there better handling but it all comes down to driver skills with G35 vs. Max.
G35 = more torque, RWD, 1 more gear and 5 more HP.
A lot of people might not believe this but with a FWD car you have more weight over the drive wheels like the transaxle and engine which result in improved traction which also mean less wheel spin (if You know how to drive). Remember Traction is the amount of force the tires have on the road. So less weight = less traction. So on a nice dry road a RWD car might have more wheel spin due to less weight over the wheels that works. But because weight transfers to the back under acceleration some of that missing weight is made up for. The reason Maximas perform so well on straights and car like the BWM 3 series enjoy the twisties are because RWD car are better when it comes to accelerating out of corners because of lateral traction or is it lateral grip?
So to sum it up a Max is like 65/35 (let me know if I am wrong) a BMW 3 is like 50/50. When the Max accelerates a percentage of that 65 is moved to the back, which gives us a ratio closer to 56/44. So with most of the weight still up front over the drive wheels we should still get just as good of a launch as a RWD car if the troque steer doesn't kill us.
10-31-2002, 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by nice95GLE
RE:With RWD and auto my money is on the G35 for consistanly beating a 6spd Max on the street.
I would think by now we would stop saying "well it is a RWD car". Yes RWD car are known for there better handling but it all comes down to driver skills with G35 vs. Max.
G35 = more torque, RWD, 1 more gear and 5 more HP.
A lot of people might not believe this but with a FWD car you have more weight over the drive wheels like the transaxle and engine which result in improved traction which also mean less wheel spin (if You know how to drive). Remember Traction is the amount of force the tires have on the road. So less weight = less traction. So on a nice dry road a RWD car might have more wheel spin due to less weight over the wheels that works. But because weight transfers to the back under acceleration some of that missing weight is made up for. The reason Maximas perform so well on straights and car like the BWM 3 series enjoy the twisties are because RWD car are better when it comes to accelerating out of corners because of lateral traction or is it lateral grip?
So to sum it up a Max is like 65/35 (let me know if I am wrong) a BMW 3 is like 50/50. When the Max accelerates a percentage of that 65 is moved to the back, which gives us a ratio closer to 56/44. So with most of the weight still up front over the drive wheels we should still get just as good of a launch as a RWD car if the troque steer doesn't kill us.
RE:With RWD and auto my money is on the G35 for consistanly beating a 6spd Max on the street.
I would think by now we would stop saying "well it is a RWD car". Yes RWD car are known for there better handling but it all comes down to driver skills with G35 vs. Max.
G35 = more torque, RWD, 1 more gear and 5 more HP.
A lot of people might not believe this but with a FWD car you have more weight over the drive wheels like the transaxle and engine which result in improved traction which also mean less wheel spin (if You know how to drive). Remember Traction is the amount of force the tires have on the road. So less weight = less traction. So on a nice dry road a RWD car might have more wheel spin due to less weight over the wheels that works. But because weight transfers to the back under acceleration some of that missing weight is made up for. The reason Maximas perform so well on straights and car like the BWM 3 series enjoy the twisties are because RWD car are better when it comes to accelerating out of corners because of lateral traction or is it lateral grip?
So to sum it up a Max is like 65/35 (let me know if I am wrong) a BMW 3 is like 50/50. When the Max accelerates a percentage of that 65 is moved to the back, which gives us a ratio closer to 56/44. So with most of the weight still up front over the drive wheels we should still get just as good of a launch as a RWD car if the troque steer doesn't kill us.
What are the dyno numbers for G35 sedan?
I bet the torque is just the same as what 6-speed Max gets.
10-31-2002, 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by Kuhmo D
Did they know they were racing beforehand? Were these from a dead stop no rolls? Did they launch or wait for you to hit it first. So many variables in street racing.... 4 cars to 80mph stock vs stock? No way that would happen at the track with similar r/t and good launches! I bet a G35 would beat you to 80mph 9 out of 10 times on the street from a dead stop assuming he launches properly and both cars are stock.
Did they know they were racing beforehand? Were these from a dead stop no rolls? Did they launch or wait for you to hit it first. So many variables in street racing.... 4 cars to 80mph stock vs stock? No way that would happen at the track with similar r/t and good launches! I bet a G35 would beat you to 80mph 9 out of 10 times on the street from a dead stop assuming he launches properly and both cars are stock.
Yes, they were racing and it was from dead stop. I actually waited for the other guy to start first.
I just don't understand what not to understand here. They were Auto, I have 6-speed, hmmmmm
I think I will beat G35 sedan 10 out of 10 times.
10-31-2002, 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by Dany
I love this question: "Did they know they were racing beforehand?" Yes I called them and asked them. What a retarted question.
Yes, they were racing and it was from dead stop. I actually waited for the other guy to start first.
I just don't understand what not to understand here. They were Auto, I have 6-speed, hmmmmm
I think I will beat G35 sedan 10 out of 10 times.
I love this question: "Did they know they were racing beforehand?" Yes I called them and asked them. What a retarted question.
Yes, they were racing and it was from dead stop. I actually waited for the other guy to start first.
I just don't understand what not to understand here. They were Auto, I have 6-speed, hmmmmm
I think I will beat G35 sedan 10 out of 10 times.
10-31-2002, 06:52 PM
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Originally posted by jjs
Interesting analysis, however you must remember that weight transfer is a fact of physics and ALL vehicles will experience it. That having been said the 50/50 of (as in your example) a 3 series now become more of a 40/60 so even MORE of the traction advantage is given to the RWD vehicle.
Interesting analysis, however you must remember that weight transfer is a fact of physics and ALL vehicles will experience it. That having been said the 50/50 of (as in your example) a 3 series now become more of a 40/60 so even MORE of the traction advantage is given to the RWD vehicle.
10-31-2002, 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by Dany
I love this question: "Did they know they were racing beforehand?" Yes I called them and asked them. What a retarted question.
Yes, they were racing and it was from dead stop. I actually waited for the other guy to start first.
I just don't understand what not to understand here. They were Auto, I have 6-speed, hmmmmm
I think I will beat G35 sedan 10 out of 10 times.
I love this question: "Did they know they were racing beforehand?" Yes I called them and asked them. What a retarted question.
Yes, they were racing and it was from dead stop. I actually waited for the other guy to start first.
I just don't understand what not to understand here. They were Auto, I have 6-speed, hmmmmm
I think I will beat G35 sedan 10 out of 10 times.
On the street you'll lose if you're stock, the G35 really jumps out from a stop. After a solid test drive I was a believer, and I think you would be too.
Even with your modest bolt-ons I think you would have a hard time. I run a 2k2 auto with Injen, and the G35 just had this solid road grip to it; this bite I just don't have (even with a lowered suspension). It's been too long since I test drove the 6-speed maximas but I wasn't too impressed at the time with the differences or I wouldn't have gone auto.
That and there were none with HLSD on the lot.Not to mention the G35 didn't have Craptenza RE92s on it. Those are certainly not helping us much from the stoplight. Go to the dealer sometime, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised; even with the automatic.
10-31-2002, 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by soopermax02
The 2k2 auto's don't have the big gap you think they do. They are running times better than some 6-speeds that had a bad day; i.e. 14.6.
On the street you'll lose if you're stock, the G35 really jumps out from a stop. After a solid test drive I was a believer, and I think you would be too.
Even with your modest bolt-ons I think you would have a hard time. I run a 2k2 auto with Injen, and the G35 just had this solid road grip to it; this bite I just don't have (even with a lowered suspension). It's been too long since I test drove the 6-speed maximas but I wasn't too impressed at the time with the differences or I wouldn't have gone auto. That and there were none with HLSD on the lot.
Not to mention the G35 didn't have Craptenza RE92s on it. Those are certainly not helping us much from the stoplight. Go to the dealer sometime, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised; even with the automatic.
The 2k2 auto's don't have the big gap you think they do. They are running times better than some 6-speeds that had a bad day; i.e. 14.6.
On the street you'll lose if you're stock, the G35 really jumps out from a stop. After a solid test drive I was a believer, and I think you would be too.
Even with your modest bolt-ons I think you would have a hard time. I run a 2k2 auto with Injen, and the G35 just had this solid road grip to it; this bite I just don't have (even with a lowered suspension). It's been too long since I test drove the 6-speed maximas but I wasn't too impressed at the time with the differences or I wouldn't have gone auto.
That and there were none with HLSD on the lot.Not to mention the G35 didn't have Craptenza RE92s on it. Those are certainly not helping us much from the stoplight. Go to the dealer sometime, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised; even with the automatic.
10-31-2002, 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by jjames
*** Nissan Maxima: $25,000
*** Mods: $500.00
*** Misspelling the word retarded on an internet message board where millions can read it: PRICELESS.
*** Nissan Maxima: $25,000
*** Mods: $500.00
*** Misspelling the word retarded on an internet message board where millions can read it: PRICELESS.
That was pretty funny.G35 is an excellent car much better than a 6spd Max and worth the extra money IMO.
10-31-2002, 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by Kuhmo D
That was pretty funny.
G35 is an excellent car much better than a 6spd Max and worth the extra money IMO.
That was pretty funny.G35 is an excellent car much better than a 6spd Max and worth the extra money IMO.
10-31-2002, 09:49 PM
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*** I agree. I love the G35. I, and I assume many others, really hope they make the sedan in a 6 speed manny. Sweet car.
*** I agree. I love the G35. I, and I assume many others, really hope they make the sedan in a 6 speed manny. Sweet car.
As far as the run against the 3.5 Alty, I had a run in tonight with both a 3.5 Alty and Ack Type S at the same time. Not much to talk about. Some short accelerations from a roll. No biggie. Close it was though, but then I have a bad habit of not pushing my car to redline in each gear nor taking acceleration flexing too seriously.
For some reason, and maybe its just me, when I'm having some spirit fun with the max I have previously redlined this car more than any other car I ever owned. It just seems to climb to redline so smooth and quickly that before you know it...rev limiter. So I'm a little gun shy at times. I hate the bogging down feeling that results.
