Has anyone thought to take this HP issue up with the investigative reporting shows, like Dateline or Prime Time or 60 Minutes or some agency capable of doing all the testing if, indeed, there is a legitimate concern (e.g. false advertising with the extra 15 HP and the absolutely, overwhelmingly horrible customer service (not speaking from experience, just what everyone else says here)). I don't think it would hurt to ask. Sending them an email with most or all of the evidence put together in a package that easy for them to follow the trail. I don't know, it seems as though this should be an obvious choice. The channel being used and the number of people being reached, not to mention the look on their face when John Hockenberry goes to the door of NCA Director! What do you guys think? I would love to see this thing come to fruition, but I don't have the data.

oz

 

Yeah if someone does it mention the great paint they put on these cars. Well actually I think they show how great the paint is on that commercial where the MAX is going fast and the paint comes off. That is so close to the truth it is scary.

 

That's a hell of an idea. I think that would offset a lot of the cost too, if someone else did some of the legwork (IE Dateline, etc), and I think Nissan would take it a lot more seriously.

 

Once you do that then no one would consider buying a Max - including YOUR Max next time you decide to sell. The resale value on your cars will be even more in the toilet than it currently is.

You are damned if you do and damned if you don't.

 

I don't think you have a chance in he!! of getting on one of those shows. I mean come on guys your talking about maybe 15hp. You have a better shot if you are really reved up about this to go to the Better Business Beauru (I can't spell) or another consumer group. A major network is just gonna laugh at you unless you come in great numbers (1000's) or a few people die because their cars don't have that extra 15hp. I'm not trying to be harsh here but come on lets get real.

 

And who wants to p!ss off a major sponsor that pays for these shows in the first place.

That is not just biting a hand that feeds you - it is complete disembowelment.

 

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"I mean come on guys your talking about maybe 15hp."

How far off was the power point on the Cobras that got recalled for power problems? Wasn't it like 10hp or so? What about the Miatas that got recalled? I think it was the same deal.

If this is an actual issue then it needs to be documented and proven by the owners before Nissan will do something. I suggest that as many people as possible without mods (including an air filter...you need everything 100% stock) get their cars dynoed and see how consistent the output of the 3.5 is. It would help if some Altima 3.5 owners would get in on this to help their Maxima brethren.

 

You are 100% right there. The only way this is going to work is that you get dynos from both of these cars stock. YES BOTH CARS. Since your case is about BS 15hp, then you need to get them both dynoed. Preferably autos since I think the tranns are similar, the manuals are different since one is a 5spd and one is a 6spd.

Lets say you get consistent dynos where the two 3.5 autos are the same HP, then yall got a case, also if the altima comes up more in HP, then you have an even better case.

Only way i can see a legitament case.

Dixit

 

I really don't think that many people outside this forum really care about htis problem. So it is highly unlikely that Dateline, or any other national news program will pick it up. You have a much better chance of getting Car and Driver, Motortrend, etc. to take up this issue. Your best bet might actually be Consumer reports. After all they were the ones that started the whole SUV roll over thing. Actually, if this was any way safety related, they would be all over it.

 

I was going to say the same thing about the resale value issue. Something like this would hurt Nissan as a whole, and the Maxima in particular.

That being said, I plan to keep my car for quite a few years. Also, I would like to get what I paid for.

My vote is to follow through with this!

 

you guys sure complain alot about something you claim to care so much about the max is like a good woman sure there will be things you dont like about her but if the ride is good way not look past the problems.

 

that's exactly what i'm pushing for stock auto to auto dynoes and i've enlisted our altima brothers for help and specified that i would prefer automatic dynoes
http://www.altimas.net/forum/showthr...threadid=69400

thanks for the insight though.

 

There are tons of baseline dyno's over at altima.net. Just do a search over there. I'll dyno mine as soon as someone gives me the $$$

 

The Cobra was recalled for much much more than 10 HP. Many of those guys were putting down 230HP at the wheel rather than the 280 or so that it should have been (320 crank HP advertised).

 

I 100% agree, I said it earlier here and the other post. It's not a big deal to that other 99% of Maxima owners.

 

ya i dont' think dateline will get involved but it's something that definetly should be pursued and nissan should have to do something.

 

15HP isn't a big deal, but when you purchase something that is NOT as advertised you have a case on your hands.

 

15hp is a decent amount most of us spend hundreds of dollars trying to get every last hp out of our cars, but the misrepresentation is bigger you are correct.