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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 02:41 PM
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Interesting run-in w/ a Z-28 today

I was coming home from McDonalds earlier today, and I got stopped at a red light on one of the main highways here. A guy and his girlfriend/wife were behind me in a mid-'90's Z-28 (white car, black pillars and roof... and Z-28 badges). There were absolutely no other cars on the road, and he made a blatant move to pull out from behind and move next to me at the light. The Z had a big-a$$ car club sticker on the front window, 17" or 18" chromies, and a loud-as-hell exhaust on it, so, right away, I'm thinking he's probably gonna take off from the light. Well, I checked all of my mirrors, all of the nearby parking lots... everywhere, and not another soul in sight. So, I decide I'm not going to floor it from the light, but I'm going to pull away strongly and see what he does. Well, the light turns green, and I pull away from the light, autotragic in 2. Obviously, I had underestimated this guy's intentions, because he barks tires and takes off from the light in full-on race mode. Well, he pulls about a car and a half on me, as I'm now flooring it. Here's where it got interesting... he obviously hole-shotted me, but I reeled him back in with ease, all the way to about 75 mph, where we both decided to shut it down (55 zone). When we shut it down, my front bumper was right at his sideview mirror. He kind of looked over in astonishment, as I'm sure he was expecting to see me fading away in his rearview, but instead, saw me moving up on him QUICKLY. I'm 99% sure he was an auto, but so am I. I'm sure the heavy wheels didn't help him much either, but I never expected to be able to pull on him at that low of speeds. Maybe he had 1000 lbs of stereo in the back!

Can't chalk it up as a kill, but I think it was a successful hunt anyway!

I think those mid-'90's Z's were rated at 275hp. Anyone ever seen a dyno slip on one?
Old Nov 24, 2002 | 04:53 PM
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That Z had to be sick
Old Nov 24, 2002 | 05:12 PM
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z = Nissan


depends on the camaro. if it was a LT1, it's a high high 13sec car. most people run low 14s with them though

if it was a tpi... high 14s, low 15s.

if it was a LS1. he was messing with ya.
Old Nov 25, 2002 | 04:00 AM
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No Z ='s a lot of cars...Nissan does not have the market cornered on that. BMW has a **** load...GM has several...ie. Z28,Z54,Z06,Z24
Old Nov 25, 2002 | 06:44 AM
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I used to own a 97 Z28 Camaro with a 6 speed. I took it to the track one time and managed a 13.97 et. A bit more than a stock Maxima. Maybe this was one of the older Z28's with that weak 305 engine.

Like Driven EF9 said, if it was a 98 or newer (LS1) he was really just messing with you. Those run 13.0's with traction.

You did pull on him so good kill!
Old Nov 25, 2002 | 09:13 AM
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Probably Sick of Messin w/ Ya

I recently traded in my 01' Camaro SS for my Max. It was too expensive for as much time as it spent in the shop. Not to mention, it was coming up on 30K which is usually when things start falling apart on Camaros/Stangs. Although I like driving the Maxima much more on a daily basis, there is no substitute for the power and speed of the LS1 engine. Talk about bang for your buck. It took me about a two months to feel comfortable driving that thing. It was scary fast for a stock car. I am not sure what year you were up against. But i can assure you that his car was either totally ragged out, or, he was screwin with you. Especially if you are pre-02 Max. I used to walk all over Mustangs with no problem. Nevertheless, I am much happier with my Max than I was with my SS. But if I could have a weekend warrior, I would seriously consider a Z28/SS. F-A-S-T!
Old Nov 25, 2002 | 09:25 AM
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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by mike1g
I recently traded in my 01' Camaro SS for my Max. It was too expensive for as much time as it spent in the shop. Not to mention, it was coming up on 30K which is usually when things start falling apart on Camaros/Stangs. Although I like driving the Maxima much more on a daily basis, there is no substitute for the power and speed of the LS1 engine. Talk about bang for your buck. It took me about a two months to feel comfortable driving that thing. It was scary fast for a stock car. I am not sure what year you were up against. But i can assure you that his car was either totally ragged out, or, he was screwin with you. Especially if you are pre-02 Max. I used to walk all over Mustangs with no problem. Nevertheless, I am much happier with my Max than I was with my SS. But if I could have a weekend warrior, I would seriously consider a Z28/SS. F-A-S-T!
I think there are a lot of former F-Body owners on here. I had a 98 Formula 6 Speed. It dyno'd at 292 at the wheel stock, it was soooo under rated.

If it had a black top and pillars than it was a 93+ with the 275Hp LT1 motor. They were a very high 13's to mid 14's car. The auto's on those cars are good though. The auto hits nearly the same times at the track as a stick. Infact just change the torque converter on an auto (LS1 motor) and you could be in the high 12's with no other mods. That guy either has something very wrong with his car or he was just toying with you.
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The obvious conclusion is that the "girlfriend/wife" was a cow.
Old Nov 25, 2002 | 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by ru4real
The obvious conclusion is that the "girlfriend/wife" was a cow.


Actually, she was pretty hot!

To follow up... I saw the car again today. It was in the car audio bay at Circuit City while I was talking to a friend who works there. Get this... the car belongs to the GIRL! It is a '93 (checked out the work order!!!) automatic, and it has two big subs and a heavy-azz box under the rear hatch. The stereo setup looked nice, but I imagine it's heavy. Hmmm, I guess between the LT-1, the auto, the heavy rims, and the stereo, I just found a Z-28 slow enough for me to beat!!! Guess her man shouldn't be out tryin' to race everything in town.
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The auto tranny in those cars is actually pretty good when compared to the manual. And also, don't underestimate the LT1

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Actually, she was pretty hot!

To follow up... I saw the car again today. It was in the car audio bay at Circuit City while I was talking to a friend who works there. Get this... the car belongs to the GIRL! It is a '93 (checked out the work order!!!) automatic, and it has two big subs and a heavy-azz box under the rear hatch. The stereo setup looked nice, but I imagine it's heavy. Hmmm, I guess between the LT-1, the auto, the heavy rims, and the stereo, I just found a Z-28 slow enough for me to beat!!! Guess her man shouldn't be out tryin' to race everything in town.
Old Nov 25, 2002 | 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by SG01MaxSE



Actually, she was pretty hot!

To follow up... I saw the car again today. It was in the car audio bay at Circuit City while I was talking to a friend who works there. Get this... the car belongs to the GIRL! It is a '93 (checked out the work order!!!) automatic, and it has two big subs and a heavy-azz box under the rear hatch. The stereo setup looked nice, but I imagine it's heavy. Hmmm, I guess between the LT-1, the auto, the heavy rims, and the stereo, I just found a Z-28 slow enough for me to beat!!! Guess her man shouldn't be out tryin' to race everything in town.
With all that crap, it's probubly a mid-high 14 second car with two people in it. A 2k Automatic Maxim is still a mid-high 15 second car though. The only conclusion is that the slowmaro's engine wasn't running healthy...that and you said you had it in second right? So you were right in the power band and took right off whereas he had to wait for the auto to downshift.

Old Nov 25, 2002 | 06:29 PM
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No Z ='s a lot of cars...Nissan does not have the market cornered on that. BMW has a **** load...GM has several...ie. Z28,Z54,Z06,Z24
I'm afraid I have to agree with Driven EF9...

Z = NISSAN

Always has, always will.

As far as this goes. It could have been an LS1 with a driver who doesn't know his a$$ from a hole in the wall, but I'm betting on a badged up V6 w/exhaust...especially if the guy busted you up off the line and you still pulled on him before 75mph.
Old Nov 25, 2002 | 06:37 PM
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i have this video clip of a SC Maxima racing a Camaro SS. i forgot what the year was for the max, but its a 5 spd. and that camaro just walked the max like it was nothing.i think the camaro redline is 5700 rpm? correct me if im wrong, but i think auto gives you the same output as having a stick.

P.S. nice run with the SS. im sorrie but her bf doesn't know how to drive, i bet she can drive better than him.. hehe
Old Nov 25, 2002 | 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by SG01MaxSE



Actually, she was pretty hot!

To follow up... I saw the car again today. It was in the car audio bay at Circuit City while I was talking to a friend who works there. Get this... the car belongs to the GIRL! It is a '93 (checked out the work order!!!) automatic, and it has two big subs and a heavy-azz box under the rear hatch. The stereo setup looked nice, but I imagine it's heavy. Hmmm, I guess between the LT-1, the auto, the heavy rims, and the stereo, I just found a Z-28 slow enough for me to beat!!! Guess her man shouldn't be out tryin' to race everything in town.

I don't think the LT-1 motor came out until 1997. LT-1 equiped camaro's are good for low 13's stock.
Old Nov 25, 2002 | 10:35 PM
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The LT1 been around for a while now. 93-97 Z28, 94-96 Impala SS, and early-mid 90s vettes. The LS1 replaced it with the new vettes in 97, and than the Z28 in 98. While the LS1 is a better engine than its predeseccor(sp?) people on some of the f-body forums say the LT1 has a slightly better low end.
Old Nov 25, 2002 | 10:49 PM
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Originally posted by Burton069
The LT1 been around for a while now. 93-97 Z28, 94-96 Impala SS, and early-mid 90s vettes. The LS1 replaced it with the new vettes in 97, and than the Z28 in 98. While the LS1 is a better engine than its predeseccor(sp?) people on some of the f-body forums say the LT1 has a slightly better low end.

Ooops, I guess I confused the LT1 with the LS1, my bad
Old Nov 25, 2002 | 10:53 PM
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I'm afraid I have to agree with Driven EF9...

Z = NISSAN

Always has, always will.

I believe the Z28 was out before the 240Z. A lot of cars are Z's, such as Z3, Z8, Z28 etc. Chevy was the first to bring out the "Z" cars if memory serves me correct.
Old Nov 26, 2002 | 05:31 AM
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I believe the Z28 was out before the 240Z. A lot of cars are Z's, such as Z3, Z8, Z28 etc. Chevy was the first to bring out the "Z" cars if memory serves me correct.
You would be correct in believing that. First Chevy Camaro arrived in 1967. First Datsun Z in 1970. That being said, I still think of 280/300Z when someone says "Z".
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Ooops, I guess I confused the LT1 with the LS1, my bad
emax, any plans for some more modding over the winter?
Old Dec 4, 2002 | 05:51 PM
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emax, any plans for some more modding over the winter?

Going turbo soon
Old Dec 4, 2002 | 08:20 PM
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Definitely sounds like an LT-1 Z-28 to me. All of the 4th Gen. F-Bodies (93-02) are high 13 second capable automatic or 6-speed, the LS-1s would be hard pressed NOT to run a mid 13 stock. With all of that stereo stuff and extra unsprung weight of big, heavy wheels he might have been in the high 14 range though. Good run for you.

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Ooops, I guess I confused the LT1 with the LS1, my bad
puhahahaha Emax---> <--- members of .org

Originally posted by emax95
Going turbo soon
members of .org ---> <---emax
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Originally posted by BioMaxDDS
puhahahaha Emax---> <--- members of .org

members of .org ---> <---emax

Old Dec 4, 2002 | 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by mike1g


You would be correct in believing that. First Chevy Camaro arrived in 1967. First Datsun Z in 1970. That being said, I still think of 280/300Z when someone says "Z".
er, yeah... especially on maxima.org... i think Z has to mean nissan Z

just like how here, maxima means a kick-a$$ sport sedan, wheras in Argentina, maxima is a consulting firm (check out maxima.com).

local definitions override global ones - as any good perl programmer knows!
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Originally posted by MAX2000JP


I believe the Z28 was out before the 240Z. A lot of cars are Z's, such as Z3, Z8, Z28 etc. Chevy was the first to bring out the "Z" cars if memory serves me correct.
Next time when you are talking cars with your buddies, drop this line. "Yeah, I saw a really cool Z-car the other day." $50 says that your buddies will think you mean a Nissan. Sure, Nissan doesn't have "Z" trade marked or copyrighted. However, the vast majority of the motoring public associates the Z with Nissan. So unless you want to continue to look silly...
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