Can anybody answer this?

Hey, wasn't this thread about the Aqua-cooled Supercharger?

I think this thread has been JACKED.

 

Doesn't that simply mean that the supercharger is cooled by water? I'm hardly an expert on FI, but I know the 911TT was switched from an intercooler to an aqua-cooled turbo, which just means that the cooling system is changed (uses water instead of air I guess).

If I totally give the wrong info here, my bad!

 

If i remember it correctly, that's almost the same as an Air-Liquid intercooler. I have to dig up Steve Belanger's response, as soon as i find it i'll post the right answer (unless someone posts it first).

By the way, the stuff is set to debut around Feb/March. However, Steve hasn't replied to my recent inquiry on the status of these systems. The moment i do, i'll let you guys know.

 

I know you're not serious about that question and BTW us 2k/2k1 guys are not greedy, we just want our piece of the pie, weezy! HAHAHA

 

All the 911 line used to have air cooled motors. In the recent years they went to liquid cooled engines.

 

The 02-03 Altima guys are trying to get the Quiaffe thing going. They have a list for the auto and manual. Their 5 speed and our 6 speed diff, won't be compatible but wouldn't the auto Quaiffe be the same for both cars?

 

Dang...I've been on and off the forums because of schoolwork and I guess I missed everything. I would have jumped all over the Quaife diff for the auto if they offered it. I guessed I missed soundmikes thread for gauging intrest. And about the phatom grip...it seems kinda shady and not as reliable as Quaife. Nissans got like 10 cars using the VQ35, but this diff would only matter to autmatic Maxima/i35s and half of the Altimas.

This car just got out in 2k2, I guess patience helps, especially waiting for a supercharger =)

 

3.5L (V6) Nissan `02-`03 Altima/Maxima/`03 350Z/Infiniti G35/I35 Aqua-cooled Supercharger Kit


"We plan to start development of the 3.5L Aqua-cooled supercharger on a 350Z (has the lowest hood clearance) sometime near the end of February now. This kit will probably be using the Eaton MP90 (new 5th gen.) roots type blower, with the self contained aqua-cooler system, with the heat exchanger built in to the intake plenum (like our 2.7L Hyundai application). Running about only 5-lbs/psi of boost, we should be able to produce close to 60-hp gain at the wheels, hopefully without any ECU management (but can if needed)! As with the above application, we will develop a stage one, and possible stage two "official" upgrades once the kit has been CARB certified as well. If all goes as planned on this application, look for it's availability around the tail end of June, or early July `03."

-S. Belanger
-Alpine Developments

 

 

egads.

 

Any word on how the development of this is doing? As it sit's right now I want to get this SC setup..

 

ditto!!! BTW how you been man

 

Not bad, I will log onto AIM after sapranos is over

 

I'm still interested in the kit as well...wonder how the R and D is going.....

 

Got an email from Steve Belanger. Here's an excerpt:

"`02-`03 Altima / Sentra (SER & V-Spec) (2.5L-I4) Turbo w/Aqua-cooler Kit

(anticipate CARB certification)

While we are still going to develop an aqua-cooled turbo kit for this engine platform, we are in the final stages of negotiations with a company to manufacture this kit "private label" for them, and will not be able to offer this kit to the aftermarket ourselves. Unfortunately, we can not divulge any more information on this application until it is near completion, and have permission from our client to reveal who they are and details of this kit.

`02-`03 Altima / Maxima / `03 350Z / Infiniti G35 /I35 (3.5L-V6) Aqua-cooled Supercharger Kit

(anticipate CARB certification)

Like the above application, this kit will be developed for the same company to sell "private label", and we will not be offering this application to the aftermarket ourselves. As with the above kit, we can not divulge any more information on this application until near completion, and have permission from our client to reveal who they are and the details of this kit."

*sigh* Looks like another delay...

 

We do gain some info from this.
1) The project is still alive
2) Inclusion of middle man means we are going to have to pay more for it.

Questions:
1) Who is the middle man, Nismo, Stillen, etc.?
2) How much will they add to the price?
3) Why the secrecy?
4) Again, how long until someone actually gets it into their hands? I, for one, am tired of delays.

 

IIRC, there were rumors that Nismo themselves may be outsourcing the manufacturing of these systems to Alpine. So there's a chance that Steve is talking about Nismo.

Though don't quote me on that.

 

Well just to clear one thing up... it's not me.

 

i agree, to me it sounds like NISMO or Stillen has gotten involved. so to those who laughed at us VQ30 guy for the Stillen SC kit it looks like you are now in the same boat as us.

 

I just got the same email. I'm dissappointed to say least. I figure add a year and $1000 to the original info.

 

Stillen is not the "private label"

Here's the email I got.

Joe:

I can't tell you the client is, but I CAN tell you it isn't Stillen! (They
went to one of our competitors, and was designed an Eaton s/c kit that you
have to cut a hole in the hood for!)

Stephen M. Belanger
Sales & Marketing
S.A. Alpine Developments, Inc.
7581 Acacia Avenue
Garden Grove, Ca. 92841
Ph. (714) 379-8066
Fx. (714) 379-8166
sbelanger@alpine-developments.us
www.alpine-developments.co.za

 

Same email here too.
Yup the cost will most likely be $4000-4500 now and we'll be lucky to see them by next spring. If it's NISMO I'd be suprised as the talk about them doing something in the U.S. has gone on for over a year and still nothing. I almost hope it's not them as we'd probibly not see it till the 7th gen comes out and $tillen...


"`00-`03 Frontier / X-Terra (3.3L-V6) Supercharger Kit

(anticipate CARB certification)

This kit is in the final stages of development, and anticipate if passing CARB, will include the limited "3-Year / 36,000 Power Train Warranty" and optional "extended power train warranty. As we get nearer to the availability date, will know what other year/model applications this should fit. This will still be offered by Alpine Developments.

Available: Late August.

New MSRP: $3000."

Based on this info we'd lucky if it is even next spring. They haven't even started developmet on ours yet...

No FA, no headers... well it gives me time to run my warranty out

 

I want a whipple.

 

Any other S/C systems in the works, besides the Stillen?? I was looking forward to this Alpine system, but I would agree that the addition of a "middle man" is going to add some time(warranty basis will probably need to be worked for a while). $3500.00 was about the limit I would pay for 60hp on this and 4500.00 is not going to work for me(may-be if it includes full install, tuning and a huge warranty for the entire drivetrain).

 

Nismo will be here and releasing their products soon. I know this because the middle man I usually deal with to get Nismo products just stopped carrying it and said I will be able to get it directly from Nismo soon.

 

I'm just to the point where I'm about to lose it and go out and buy a Z. The aftermarket for the Maxima is boring! Intake, exhuast, pulley....not even headers or an intake manifold...or even an ECU reprogram. Need something to break into LS1 territory. Plus those of us 3.5VQ owners who aren't running nitrous will soon be getting dusted by EVO, STi, and SRT owners with minimal modifications. Each month that goes buy we're sliding further and further towards the bottom of the food chain.

 

I'm as interested as the next guy in this SC or a turbo but I bought my car because it fit my needs and I'll be happy if I can add 60-100hp but I didn't buy it EXPECTING to be able to do that. Y

ou bought a 4-door sedan and are trying to turn it into a car it's not. Buy a Z. If you wanted a car you could mod, why'd you get a Maxima in the first place?

 

I can't tell you the client is, but I CAN tell you it isn't Stillen! (They
went to one of our competitors, and was designed an Eaton s/c kit that you
have to cut a hole in the hood for!)

 

Grave digging in light of recent S/C post...

 

sweeeeeet, I'm very interested

 

You have hotshot headers and stillen is coming out with a ecu upgrade box. If you wanted aftermarket get a civic.

 

Dammit, last year I had the $$ and the second car,
as I emailed Alpine several times....hope this project is still alive somehow.....

 

Yes, please keep us informed and to my man Blu:
I am not dreaming here put me first on the list and I will even pre pay . Please keep us informed Matt

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Damn, as if you need it >

But it will be pretty sick to see what you'd do with an SC.

 

hmm... they are located in garden grove, thats not too far from me.

 

I doubt this will ever happen...

 

wow, how did i miss this? What is the update on this guys?

 

start new thread... this one is dead...